Mike B.

This post really chapped my hide, so my response will be much testier than normal.
I highly doubt this is some grand conspiracy to deny you. You didn't follow directions. Of course the USCIS is going to take your money. You sent them a package and asked them to complete work, which they did by reviewing it and recognizing that you failed to follow directions.
Wait for the letter in the mail, it may be an RFE after all. If it is a denial, well, serves you right for not following directions. You have no one to blame but yourselves. And the only people who should be posting with righteous indignation about this situation are the people whose cases were delayed by a few hours because someone wasted his or her time reviewing yours, which wasn't even complete.

You have to do what you feel is right in your heart no one can tell you to divorce or not. I would think very long and hard I wish I would have seen the signs when I first married my ex wife but I was blinded looks like you atleast have some sense of whats really going on.

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either answer the op's question without the judgmental comments or don't post at all. if you find it difficult to post without the judgmental comments or without hijacking the thread, vj moderation can assist you.

This is lawyer territory, pure and simple. Not a do it yourself case.

I live in Washington, DC. Here's The Washington Post's rental webpage, which is the one everyone here uses: http://www.apartmentshowcase.com
As you will see, there is not a single apartment for rent in this entire city for $600/month. Not even in the slummy parts of DC, which are among the most dangerous places in America. I'm not sure if you've rented an apartment in the past 50 years, but $600 in a major city would be an unbelievable steal. Hell, if I could find a studio for double that near a metro station I'd move out tomorrow if I had to to get it. I'm serious -- if you look at that page and find something, let me know.
Also, in order to save on transportation, I don't own a car and take the metro a grand total of three stops, which is about 10 minutes on the train. My commute costs me $90/month.
Anyway, this is exactly my point from my previous post: the costs of medical care (which you don't account for. Hope your hypothetical person never gets sick! Or, for that matter, audited, since you don't have him paying taxes) and rent have grown so incredibly over the years that the costs you have to assume to imagine that the poverty guidelines are correct is just totally divorced from the everyday reality of life in 2012.

I'm a bit confused. When did you apply for the green card? Why was it only received in February? Why did you apply for it before you were ready to live in America? What have you been using to visit the US if not the green card?

No offense, but you do understand that even being in a marriage with "some manipulative qualities" is absolutely awful, right? I mean, normal people don't try to "manipulate" theirs spouses at all. You seem to be setting the bar pretty damn low: "He's trying to manipulate me and separate me from my money, but only somewhat." It doesn't really work that way. Being manipulated into something is binary: either you're being manipulated or you're not.
I understand that you want to stay with the person you love, and honestly I don't know what I'd do if I were in your shoes. I'd like to think that I'd dump him immediately, but maybe I wouldn't. Love is a powerful thing. Still, you owe it to yourself to set the bar a lot higher than you are.

Nothing irks me more than seeing "CAN I SEND THEM BACK?" or some variation of this. I admit with all the fees you pay the immigration process can feel like modern day slave trade. Know what you want, know who you are, and know who you are marrying before you dive into visa waters. Yes, some of our significant others come from economically struggling countries and others whose countries fair far better than the US. Your spouse is not an expensive shirt that you tuck the tag in, wear for a night, and return the next day. My husband is fine where he is and it touches me to hear him pray for the betterment of his country and the people. Our spouses are perfectly capable of sustaining themselves in their home country. If you examine the circumstances the quality of life may be somewhat advanced in the US, but the quantity you pay is the same. Your spouse's life is changed as well as their family's. Some of them endure ridicule and negativity, because they married you and not a fellow countryman.

I find it amazing that on a site that celebrates cross-cultural ties in America we're even having this conversation.

FYI, I'm Indian, lived all my life in India, but speak, read, and write English, French, and Spanish, in addition to five Indian languages, so yeah sure, your story does hold up. The question to the OP was raised since he claims he's a "gora" and went to India for a short while, still manages to speak Hindi well, and his girlfriend's English is good but not good enough for him to understand!!! C'mon, who are we kidding? And while we're on this subject, why don't you take a peek at the OP's earlier postings? Perhaps that'll serve as an answer to the various theories you have!!!

