Crtcl Rice Theory

One poster in here last year kept insisting that Covid was no riskier for ones health than the Flu. 

"Just the flu" 2.0

First CHAZ encompasses all of Seattle, then we aren't getting In-N-out, now this. 
 
https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/seattle-signs-claim-the-internet-is-ending-thursday-so-get-ready/
 
Imagine a world with no internet. Sure, we'd miss the online shopping, the work-at-home ease, the Squid Game binge. But isn't it also kind of calming to imagine a world where we don't know how many friends are convinced Olive Garden will give them free food simply for linking to a Facebook post? Or which cousins believe the coronavirus vaccine is embedding Bill Gates into our brains?
In my city, Seattle, random signs around town claim that Thursday, Dec. 2, 2021, is the day the internet ends. On Tuesday, I snapped a photo of the message displayed at a closed sushi restaurant in my neighborhood. In the same lettering the restaurant once used to advertise that they were "now closed Mondays" or to hype their gyoza, the sign now reads: "12022021 INTERNET ENDS.

First CHAZ encompasses all of Seattle, then we aren't getting In-N-out, now this. 
 
https://www.cnet.com/google-amp/news/seattle-signs-claim-the-internet-is-ending-thursday-so-get-ready/
 
Imagine a world with no internet. Sure, we'd miss the online shopping, the work-at-home ease, the Squid Game binge. But isn't it also kind of calming to imagine a world where we don't know how many friends are convinced Olive Garden will give them free food simply for linking to a Facebook post? Or which cousins believe the coronavirus vaccine is embedding Bill Gates into our brains?
In my city, Seattle, random signs around town claim that Thursday, Dec. 2, 2021, is the day the internet ends. On Tuesday, I snapped a photo of the message displayed at a closed sushi restaurant in my neighborhood. In the same lettering the restaurant once used to advertise that they were "now closed Mondays" or to hype their gyoza, the sign now reads: "12022021 INTERNET ENDS.

I apologize for saying you claimed you knew of 6 people that died from the vaccine
The actual total is 8
 

I love how people with NO medical education all the sudden are experienced in immunology and use Google as the main source of information and feel brave enough to comment about it. 
 
Without tRump none of this was controversial.    

There goes the Resident reporter again
 
 
 

If Michigan is a "blue state"  why are Trump supporters, lawyers and Trump himself so convinced he was defrauded out of the vote?

Which White activist group did you have in mind?  What would they hope to gain by boycotting businesses that are black owned?   In the perspective of Black Xmas,  why should they fund businesses that they feel support institutional racism ? < I know many think this is not a thing which is the crux of their argument.
 
When you look across the backrooms and the boardrooms, the power is still predominantly white and male. That part is a fact. I know many businesses and institutions are working hard to close gaps in giving voice and opportunity to people of color, do you think they would take those steps without economic risk? 
 
You are free to avoid or boycott businesses that support BLM.
 
I am not sure who is more "out there" with the times: the Republican leadership and conservative media,  or young people of color trying to not give up their power.  I am betting long on the young people, however hamhanded and ineffective  this boycott  effort is. 

Humility and understanding the limits of one's aptitude really don't apply in this forum...but the thought was nice.

With 30% of the population still without 1 dose, how can looking at an entire country prove where the spike came from?  
 
As per your Dutch study
 
"Our results indicate that vaccination confers protection against onward transmission from vaccinated index cases, albeit somewhat less for Delta than for Alpha. Vaccine effectiveness against transmission to unvaccinated household contacts is stronger than to vaccinated household contacts, with the latter already largely protected from infection, and especially from severe disease, by their own vaccine-induced immunity, but differences in risk behavior may also play a role. Possible waning of vaccine effectiveness against infection and against onward transmission could result in increases in SARS-CoV-2 circulation among populations with high vaccine coverage. As full vaccination remains highly effective in preventing severe disease, also for Delta, a high vaccination coverage remains the key to control the COVID-19 pandemic [10]."
 

I think I got the picture.
 

This ol argument again
 
yes it does, it doesn't mean you eliminate it

Who's quibbling? Take the vaccine, reduce the risk of passing the virus on , or not, the choice is yours.  
 
