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TBoneTX-
This sounds like good advice in the general sense, but I - for one - am curious to know more about what you're referring to ... I mean, what is the concern exactly? I have a few ideas, but am interested to hear clarification, beyond the obvious of "my full name is XXXX and my address XXXX and my passwords are XXXX, etc. Thanks!

Eh back off of wbeem Jabl2rom, I understand what he/she is saying. I too am tired of pep talks from others who haven't waited as long. That said, it's not the wait that is the determining factor many times. What you, KatieKay and others who spout off such tribe fail to remember is that patience isn't always the sole factor at work in a particular couple's situation. Hell, if it was just a matter of patience and waiting it out, I'd have no trouble at all, for example. And really I'm still doing fine, no crumbling cookies here. However in my case there's a pregnancy involved and that complicates things, for reasons I won't go into. When you couple such external factors with the unfair processing time differential with the CSC, it's little wonder that some of us are on edge. So cut wbeem a little slack and take your own advice: be patient with such people KatieKay and Jabl2rom! Or does your patience only extend so far and apply to certain things? LOL
Look, sarcasm aside, what I'm saying is to be more sympathetic and possibly somewhat empathetic to everyone, including wbeem. Not everyone has your same situation; there very well may be external factors at work and not everyone handles such situations as perfectly as you two seem to be capable of. Some folk just get tired of the rah-rah BS after a while, that's all. So have patience and tolerance of such folk.
I'm just sayin'....

Yeah I understand you Jabl2rom, and in a way you're correct. However, please recall that not everyone will receive their NOA2 in the same rough time-period that others with approximately equal NOA1 dates will. Said another way, just because other August filers are receiving their NOA2s now and more are to come, doesn't mean that they'll receive theirs. There are still June filers who are waiting, for example. So it actually is possible that it might be an additional 5 months for a given filer, depending on their circumstances. And that is why some of us fight. I know in my case that the possibility of my petition requiring longer to adjudicate than other September filers is a large part of what has me motivated to do everything I'm doing, for example. And I have a reason to fear this possibility with a divorce (I mean will they REALLY need to read ALL 17 PAGES of my decree???) and previous filings. Please remember that some filers will take longer than others who filed at approximately the same time and that is a disturbing reality. Finally, whatever your reasons are to be frustrated, we support you too, hope you and you're fiance are holding up ok.
Anyway, just a thought....
I think you missed the point that you tried so diligently to make yourself: someone telling you to be patient IS someone telling you what to do. Therefore if your position of advocacy is that folk shouldn't tell other folk what to do - which you made clear in your two posts - then you must support the notion of not telling someone to be patient too. Else you go the way of hypocrisy. And in the end I think that is what a lot of us who rebel against such rah-rah stuff are attempting to convey: "don't tell me what to do and don't tell me how to feel." You can't have your cake and eat it too Shauneg.
I'm just sayin.....
So many flaws with that logic and argument. Eh, I won't even delve into it all. Let's just agree to disagree. You can choose to click on the sign out button up top too.

Eh back off of wbeem Jabl2rom, I understand what he/she is saying. I too am tired of pep talks from others who haven't waited as long. That said, it's not the wait that is the determining factor many times. What you, KatieKay and others who spout off such tribe fail to remember is that patience isn't always the sole factor at work in a particular couple's situation. Hell, if it was just a matter of patience and waiting it out, I'd have no trouble at all, for example. And really I'm still doing fine, no crumbling cookies here. However in my case there's a pregnancy involved and that complicates things, for reasons I won't go into. When you couple such external factors with the unfair processing time differential with the CSC, it's little wonder that some of us are on edge. So cut wbeem a little slack and take your own advice: be patient with such people KatieKay and Jabl2rom! Or does your patience only extend so far and apply to certain things? LOL
Look, sarcasm aside, what I'm saying is to be more sympathetic and possibly somewhat empathetic to everyone, including wbeem. Not everyone has your same situation; there very well may be external factors at work and not everyone handles such situations as perfectly as you two seem to be capable of. Some folk just get tired of the rah-rah BS after a while, that's all. So have patience and tolerance of such folk.
I'm just sayin'....