Not really considering she pronounces words like "schedule" as "skaduul" and cannot pronounce the phonenems "th/dh" as in "health" and "the" but instead substitutes "t(h)/d(h)." etc. She also writes and says things like "here are my some photos." All very common and normal features of Indian English but not acceptable at all in our register. Thanks for your insulting question though.

OP: Never mind all these holier-than-thou people who are absolutely certain that they know what your intentions are better than you are. Also, I have absolutely no doubt that you are intelligent enough to immediately dismiss anyone who makes the argument "if you don't like every law that has even been passed in this country, you should leave" as what they are: fools. You simply cannot ever convince people who say stuff like that. Sorry, but it's true.
Yeah, it's going to be very difficult to get an F1. The best evidence you could give is evidence that truly is tied to India. As you correctly pointed out, money can be moved very quickly to the United States even when people cannot, as our bizarre and hypocritical policy is that free trade in every single commodity EXCEPT labor is good. Somehow free trade in labor is evil and would bring about the destruction of the Republic or something, so we have to tightly control immigration. As nonsensical as it is, that's the law, and immigration is an area where the government seems to hold all of the cards: USCIS is the only game in town, Congress will take absolutely forever to pass any kind of reform to the INA because people (like many on here) love to bask in the glory of being part of the collective and think things like "If I had to go through a lousy process, everyone should go through a lousy process," and quite frankly your Congressman/Senator/President/Etc. don't give a damn about your girlfriend because she can't vote and/or donate a million dollars to a reelection campaign. So yeah, it sucks, but you kinda have to get used to it. If your girlfriend owns a bunch of unmovable property such as real estate, has solid evidence that she is being sent to the US by a job that she will return to, can show that she absolutely cannot leave her family for whatever reason, or something like that, that would be much better evidence than a bank account loaded with money. Unfortunately, 1) it sounds like she may not have that stuff and 2) even if she did it is very, very far from guaranteed that she'd overcome an IO's suspicions.
Many people have told you that you should get a K-1 even though you say you have no intent to marry. Do not listen to them. If you truly have no intent on marrying this woman, it makes no sense to get a K-1. If you think you might want to do it but are not ready and simply want to spend more time with her but cannot get her to the US on some other visa, look for a different way to spend time with her. Maybe she could manage to go to a third country and you could visit her there. Or maybe instead of her practicing her English you might be interested in practicing your Hindi by spending some time in India. Perhaps a bilingual college-educated person such as yourself could even find a job in India.
If you do want to marry her, though, then get the K-1 (assuming you want to marry in the United States). I know the wait sounds really long, but at the end of the day it really isn't that bad. The emotional pain you will feel is like any other kind of pain: it hurts while you're feeling it but then as soon as it's over it is over. I'm sure you've been injured before. Even when you remember that injury, you can't truly experience the pain like you felt it then. Same goes with being apart for half a year. Yeah, it took eight whole months for me wife (then fiancee) to get her K-1 and come here. And it sucked at the time. But at the end of the day I get to spend the rest of my life with her and I'm with her pretty much every minute of my life that I'm not at work, so it's not like it bothers me that we were apart for so long anymore. You get over it the moment you see her at the airport.
Anyway, best of luck to you. I hope you find a way to be united with her.
I speak to my wife in Spanish and I am not Hispanic. Does my story hold up or do you think I'm lying?

Haha!! love it! and you were told to pack your bags and go back to 'your country', just because you disagree with the US politics, only to find out you are 'gora'. (and people telling you this were highly likely immigrants themselves at one point or another).
See the hypocrisy-- welcoming, accepting and celebrating diversity? and lack of tolerance on mere opinions, thoughts, ideas? Prejudice and discrimination based on person's country of origin?
I constantly see hateful and discouraging comments about immigration on this forum. 'Visa Journey-- Your US immigration Community'. [i'm trying to permanently delete my account-don't want to be a part of this].

