Millennials would rather live in socialist or communist nation than under capitalism: Poll

[Dashinka 23,246]

1 hour ago, smilesammich said:

i know a few people from denmark myself, so basically i have my own anecdotes. the assumption that i frame my world view based on media projection is insulting.

Interesting that you are not sharing their anecdotal stories.  Do they say the same thing?

[charmander 692]

7 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Why do so many foreign students come to the US and pay for their university education?

Because their families are rich?

 

I did my undergrad virtually for free back home, then came to US for grad school with full scholarship. If I didn't have that opportunity, I could not have afforded to study in US.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, IDWAF said:

Dark socialist overlords in CA?    (I took it as sarcastic, based on some of your other replies in the past hour.  Forgive me if I read it wrong).

 

It’s not odd to presume... he or she lives here and is making money now.  That means they made money in Canada in the past.  For most people, we make more money today than we did in the past (at least one would hope to improve in that arena).

of course i was being sarcastic. how is that worse than seriously referring to someone's home country as 'commie' and telling them to go back?

 

does it matter if they are making more money here, if they are telling you they paid less taxes in canada?

[Dashinka 23,246]

48 minutes ago, NikLR said:

captialism - where the rich get richer and the middle class becomes the poor.  the poor become the beggars and the beggars die due to a cold. 

So Socialism/Communism is better where they just have three classes, the elite leaders with all the power, the poor masses, and those that are killed off by the government for speaking out?

[smilesammich 10,727]

3 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Interesting that you are not sharing their anecdotal stories.  Do they say the same thing?

why would i do that?

[Dashinka 23,246]

30 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

So did I.  And your response was on-target.  I have never lived in Canada, only visited, but I think their taxes are a bit high for my liking.  The “free health care” isn’t really free at all.

At least it doesn’t cost anything to wait in line.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

6 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

 

does it matter if they are making more money here, if they are telling you they paid less taxes in canada?

Well, yes, it actually does.  If I used to make $10,000, and paid $1,000 in taxes, but now make $100,000, and owe $10,000 in taxes, my taxes are higher now than they used to be.  But surely you can see how I don’t really pay any more taxes today than I used to?

[Dashinka 23,246]

10 minutes ago, charmander said:

Because their families are rich?

 

I did my undergrad virtually for free back home, then came to US for grad school with full scholarship. If I didn't have that opportunity, I could not have afforded to study in US.

I work with a lot of people that are foreign who came to the US for school, but did not come from rich families.  There is a reason they want to come to the US for secondary education, and though the US public school system may be poor, the secondary education system is definitely desirable to many people around the world.

[smilesammich 10,727]

4 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

Well, yes, it actually does.  If I used to make $10,000, and paid $1,000 in taxes, but now make $100,000, and owe $10,000 in taxes, my taxes are higher now than they used to be.  But surely you can see how I don’t really pay any more taxes today than I used to?

so you asked how much they made now because you think they don't understand how they're not really paying any more in taxes than they did previously? must be lonely at the top.

[Dashinka 23,246]

8 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

why would i do that?

Because you are minimizing the report from a person from Denmark speaking out about their socialist paradise.  I am sure we can find some people from Venezuela to confirm this fact.  I have a wife that grew up under Communism where any information considered capitalist was considered as bad as child porn.  There is no perfect economic system out there, but I do know that monopolies are bad, and giving the government an economic monopoly is about the worst thing we can do.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

Because you are minimizing the report from a person from Denmark speaking out about their socialist paradise.  I am sure we can find some people from Venezuela to confirm this fact.  I have a wife that grew up under Communism where any information considered capitalist was considered as bad as child porn.  There is no perfect economic system out there, but I do know that monopolies are bad, and giving the government an economic monopoly is about the worst thing we can do.

basically you'll only accept anecdotes that fit your opinions. idwaf said he knew a guy from denmark that said it was terrible there. i simply said i know people from denmark too and they don't feel that way. how is that minimizing?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

6 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I work with a lot of people that are foreign who came to the US for school, but did not come from rich families.  There is a reason they want to come to the US for secondary education, and though the US public school system may be poor, the secondary education system is definitely desirable to many people around the world.

Likewise.  Some were rich, but the majority I knew were poor.  Lived in low income university housing like me.  Suffered what it took to get that higher education so that their families would not have to grow up poor like they did.  Living poor is a great motivator.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

basically you'll only accept anecdotes that fit your opinions. idwaf said he knew a guy from denmark that said it was terrible there. i simply said i know people from denmark too and they don't feel that way. how is that minimizing?

Ask the people you know why they are here, if life there is so good.  I didn’t mean the countryitself is terrible; far from it, it’s a beautiful place to live.  Wages are on par with the US, but so many expenses are higher than here. Taxes are higher.  Utilities are about 50% higher than here.  A dozen eggs is over $4.

 

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Denmark/United-States/Cost-of-living

 

https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark/personal-income-tax-rate

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, IDWAF said:

Ask the people you know why they are here, if life there is so good.  I didn’t mean the countryitself is terrible; far from it, it’s a beautiful place to live.  Wages are on par with the US, but so many expenses are higher than here. Taxes are higher.  Utilities are about 50% higher than here.  A dozen eggs is over $4.

 

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Denmark/United-States/Cost-of-living

 

https://tradingeconomics.com/denmark/personal-income-tax-rate

they're not here actually. they live in denmark and visit the us periodically. i do know one american that lives in denmark, wishes it to be permanent but that's up in the air for the time being.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

10 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

they're not here actually. they live in denmark and visit the us periodically. i do know one american that lives in denmark, wishes it to be permanent but that's up in the air for the time being.

I plan to visit there one day, haven’t made it just yet.  Not familiar with the tax laws for expats, but it might be a viable place to live after retiring.