Eh back off of wbeem Jabl2rom, I understand what he/she is saying. I too am tired of pep talks from others who haven't waited as long. That said, it's not the wait that is the determining factor many times. What you, KatieKay and others who spout off such tribe fail to remember is that patience isn't always the sole factor at work in a particular couple's situation. Hell, if it was just a matter of patience and waiting it out, I'd have no trouble at all, for example. And really I'm still doing fine, no crumbling cookies here. However in my case there's a pregnancy involved and that complicates things, for reasons I won't go into. When you couple such external factors with the unfair processing time differential with the CSC, it's little wonder that some of us are on edge. So cut wbeem a little slack and take your own advice: be patient with such people KatieKay and Jabl2rom! Or does your patience only extend so far and apply to certain things? LOL
Look, sarcasm aside, what I'm saying is to be more sympathetic and possibly somewhat empathetic to everyone, including wbeem. Not everyone has your same situation; there very well may be external factors at work and not everyone handles such situations as perfectly as you two seem to be capable of. Some folk just get tired of the rah-rah BS after a while, that's all. So have patience and tolerance of such folk.
I'm just sayin'....

Thank you for the compliment and you're welcome. Creating something is a funny thing, ya know? When we as humans look at our own body of work, we tend to only see the "mistakes" that we think we've made and - in this case - sections that I'd like to rewrite. That said, Kristin put her awesome proofing skills to work and the rest of the skunkworks team reviewed it and gave it their seal of approval, so I went ahead with it. I felt as though time was of the essence, and so I didn't allow my perfectionist self to continually "improve" it over a period of weeks, like I would normally be inclined to. LOL
I will let you know what happens. Hopefully we'll hear something back from our capitol hill contact this week. The USCIS director seemed shocked by my report, as others have noted who were listening in, because I was careful to explicitly state the processing time discrepancy in days; ergo approximately 22 for the CSC versus 205 for the TSC. He thanked me for the input and said that they are monitoring processing times on a daily basis. So in the end, kind of a generic political answer, but hey, we got our voice heard at the very tippy-top level of the USCIS, right? Can't ask for much more than that, though we won't stop until something changes.
Anyway time will tell. All of us realize that these efforts may not generate much yield, but if you don't stand up and try, then nothing will happen, and for sure. So we must continue trying, at least in my view. FWIW.

Thank you for the compliment and you're welcome. Creating something is a funny thing, ya know? When we as humans look at our own body of work, we tend to only see the "mistakes" that we think we've made and - in this case - sections that I'd like to rewrite. That said, Kristin put her awesome proofing skills to work and the rest of the skunkworks team reviewed it and gave it their seal of approval, so I went ahead with it. I felt as though time was of the essence, and so I didn't allow my perfectionist self to continually "improve" it over a period of weeks, like I would normally be inclined to. LOL
I will let you know what happens. Hopefully we'll hear something back from our capitol hill contact this week. The USCIS director seemed shocked by my report, as others have noted who were listening in, because I was careful to explicitly state the processing time discrepancy in days; ergo approximately 22 for the CSC versus 205 for the TSC. He thanked me for the input and said that they are monitoring processing times on a daily basis. So in the end, kind of a generic political answer, but hey, we got our voice heard at the very tippy-top level of the USCIS, right? Can't ask for much more than that, though we won't stop until something changes.
Anyway time will tell. All of us realize that these efforts may not generate much yield, but if you don't stand up and try, then nothing will happen, and for sure. So we must continue trying, at least in my view. FWIW.

Thank you for the compliment and you're welcome. Creating something is a funny thing, ya know? When we as humans look at our own body of work, we tend to only see the "mistakes" that we think we've made and - in this case - sections that I'd like to rewrite. That said, Kristin put her awesome proofing skills to work and the rest of the skunkworks team reviewed it and gave it their seal of approval, so I went ahead with it. I felt as though time was of the essence, and so I didn't allow my perfectionist self to continually "improve" it over a period of weeks, like I would normally be inclined to. LOL
I will let you know what happens. Hopefully we'll hear something back from our capitol hill contact this week. The USCIS director seemed shocked by my report, as others have noted who were listening in, because I was careful to explicitly state the processing time discrepancy in days; ergo approximately 22 for the CSC versus 205 for the TSC. He thanked me for the input and said that they are monitoring processing times on a daily basis. So in the end, kind of a generic political answer, but hey, we got our voice heard at the very tippy-top level of the USCIS, right? Can't ask for much more than that, though we won't stop until something changes.
Anyway time will tell. All of us realize that these efforts may not generate much yield, but if you don't stand up and try, then nothing will happen, and for sure. So we must continue trying, at least in my view. FWIW.