Landlord tenant agreement, Utility payments, visas to other countries on passport etc are the sort of things that determine the ties (or lack thereof) to your home country.
If she is your fiance, I suggest you try the K-1 application process if you intend to get married if not and live in the Us. if not, then she can try again.
best of luck!

OP: Never mind all these holier-than-thou people who are absolutely certain that they know what your intentions are better than you are. Also, I have absolutely no doubt that you are intelligent enough to immediately dismiss anyone who makes the argument "if you don't like every law that has even been passed in this country, you should leave" as what they are: fools. You simply cannot ever convince people who say stuff like that. Sorry, but it's true.
Yeah, it's going to be very difficult to get an F1. The best evidence you could give is evidence that truly is tied to India. As you correctly pointed out, money can be moved very quickly to the United States even when people cannot, as our bizarre and hypocritical policy is that free trade in every single commodity EXCEPT labor is good. Somehow free trade in labor is evil and would bring about the destruction of the Republic or something, so we have to tightly control immigration. As nonsensical as it is, that's the law, and immigration is an area where the government seems to hold all of the cards: USCIS is the only game in town, Congress will take absolutely forever to pass any kind of reform to the INA because people (like many on here) love to bask in the glory of being part of the collective and think things like "If I had to go through a lousy process, everyone should go through a lousy process," and quite frankly your Congressman/Senator/President/Etc. don't give a damn about your girlfriend because she can't vote and/or donate a million dollars to a reelection campaign. So yeah, it sucks, but you kinda have to get used to it. If your girlfriend owns a bunch of unmovable property such as real estate, has solid evidence that she is being sent to the US by a job that she will return to, can show that she absolutely cannot leave her family for whatever reason, or something like that, that would be much better evidence than a bank account loaded with money. Unfortunately, 1) it sounds like she may not have that stuff and 2) even if she did it is very, very far from guaranteed that she'd overcome an IO's suspicions.
Many people have told you that you should get a K-1 even though you say you have no intent to marry. Do not listen to them. If you truly have no intent on marrying this woman, it makes no sense to get a K-1. If you think you might want to do it but are not ready and simply want to spend more time with her but cannot get her to the US on some other visa, look for a different way to spend time with her. Maybe she could manage to go to a third country and you could visit her there. Or maybe instead of her practicing her English you might be interested in practicing your Hindi by spending some time in India. Perhaps a bilingual college-educated person such as yourself could even find a job in India.
If you do want to marry her, though, then get the K-1 (assuming you want to marry in the United States). I know the wait sounds really long, but at the end of the day it really isn't that bad. The emotional pain you will feel is like any other kind of pain: it hurts while you're feeling it but then as soon as it's over it is over. I'm sure you've been injured before. Even when you remember that injury, you can't truly experience the pain like you felt it then. Same goes with being apart for half a year. Yeah, it took eight whole months for me wife (then fiancee) to get her K-1 and come here. And it sucked at the time. But at the end of the day I get to spend the rest of my life with her and I'm with her pretty much every minute of my life that I'm not at work, so it's not like it bothers me that we were apart for so long anymore. You get over it the moment you see her at the airport.
Anyway, best of luck to you. I hope you find a way to be united with her.
I speak to my wife in Spanish and I am not Hispanic. Does my story hold up or do you think I'm lying?