 

If you are citing the Lancet article,
It will change the rate of transmission substantially from 38% to 25% as I read it. And according 8to the study, possibly more but they didn't have the data.. That is significant enough to say yes, it will change the chance that we transmit the virus to someone we love. Who is opposed to  that? 
 
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2106757

Would you agree that the long term affects of Covid 19 are also a known unknown? 

https://gizmodo.com/9-antivax-lies-to-watch-out-for-this-holiday-1848113384
 
Satanic ingredients, mass death, and other debunked talking points from the anti-vaccination movement.

“The vaccines are based on untested, dangerous technology.”

This claim is centered mainly around the covid vaccines developed by Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, which both are based on mRNA technology. These are the first mRNA vaccines authorized or approved for use in humans, but the underlying research needed to develop them has been ongoing for decades. Scientists were testing out mRNA vaccines in human trials even before the pandemic arrived in late 2019.
The pandemic did accelerate the course of typical vaccine development, which usually takes years, but much of this speed was gained by the legwork already done on mRNA vaccines, the huge marshaling of resources, including financial, needed to conduct large clinical trials, and the expedited review of the data by health agencies—not by cutting corners in the trials themselves.

“mRNA vaccines change your DNA.”
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“Vaccinated people are ‘shedding’ onto others.”

“The shots contain scary and/or satanic ingredients.”

“The vaccines are killing more people than the virus is.”

“Vaccines don’t prevent transmission.”

“The need for boosters proves the vaccines are useless.”

“Outbreaks in highly vaccinated countries show vaccines don’t work.”

“Kids don’t need the vaccine.”

If Michigan is a "blue state"  why are Trump supporters, lawyers and Trump himself so convinced he was defrauded out of the vote?

If Michigan is a "blue state"  why are Trump supporters, lawyers and Trump himself so convinced he was defrauded out of the vote?

With 30% of the population still without 1 dose, how can looking at an entire country prove where the spike came from?  
 
As per your Dutch study
 
"Our results indicate that vaccination confers protection against onward transmission from vaccinated index cases, albeit somewhat less for Delta than for Alpha. Vaccine effectiveness against transmission to unvaccinated household contacts is stronger than to vaccinated household contacts, with the latter already largely protected from infection, and especially from severe disease, by their own vaccine-induced immunity, but differences in risk behavior may also play a role. Possible waning of vaccine effectiveness against infection and against onward transmission could result in increases in SARS-CoV-2 circulation among populations with high vaccine coverage. As full vaccination remains highly effective in preventing severe disease, also for Delta, a high vaccination coverage remains the key to control the COVID-19 pandemic [10]."
 

With 30% of the population still without 1 dose, how can looking at an entire country prove where the spike came from?  
 
As per your Dutch study
 
"Our results indicate that vaccination confers protection against onward transmission from vaccinated index cases, albeit somewhat less for Delta than for Alpha. Vaccine effectiveness against transmission to unvaccinated household contacts is stronger than to vaccinated household contacts, with the latter already largely protected from infection, and especially from severe disease, by their own vaccine-induced immunity, but differences in risk behavior may also play a role. Possible waning of vaccine effectiveness against infection and against onward transmission could result in increases in SARS-CoV-2 circulation among populations with high vaccine coverage. As full vaccination remains highly effective in preventing severe disease, also for Delta, a high vaccination coverage remains the key to control the COVID-19 pandemic [10]."
 

Not saying I agree or disagree but it's nice to have dissenting opnions for a change

OK, there are LITERALLY daily examples of xenophobic and racist comments coming right from our Congress let alone in society.
 
I could understand all this if we were on AR-15 but to see this kind of though on VJ is mind blowing.   Then again around the world Countries like Brazil, Russia and many others have extremism and dictators so maybe it's learned thought.
 
The amount of hate spewed towards blacks, browns, is probably 100:1 when it's done in reverse.   
 
Term limits in Congress and Supreme Court is a must.

Mary had her interview this morning in Phoenix.  It took about five minutes after waiting about an hour.  I was outside in the car and she called me crying; I thought some disaster happened.  Took about 45 minutes then she and 5 other were naturalized.   
 
We have a trip to London next week so the only Passport Offices with openings are Honolulu, San Juan and El Paso!  We will work on reacquiring her Filipino Citizenship when we return.
 
Thanks for all the support!