Thank you for the compliment and you're welcome. Creating something is a funny thing, ya know? When we as humans look at our own body of work, we tend to only see the "mistakes" that we think we've made and - in this case - sections that I'd like to rewrite. That said, Kristin put her awesome proofing skills to work and the rest of the skunkworks team reviewed it and gave it their seal of approval, so I went ahead with it. I felt as though time was of the essence, and so I didn't allow my perfectionist self to continually "improve" it over a period of weeks, like I would normally be inclined to. LOL
I will let you know what happens. Hopefully we'll hear something back from our capitol hill contact this week. The USCIS director seemed shocked by my report, as others have noted who were listening in, because I was careful to explicitly state the processing time discrepancy in days; ergo approximately 22 for the CSC versus 205 for the TSC. He thanked me for the input and said that they are monitoring processing times on a daily basis. So in the end, kind of a generic political answer, but hey, we got our voice heard at the very tippy-top level of the USCIS, right? Can't ask for much more than that, though we won't stop until something changes.
Anyway time will tell. All of us realize that these efforts may not generate much yield, but if you don't stand up and try, then nothing will happen, and for sure. So we must continue trying, at least in my view. FWIW.

Well said TabeaK. rob999(and everyone really), as long as we're making a pseudo-list of what's been done to-date, the skunkworks team was busy this week. Kristin suggested the DHS online complaint thing and we roped everyone into that who would participate. Kristin also had direct contact with the ombudsman office, after emailing a copy of my white house packet. Stef attempted to get in touch with her contact who could reportedly help get the white house doc into someone's hands. Finally I sent the entire white house packet in hard copy form to the USCIS ombudsman office.
Based on the feedback I've received from congressman Carter's office, I am not giving up the fight, and I suspect that the remainder of the skunkworks team feels the same, though I won't speak for them.
Anyway, that's where things are. I've got a couple of ideas to pursue this week. We'll see what develops.
Thanks

CharlieTanger-
Yeah retheisen is correct regarding projections based on VJ data. I'm glad he answered first, as your post seemed a bit defensive, perhaps emotionally so, who knows, but whatever, I digress WRT that issue. I won't speculate regarding the amount that we can expect to see the general I-129F slowing phenomenon increase, as retheisen was pretty accurate. That said, the VJ data aside, the primary reason for my commentary regarding the likelihood of increased I-129F wait times at the TSC was and is based on information that I have received from two separate sources (who are reputable and whom I trust) who have been in direct contact with the TSC. Those sources have reported back to me that their opinion based on those conversations with the TSC was that the TSC will - in all probability - continue to decrease the speed with which it processes the I-129F. The reason, though not exclusively, was due to the influx of a large number of work-visa-to-AOS petitions coupled with a petition priority shift within the TSC that places the aforementioned work-visa-to-AOS petitions above the I-129F. Furthermore, the I-129F slid further down the proverbial petition priority ladder due to a decision to focus on yet other petitions, which weren't specified when I spoke with those sources. Finally the work-visa-to-AOS petition filings that have taken place during the past year or so is a phenomenon that is expected to repeat during the remainder of this year for certain, and likely beyond.
So that's why I said what I said. It's also the reason I have been fighting as hard as I have been fighting. I'm no longer fighting so that my fiance can be in TEXAS for the birth of our son, due to these delays I am fighting so that I won't have to leave them behind after his birth in Russia + 2 or 3 months, which is the maximum amount of time I can take off of work to be there. Nope, returning home alone would be monumentally difficult, and so I have continued the fight. For what good it will (or won't) do.
And with that I'm gonna stop there. This will be my last commentary on the issue. If you chose not to believe what has been presented to you, then you are free to do so.
ps-Understand that some miracle could happen and things could change within the TSC; I think we're all hoping for that. All I'm saying is that barring that miracle actually happening, this is what I expect to happen. It's not the wait, it's the imbalance in processing times between the CSC and TSC that I fight against. FWIW