That's right: there is always some risk involved with issuing visas. What proof did I provide that I was actually going to marry my fiancee? A 3-sentence statement that I signed. I totally could have just brought her here, collected some money from her, and then bid her farewell. The Department of State took a risk. Such is life.
OP asked what might constitute better evidence. A few people have attempted to help him. His girlfriend's odds are still probably not very good. There's probably not much use in arguing it much further.
In any event, at least I got

I used to live in Peru. That's how I met my wife. As much as I love Peru, the country has a pretty significant problem with corruption. I dislike the fact that the National Police do almost nothing to protect the population until they receive a bribe. Also, I dislike the fact that beating women is, to a large extent, socially acceptable behavior in Peru. The capital also has a pretty significant pollution problem.
So now I've "bad mouthed" not "just 1 thing" about the country I lived in, but three things. I guess I'm one of the people you now "hate." I can live with that.

OP: Never mind all these holier-than-thou people who are absolutely certain that they know what your intentions are better than you are. Also, I have absolutely no doubt that you are intelligent enough to immediately dismiss anyone who makes the argument "if you don't like every law that has even been passed in this country, you should leave" as what they are: fools. You simply cannot ever convince people who say stuff like that. Sorry, but it's true.
Yeah, it's going to be very difficult to get an F1. The best evidence you could give is evidence that truly is tied to India. As you correctly pointed out, money can be moved very quickly to the United States even when people cannot, as our bizarre and hypocritical policy is that free trade in every single commodity EXCEPT labor is good. Somehow free trade in labor is evil and would bring about the destruction of the Republic or something, so we have to tightly control immigration. As nonsensical as it is, that's the law, and immigration is an area where the government seems to hold all of the cards: USCIS is the only game in town, Congress will take absolutely forever to pass any kind of reform to the INA because people (like many on here) love to bask in the glory of being part of the collective and think things like "If I had to go through a lousy process, everyone should go through a lousy process," and quite frankly your Congressman/Senator/President/Etc. don't give a damn about your girlfriend because she can't vote and/or donate a million dollars to a reelection campaign. So yeah, it sucks, but you kinda have to get used to it. If your girlfriend owns a bunch of unmovable property such as real estate, has solid evidence that she is being sent to the US by a job that she will return to, can show that she absolutely cannot leave her family for whatever reason, or something like that, that would be much better evidence than a bank account loaded with money. Unfortunately, 1) it sounds like she may not have that stuff and 2) even if she did it is very, very far from guaranteed that she'd overcome an IO's suspicions.
Many people have told you that you should get a K-1 even though you say you have no intent to marry. Do not listen to them. If you truly have no intent on marrying this woman, it makes no sense to get a K-1. If you think you might want to do it but are not ready and simply want to spend more time with her but cannot get her to the US on some other visa, look for a different way to spend time with her. Maybe she could manage to go to a third country and you could visit her there. Or maybe instead of her practicing her English you might be interested in practicing your Hindi by spending some time in India. Perhaps a bilingual college-educated person such as yourself could even find a job in India.
If you do want to marry her, though, then get the K-1 (assuming you want to marry in the United States). I know the wait sounds really long, but at the end of the day it really isn't that bad. The emotional pain you will feel is like any other kind of pain: it hurts while you're feeling it but then as soon as it's over it is over. I'm sure you've been injured before. Even when you remember that injury, you can't truly experience the pain like you felt it then. Same goes with being apart for half a year. Yeah, it took eight whole months for me wife (then fiancee) to get her K-1 and come here. And it sucked at the time. But at the end of the day I get to spend the rest of my life with her and I'm with her pretty much every minute of my life that I'm not at work, so it's not like it bothers me that we were apart for so long anymore. You get over it the moment you see her at the airport.
Anyway, best of luck to you. I hope you find a way to be united with her.
I speak to my wife in Spanish and I am not Hispanic. Does my story hold up or do you think I'm lying?

I was born and raised in the United States. I moved to Peru. So you post about me, based wholly on conjecture, is incorrect.
I dislike corruption, and I find the physical assault of women to be intolerable. Like most Peruvians, I am concerned about the level of pollution in Lima.
Glad you hate me for that, though! Whatever floats your boat/helps you sleep at night is a-ok to me!

