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23 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:
It's the other side of the coin. We talk a lot about bad guys with guns and sometimes about good guys with guns and how to reduce firearms violence. Then there's this big grey area of people who just don't seem to realize that a gun isn't a toy. It is another issue. This death wont show up in most of the statistics people like to throw around.
Many people were not in favor of firearms training the last time it was discussed here. I realize someone who has owned guns forever and is responsible may think it's not necessary, perhaps thinking mainly about there own situation. I'm not worried about myself in most cases like this. I am responsible. I am worried about the multitude of people who are not.
Whereas this may not be popular. California mandates some sort of lock at purchase. Of course the next step is getting the owner to use the lock or lockbox, or safe etc.
Some of this can also be handled by laws. For instance any gunowner that allows a minor to take possession in California automatically gets charged when an accident occurs in the home.
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2 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:
Same alarmingly regularity as the USA?
Generally speaking everything gun related (homicides etc.) are about 1/7th the US.
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6 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:
First world countries.....OECD nations.
Sure, Canada pops up too.
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6 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:
Only in America.
A brief google search says otherwise. First one that pops up for me is in South Africa.
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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:
When I was on the fire department, I was stopped over 20 times for speeding by local police. Never received a ticket. It is an easy job, just a lot of training, and going into burning buildings.
And high cancer risks.
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I've lived here for a decade now in the Bay Area. It is supply and demand. Massive job growth coupled with minimal building and strong NIMBYism is why the area has high cost increases.
They haven't really built more, so prices will probably climb for a few more years until either job loss occurs or an equilibrium happens where job growth is curtailed by the lack of housing. Problem with the latter is that it could be awhile as people with higher paying jobs continue to cut in to the housing that the lower middleclass and poor typically occupy.
We recently bought, but have moved out of the core bay area and are on the edge.
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3 hours ago, bcking said:
To elaborate more fully, according to the study the following states have those three laws already (and this provides a more elaborate definition for what they meant by each one. I was just making a short hand version for my original post) -
Ballistic fingerprinting or microstamping of semi-automatic handguns (firearm identification) Firearms can be identified by ballistic fingerprinting Microstamping is required on semi-automatic handguns MD, NY, CA Universal background check Required for all firearms or handguns only Handguns only: CT, HI, MD, NJ, PA; all firearms: CA, RI Ammunition Brady check Ammunition Brady check or permit is required to purchase ammunition IL, MA, NJ
You might be interested to know though that after multivariate analysis, "closure of the gun show loophole" (states with universal background checks were excluded from this group, since it would be redundant) did not reduce firearm mortality. In fact it was associated with a small increase in firearm mortality. aRR 1.09 (95% CI 1.03 - 1.15)
Micro-stamping may be required by those three states but in actual fact no microstamping is actually available in the firearm industry due to cost and other technological problems.
California knows this and in requiring microstamping on hand guns has created a handgun ban on all newly manufactured handguns.
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And she kept an innocent man - Daniel Larson - in prison even after he was acquitted by a federal judge (he finally got out).
I do not have the words to describe the depths of her depravity.
- Voice of Reason and eieio
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2 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:
if he had 5 rounds per magazine would he have been more or less lethal?
Against unarmed individuals it would have a negligible effect. Against other armed individuals it would lower lethality.
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1 hour ago, Il Mango Dulce said:
not equally for a mass shooter, multiple smaller magazines would not bring him closer than equivalent rounds in 10x to 30x formats
I am not asking about restriction, confiscation or laws. I truly want to understand the perception of the need for gun users and owners
I would respond but this is a family friendly space.
The recent shooter only had 10 round mags.
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13 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:
I just told you I can articulate a need for those items, if you want me to bore you with the justification I will.
Again, What is the need that a 10 round magazine fulfills? Because if there is no justification we might be able to reduce casualties in mass shootings. If there is fine, what is it?
Did you see the video of the recent liquor store robbery? Two women put a combined 9 shots on the attacker and he was still on his feet.
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36 minutes ago, smilesammich said:
you asked what white privilege was, i was only answering your question. it's clear to me that you don't understand it, but take it personally anyway.
Personally, I hate the term "white privilege". A more accurate term is "structural racism" which no matter how much we do stamp out racism here and now, it will continue to ripple through generations. The primary driver of structural racism was mortgage and title laws of the 1930s through 1960s that discriminated against minorities and now ripple into generations today.
If your parents or grandparents bought into a 1950s suburb, that investment helped them and in turn likely helped you. If your parents were denied access to that investment then you are likely hampered by that. It might be why you grew up in public housing etc.
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5 hours ago, Póg mo said:
Just taking the 2nd amendment literally, you know, just like gun nuts, who refuse to let reality get in the way of their guns.
Reality is the fact that privateers in the US revolutionary war captained 600 ton 26 gun vessels capable of bombarding entire towns. These were privately held vessels. While I'm not advocating for private ownership of nuclear weapons (or any ownership of nuclear weapons). You might be surprised by how much firepower was in private hands.
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2 hours ago, IDWAF said:
It feels like 2013 all over again. Hopefully intelligence and sense will prevail.
In California, they have just reintroduced a semiautomatic ban (without fixed magazine). The last time that happened it was 2013, Governor Brown (a Democrat) vetoed as an overreach. Will he do it again?
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In the past couple of years it seems that mob mentality rules in this country. Both actions against the Sheriff and the NRA fit this notion.
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33 minutes ago, -Trinity- said:
How do you insure that the person you sell a weapon to is legally able to posses a firearm.
What if that person committed a crime like domestic violence within the last month, something you aren't aware of?
Or just got his permit for medical cannabis. As we all know, not all people will tell the truth....
Pretty soon you won't need a permit. My state doesn't.
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M16s are perfectly legal to own in the US. I'm thinking of buying one.
It really is a weapon of war too.
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16 minutes ago, smilesammich said:
i know its true. i'm not talking about just the end sale of a customer showing an i.d to purchase a six pack. i'm talking about federal and state alcohol compliance within the alcohol industry. have you ever gone through the process of getting a liquor approved for sale at state or federal level? do you work with the ttb? do you have any idea what goes into getting that bottle to your local liquor store shelf - under the premise of public safety? i'll tell you, it's a ton of regulation, there are lawyers and compliance companies that specialize in beverage law. all to keep words like "strong" off your beer label, lest you think beer gives you power. it's a heavily regulated industry. and most regulations are totally unnecessary because people don't even realize what's being done in the background for their perceived protection. but guns? guns you can sell on Craigslist. no oversight, just make sure you're doing the right thing.
Dealing with the ATF and CADOJ aren't exactly a walk in the park either.
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2 minutes ago, IDWAF said:
So are guns, for most people. You're comparing apples to oranges. Jim might call yours a straw man argument. But I wouldn't.
"Strawman" has been misused throughout this thread. Red hering is more appropriate.
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3 minutes ago, smilesammich said:
who is that?
James Yeager. A military contractor who runs Tactical response.
technically he did see combat in Iraq.
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6 minutes ago, smilesammich said:
you mean like the cia guys that sport cia hats/tshirts/mugs/fanny packs?
he means a windbag like this guy:
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3 minutes ago, -Trinity- said:
I wonder if that has any effect on the amount of shootings in your state. I think its good thing they do that though.
No, last year had the highest gun homicide rate since 2008. (California)
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Its not first world. It started in areas of Bangladesh and is shockingly common in areas of both Pakistan and India and is almost exclusively against women.