CharlieTanger-
Yeah retheisen is correct regarding projections based on VJ data. I'm glad he answered first, as your post seemed a bit defensive, perhaps emotionally so, who knows, but whatever, I digress WRT that issue. I won't speculate regarding the amount that we can expect to see the general I-129F slowing phenomenon increase, as retheisen was pretty accurate. That said, the VJ data aside, the primary reason for my commentary regarding the likelihood of increased I-129F wait times at the TSC was and is based on information that I have received from two separate sources (who are reputable and whom I trust) who have been in direct contact with the TSC. Those sources have reported back to me that their opinion based on those conversations with the TSC was that the TSC will - in all probability - continue to decrease the speed with which it processes the I-129F. The reason, though not exclusively, was due to the influx of a large number of work-visa-to-AOS petitions coupled with a petition priority shift within the TSC that places the aforementioned work-visa-to-AOS petitions above the I-129F. Furthermore, the I-129F slid further down the proverbial petition priority ladder due to a decision to focus on yet other petitions, which weren't specified when I spoke with those sources. Finally the work-visa-to-AOS petition filings that have taken place during the past year or so is a phenomenon that is expected to repeat during the remainder of this year for certain, and likely beyond.
So that's why I said what I said. It's also the reason I have been fighting as hard as I have been fighting. I'm no longer fighting so that my fiance can be in TEXAS for the birth of our son, due to these delays I am fighting so that I won't have to leave them behind after his birth in Russia + 2 or 3 months, which is the maximum amount of time I can take off of work to be there. Nope, returning home alone would be monumentally difficult, and so I have continued the fight. For what good it will (or won't) do.
And with that I'm gonna stop there. This will be my last commentary on the issue. If you chose not to believe what has been presented to you, then you are free to do so.
ps-Understand that some miracle could happen and things could change within the TSC; I think we're all hoping for that. All I'm saying is that barring that miracle actually happening, this is what I expect to happen. It's not the wait, it's the imbalance in processing times between the CSC and TSC that I fight against. FWIW

CharlieTanger-
Yeah retheisen is correct regarding projections based on VJ data. I'm glad he answered first, as your post seemed a bit defensive, perhaps emotionally so, who knows, but whatever, I digress WRT that issue. I won't speculate regarding the amount that we can expect to see the general I-129F slowing phenomenon increase, as retheisen was pretty accurate. That said, the VJ data aside, the primary reason for my commentary regarding the likelihood of increased I-129F wait times at the TSC was and is based on information that I have received from two separate sources (who are reputable and whom I trust) who have been in direct contact with the TSC. Those sources have reported back to me that their opinion based on those conversations with the TSC was that the TSC will - in all probability - continue to decrease the speed with which it processes the I-129F. The reason, though not exclusively, was due to the influx of a large number of work-visa-to-AOS petitions coupled with a petition priority shift within the TSC that places the aforementioned work-visa-to-AOS petitions above the I-129F. Furthermore, the I-129F slid further down the proverbial petition priority ladder due to a decision to focus on yet other petitions, which weren't specified when I spoke with those sources. Finally the work-visa-to-AOS petition filings that have taken place during the past year or so is a phenomenon that is expected to repeat during the remainder of this year for certain, and likely beyond.
So that's why I said what I said. It's also the reason I have been fighting as hard as I have been fighting. I'm no longer fighting so that my fiance can be in TEXAS for the birth of our son, due to these delays I am fighting so that I won't have to leave them behind after his birth in Russia + 2 or 3 months, which is the maximum amount of time I can take off of work to be there. Nope, returning home alone would be monumentally difficult, and so I have continued the fight. For what good it will (or won't) do.
And with that I'm gonna stop there. This will be my last commentary on the issue. If you chose not to believe what has been presented to you, then you are free to do so.
ps-Understand that some miracle could happen and things could change within the TSC; I think we're all hoping for that. All I'm saying is that barring that miracle actually happening, this is what I expect to happen. It's not the wait, it's the imbalance in processing times between the CSC and TSC that I fight against. FWIW