I used to live in Peru. That's how I met my wife. As much as I love Peru, the country has a pretty significant problem with corruption. I dislike the fact that the National Police do almost nothing to protect the population until they receive a bribe. Also, I dislike the fact that beating women is, to a large extent, socially acceptable behavior in Peru. The capital also has a pretty significant pollution problem.
So now I've "bad mouthed" not "just 1 thing" about the country I lived in, but three things. I guess I'm one of the people you now "hate." I can live with that.

OP: Never mind all these holier-than-thou people who are absolutely certain that they know what your intentions are better than you are. Also, I have absolutely no doubt that you are intelligent enough to immediately dismiss anyone who makes the argument "if you don't like every law that has even been passed in this country, you should leave" as what they are: fools. You simply cannot ever convince people who say stuff like that. Sorry, but it's true.
Yeah, it's going to be very difficult to get an F1. The best evidence you could give is evidence that truly is tied to India. As you correctly pointed out, money can be moved very quickly to the United States even when people cannot, as our bizarre and hypocritical policy is that free trade in every single commodity EXCEPT labor is good. Somehow free trade in labor is evil and would bring about the destruction of the Republic or something, so we have to tightly control immigration. As nonsensical as it is, that's the law, and immigration is an area where the government seems to hold all of the cards: USCIS is the only game in town, Congress will take absolutely forever to pass any kind of reform to the INA because people (like many on here) love to bask in the glory of being part of the collective and think things like "If I had to go through a lousy process, everyone should go through a lousy process," and quite frankly your Congressman/Senator/President/Etc. don't give a damn about your girlfriend because she can't vote and/or donate a million dollars to a reelection campaign. So yeah, it sucks, but you kinda have to get used to it. If your girlfriend owns a bunch of unmovable property such as real estate, has solid evidence that she is being sent to the US by a job that she will return to, can show that she absolutely cannot leave her family for whatever reason, or something like that, that would be much better evidence than a bank account loaded with money. Unfortunately, 1) it sounds like she may not have that stuff and 2) even if she did it is very, very far from guaranteed that she'd overcome an IO's suspicions.
Many people have told you that you should get a K-1 even though you say you have no intent to marry. Do not listen to them. If you truly have no intent on marrying this woman, it makes no sense to get a K-1. If you think you might want to do it but are not ready and simply want to spend more time with her but cannot get her to the US on some other visa, look for a different way to spend time with her. Maybe she could manage to go to a third country and you could visit her there. Or maybe instead of her practicing her English you might be interested in practicing your Hindi by spending some time in India. Perhaps a bilingual college-educated person such as yourself could even find a job in India.
If you do want to marry her, though, then get the K-1 (assuming you want to marry in the United States). I know the wait sounds really long, but at the end of the day it really isn't that bad. The emotional pain you will feel is like any other kind of pain: it hurts while you're feeling it but then as soon as it's over it is over. I'm sure you've been injured before. Even when you remember that injury, you can't truly experience the pain like you felt it then. Same goes with being apart for half a year. Yeah, it took eight whole months for me wife (then fiancee) to get her K-1 and come here. And it sucked at the time. But at the end of the day I get to spend the rest of my life with her and I'm with her pretty much every minute of my life that I'm not at work, so it's not like it bothers me that we were apart for so long anymore. You get over it the moment you see her at the airport.
Anyway, best of luck to you. I hope you find a way to be united with her.
I speak to my wife in Spanish and I am not Hispanic. Does my story hold up or do you think I'm lying?