CharlieTanger-
Yeah retheisen is correct regarding projections based on VJ data. I'm glad he answered first, as your post seemed a bit defensive, perhaps emotionally so, who knows, but whatever, I digress WRT that issue. I won't speculate regarding the amount that we can expect to see the general I-129F slowing phenomenon increase, as retheisen was pretty accurate. That said, the VJ data aside, the primary reason for my commentary regarding the likelihood of increased I-129F wait times at the TSC was and is based on information that I have received from two separate sources (who are reputable and whom I trust) who have been in direct contact with the TSC. Those sources have reported back to me that their opinion based on those conversations with the TSC was that the TSC will - in all probability - continue to decrease the speed with which it processes the I-129F. The reason, though not exclusively, was due to the influx of a large number of work-visa-to-AOS petitions coupled with a petition priority shift within the TSC that places the aforementioned work-visa-to-AOS petitions above the I-129F. Furthermore, the I-129F slid further down the proverbial petition priority ladder due to a decision to focus on yet other petitions, which weren't specified when I spoke with those sources. Finally the work-visa-to-AOS petition filings that have taken place during the past year or so is a phenomenon that is expected to repeat during the remainder of this year for certain, and likely beyond.
So that's why I said what I said. It's also the reason I have been fighting as hard as I have been fighting. I'm no longer fighting so that my fiance can be in TEXAS for the birth of our son, due to these delays I am fighting so that I won't have to leave them behind after his birth in Russia + 2 or 3 months, which is the maximum amount of time I can take off of work to be there. Nope, returning home alone would be monumentally difficult, and so I have continued the fight. For what good it will (or won't) do.
And with that I'm gonna stop there. This will be my last commentary on the issue. If you chose not to believe what has been presented to you, then you are free to do so.
ps-Understand that some miracle could happen and things could change within the TSC; I think we're all hoping for that. All I'm saying is that barring that miracle actually happening, this is what I expect to happen. It's not the wait, it's the imbalance in processing times between the CSC and TSC that I fight against. FWIW

Ok I've become entirely too tired and annoyed with all of this criticism of the VJ data. I too am an engineer and I live in the stats world. Although the amount of data contained in the VJ space represents a small amount of the entire body of data, it cannot be so easily dismissed with a mere wave of the hand. In the stats world, you don't often use the entire data body when making an argument regarding a particular position on a subject. Rather, you sample the data, discover the trends and try to form some type of conclusion based on those numbers. So long as the sample is representative of the data as a whole, then the argument is valid. The only argument that can be made against the point I'm trying to make is that we don't know what the entire data body looks like. However, that too isn't always necessary when examining trends. Often times, trend data is used to make a reasonable hypothesis about what the entire data body looks like.
But I digress, I don't want to get off into theorems and such, I'd be here all day. This is just a one-and-done post to say "back off of the VJ data criticism" ... his has validity and is supported by commentary in the many posts in the respective threads that report on experiences by real-life folk who have filed petitions in the respective service centers.
So no, your comments don't ease my mind, because I don't agree with you, but thanks for the attempt anyway. I won't sit back and relax and just accept the suppository that the USCIS is handing us, at least not without a fight.
But I digress again.
Flame away, I won't be reading the replies, as this subject is just too much of a pain point for me.

Ok per Kristin's request, I have cobbled up an intro letter and made a copy of the packet that I sent to the a White House. I'll FedEx it to ombudsman tonight after work. For what good it'll do.
And don't start pfrederiksen, this is a preemptive shooosh. We realize that the probable outcome is not favorable; likely nothing at all. We understand your argument against taking such action because of the aforementioned probable outcome. But we don't care. We're gonna try anyway. LOL

Ok I've become entirely too tired and annoyed with all of this criticism of the VJ data. I too am an engineer and I live in the stats world. Although the amount of data contained in the VJ space represents a small amount of the entire body of data, it cannot be so easily dismissed with a mere wave of the hand. In the stats world, you don't often use the entire data body when making an argument regarding a particular position on a subject. Rather, you sample the data, discover the trends and try to form some type of conclusion based on those numbers. So long as the sample is representative of the data as a whole, then the argument is valid. The only argument that can be made against the point I'm trying to make is that we don't know what the entire data body looks like. However, that too isn't always necessary when examining trends. Often times, trend data is used to make a reasonable hypothesis about what the entire data body looks like.
But I digress, I don't want to get off into theorems and such, I'd be here all day. This is just a one-and-done post to say "back off of the VJ data criticism" ... his has validity and is supported by commentary in the many posts in the respective threads that report on experiences by real-life folk who have filed petitions in the respective service centers.
So no, your comments don't ease my mind, because I don't agree with you, but thanks for the attempt anyway. I won't sit back and relax and just accept the suppository that the USCIS is handing us, at least not without a fight.
But I digress again.
Flame away, I won't be reading the replies, as this subject is just too much of a pain point for me.

Please note that the USCIS lockbox facility in Dallas and the TSC in Mesquite are DIFFERENT facilities. They ARE NOT one and the same. Therefore when you create a timeline, please don't claim that TSC is your service center. It isn't. And that you were transferred to CSC. You weren't/won't be.
I'm not sure why new filers don't get this distinction, but whichever. I digress.

Ok I've become entirely too tired and annoyed with all of this criticism of the VJ data. I too am an engineer and I live in the stats world. Although the amount of data contained in the VJ space represents a small amount of the entire body of data, it cannot be so easily dismissed with a mere wave of the hand. In the stats world, you don't often use the entire data body when making an argument regarding a particular position on a subject. Rather, you sample the data, discover the trends and try to form some type of conclusion based on those numbers. So long as the sample is representative of the data as a whole, then the argument is valid. The only argument that can be made against the point I'm trying to make is that we don't know what the entire data body looks like. However, that too isn't always necessary when examining trends. Often times, trend data is used to make a reasonable hypothesis about what the entire data body looks like.
But I digress, I don't want to get off into theorems and such, I'd be here all day. This is just a one-and-done post to say "back off of the VJ data criticism" ... his has validity and is supported by commentary in the many posts in the respective threads that report on experiences by real-life folk who have filed petitions in the respective service centers.
So no, your comments don't ease my mind, because I don't agree with you, but thanks for the attempt anyway. I won't sit back and relax and just accept the suppository that the USCIS is handing us, at least not without a fight.
But I digress again.
Flame away, I won't be reading the replies, as this subject is just too much of a pain point for me.

Ok I've become entirely too tired and annoyed with all of this criticism of the VJ data. I too am an engineer and I live in the stats world. Although the amount of data contained in the VJ space represents a small amount of the entire body of data, it cannot be so easily dismissed with a mere wave of the hand. In the stats world, you don't often use the entire data body when making an argument regarding a particular position on a subject. Rather, you sample the data, discover the trends and try to form some type of conclusion based on those numbers. So long as the sample is representative of the data as a whole, then the argument is valid. The only argument that can be made against the point I'm trying to make is that we don't know what the entire data body looks like. However, that too isn't always necessary when examining trends. Often times, trend data is used to make a reasonable hypothesis about what the entire data body looks like.
But I digress, I don't want to get off into theorems and such, I'd be here all day. This is just a one-and-done post to say "back off of the VJ data criticism" ... his has validity and is supported by commentary in the many posts in the respective threads that report on experiences by real-life folk who have filed petitions in the respective service centers.
So no, your comments don't ease my mind, because I don't agree with you, but thanks for the attempt anyway. I won't sit back and relax and just accept the suppository that the USCIS is handing us, at least not without a fight.
But I digress again.
Flame away, I won't be reading the replies, as this subject is just too much of a pain point for me.

Ok I've become entirely too tired and annoyed with all of this criticism of the VJ data. I too am an engineer and I live in the stats world. Although the amount of data contained in the VJ space represents a small amount of the entire body of data, it cannot be so easily dismissed with a mere wave of the hand. In the stats world, you don't often use the entire data body when making an argument regarding a particular position on a subject. Rather, you sample the data, discover the trends and try to form some type of conclusion based on those numbers. So long as the sample is representative of the data as a whole, then the argument is valid. The only argument that can be made against the point I'm trying to make is that we don't know what the entire data body looks like. However, that too isn't always necessary when examining trends. Often times, trend data is used to make a reasonable hypothesis about what the entire data body looks like.
But I digress, I don't want to get off into theorems and such, I'd be here all day. This is just a one-and-done post to say "back off of the VJ data criticism" ... his has validity and is supported by commentary in the many posts in the respective threads that report on experiences by real-life folk who have filed petitions in the respective service centers.
So no, your comments don't ease my mind, because I don't agree with you, but thanks for the attempt anyway. I won't sit back and relax and just accept the suppository that the USCIS is handing us, at least not without a fight.
But I digress again.
Flame away, I won't be reading the replies, as this subject is just too much of a pain point for me.