That's right: there is always some risk involved with issuing visas. What proof did I provide that I was actually going to marry my fiancee? A 3-sentence statement that I signed. I totally could have just brought her here, collected some money from her, and then bid her farewell. The Department of State took a risk. Such is life.
OP asked what might constitute better evidence. A few people have attempted to help him. His girlfriend's odds are still probably not very good. There's probably not much use in arguing it much further.
In any event, at least I got

I was born and raised in the United States. I moved to Peru. So you post about me, based wholly on conjecture, is incorrect.
I dislike corruption, and I find the physical assault of women to be intolerable. Like most Peruvians, I am concerned about the level of pollution in Lima.
Glad you hate me for that, though! Whatever floats your boat/helps you sleep at night is a-ok to me!

I used to live in Peru. That's how I met my wife. As much as I love Peru, the country has a pretty significant problem with corruption. I dislike the fact that the National Police do almost nothing to protect the population until they receive a bribe. Also, I dislike the fact that beating women is, to a large extent, socially acceptable behavior in Peru. The capital also has a pretty significant pollution problem.
So now I've "bad mouthed" not "just 1 thing" about the country I lived in, but three things. I guess I'm one of the people you now "hate." I can live with that.

OP: Never mind all these holier-than-thou people who are absolutely certain that they know what your intentions are better than you are. Also, I have absolutely no doubt that you are intelligent enough to immediately dismiss anyone who makes the argument "if you don't like every law that has even been passed in this country, you should leave" as what they are: fools. You simply cannot ever convince people who say stuff like that. Sorry, but it's true.
Yeah, it's going to be very difficult to get an F1. The best evidence you could give is evidence that truly is tied to India. As you correctly pointed out, money can be moved very quickly to the United States even when people cannot, as our bizarre and hypocritical policy is that free trade in every single commodity EXCEPT labor is good. Somehow free trade in labor is evil and would bring about the destruction of the Republic or something, so we have to tightly control immigration. As nonsensical as it is, that's the law, and immigration is an area where the government seems to hold all of the cards: USCIS is the only game in town, Congress will take absolutely forever to pass any kind of reform to the INA because people (like many on here) love to bask in the glory of being part of the collective and think things like "If I had to go through a lousy process, everyone should go through a lousy process," and quite frankly your Congressman/Senator/President/Etc. don't give a damn about your girlfriend because she can't vote and/or donate a million dollars to a reelection campaign. So yeah, it sucks, but you kinda have to get used to it. If your girlfriend owns a bunch of unmovable property such as real estate, has solid evidence that she is being sent to the US by a job that she will return to, can show that she absolutely cannot leave her family for whatever reason, or something like that, that would be much better evidence than a bank account loaded with money. Unfortunately, 1) it sounds like she may not have that stuff and 2) even if she did it is very, very far from guaranteed that she'd overcome an IO's suspicions.
Many people have told you that you should get a K-1 even though you say you have no intent to marry. Do not listen to them. If you truly have no intent on marrying this woman, it makes no sense to get a K-1. If you think you might want to do it but are not ready and simply want to spend more time with her but cannot get her to the US on some other visa, look for a different way to spend time with her. Maybe she could manage to go to a third country and you could visit her there. Or maybe instead of her practicing her English you might be interested in practicing your Hindi by spending some time in India. Perhaps a bilingual college-educated person such as yourself could even find a job in India.
If you do want to marry her, though, then get the K-1 (assuming you want to marry in the United States). I know the wait sounds really long, but at the end of the day it really isn't that bad. The emotional pain you will feel is like any other kind of pain: it hurts while you're feeling it but then as soon as it's over it is over. I'm sure you've been injured before. Even when you remember that injury, you can't truly experience the pain like you felt it then. Same goes with being apart for half a year. Yeah, it took eight whole months for me wife (then fiancee) to get her K-1 and come here. And it sucked at the time. But at the end of the day I get to spend the rest of my life with her and I'm with her pretty much every minute of my life that I'm not at work, so it's not like it bothers me that we were apart for so long anymore. You get over it the moment you see her at the airport.
Anyway, best of luck to you. I hope you find a way to be united with her.
I speak to my wife in Spanish and I am not Hispanic. Does my story hold up or do you think I'm lying?