Yes, I knew pfrederiksen that you were going to cast a black shadow over the whole affair. But it is what it is. I think we all realized what the chances were when we sent the FedEx packet, which is why I sent it 3-day instead of overnight. I don't mind tossing $10 in the garbage bin, but not $40. LOL In addition, Stef has a contact that is supposed to help us get the letter into someone's hands who might actually be able to do something with it. Who knows if that'll pan out either, but Stef gave it a heck of an effort to get that contact on-board. I tip my hat to her for her efforts. Kristin is a hell of a proofer and April checked things over too.
So. Regardless of the outcome, I busted azz on that project, as did the other skunkworks team members. I will never lose that fighting spirit, despite the negativity of you and so many others. Heck I'm already looking at other things I can try next. In fact I've been working on one of them this week. The point to all of that being that I refuse to give up on the issue of an imbalance in the processing times between the CSC and TSC; they will not wear me down, I will keep at it until change is affected somehow, someway. As I've said before, it's not the wait that drives me, it's the unfairness of the imbalance in processing times.
But whichever, criticize it all y'all want. I've done more than all I can and that is cool. To me at least.
Ok I'm out WRT the debate regarding the merit of continued appeals...

Sure!

Ok I've become entirely too tired and annoyed with all of this criticism of the VJ data. I too am an engineer and I live in the stats world. Although the amount of data contained in the VJ space represents a small amount of the entire body of data, it cannot be so easily dismissed with a mere wave of the hand. In the stats world, you don't often use the entire data body when making an argument regarding a particular position on a subject. Rather, you sample the data, discover the trends and try to form some type of conclusion based on those numbers. So long as the sample is representative of the data as a whole, then the argument is valid. The only argument that can be made against the point I'm trying to make is that we don't know what the entire data body looks like. However, that too isn't always necessary when examining trends. Often times, trend data is used to make a reasonable hypothesis about what the entire data body looks like.
But I digress, I don't want to get off into theorems and such, I'd be here all day. This is just a one-and-done post to say "back off of the VJ data criticism" ... his has validity and is supported by commentary in the many posts in the respective threads that report on experiences by real-life folk who have filed petitions in the respective service centers.
So no, your comments don't ease my mind, because I don't agree with you, but thanks for the attempt anyway. I won't sit back and relax and just accept the suppository that the USCIS is handing us, at least not without a fight.
But I digress again.
Flame away, I won't be reading the replies, as this subject is just too much of a pain point for me.

Ok I've become entirely too tired and annoyed with all of this criticism of the VJ data. I too am an engineer and I live in the stats world. Although the amount of data contained in the VJ space represents a small amount of the entire body of data, it cannot be so easily dismissed with a mere wave of the hand. In the stats world, you don't often use the entire data body when making an argument regarding a particular position on a subject. Rather, you sample the data, discover the trends and try to form some type of conclusion based on those numbers. So long as the sample is representative of the data as a whole, then the argument is valid. The only argument that can be made against the point I'm trying to make is that we don't know what the entire data body looks like. However, that too isn't always necessary when examining trends. Often times, trend data is used to make a reasonable hypothesis about what the entire data body looks like.
But I digress, I don't want to get off into theorems and such, I'd be here all day. This is just a one-and-done post to say "back off of the VJ data criticism" ... his has validity and is supported by commentary in the many posts in the respective threads that report on experiences by real-life folk who have filed petitions in the respective service centers.
So no, your comments don't ease my mind, because I don't agree with you, but thanks for the attempt anyway. I won't sit back and relax and just accept the suppository that the USCIS is handing us, at least not without a fight.
But I digress again.
Flame away, I won't be reading the replies, as this subject is just too much of a pain point for me.