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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from Letspaintcookies in K1 - Obtaining a SSN   
    I'll call tomorrow.
    Damn I didnt see that it was a requirement only for those that have it - thats good
     
    Thanks
     
     
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from Lskifghj in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Flight was fine.
    Wear masks.
    No booze.
    1 hot meal.
     
    No biggie
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    Smokey Bear reacted to Ela G. in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Polanco and surroundings do look like Spain a little. Everything else did not at all ahahaha.
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    Smokey Bear reacted to RD7712 in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Can you elaborate a bit on #3, please? 
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    Smokey Bear reacted to thisguyflies in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Sure, I can try, but this is the most complicated and unstable part to understand.
     
    It seems that mentioning "tourism", "visiting as a tourist", "staying in Mexico" or stating that "Mexico is open to tourism" is a red flag for them. Given what I've been told, and seeing the rumours @ohohoho mentioned; there's something floating around the immigration authorities and airlines right now about tourism being denied. There's no official statements, though and the whole thing is going off hearsay and undisclosed information. 
     
    I would suggest that you be openly vague (contradictory, I know, but allow me to explain😞
    Let's say they ask why you're traveling -Tell them you're meeting your fiancee (wife/family to be) in Mexico. That's why you're traveling. They might ask if your fiancee is Mexican, so just be honest about that and say no, they're American, but you're meeting them in Mexico to reunite. In reality, your fiancee might not have travel plans to go to Mexico, but as far as they need to know they will be. I can see this as potentially giving some ray of hope to bypass the "tourism" aspect since you're not a holidaymaker or going on a vacation. You're going for family.
     
    Please understand that I'm not an immigration lawyer and the advice i'm providing here comes from the experiences I've had the past two days. The whole thing is a gigantic mess.
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    Smokey Bear reacted to RD7712 in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Thank you so much! My fiancee will simply say she going to see her husband-to-be! 
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    Smokey Bear reacted to Ja3germeister in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    @Smokey Bear how was the flight from Amsterdam to Mexico? Was it similar to @ohohoho's flight experience? 
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    Smokey Bear reacted to Sarah84 in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    I just booked a flight from Amsterdam to Mexico City for June 17th. I will stay there for 4 nights and fly to Cancun on the 21st 🙂 It is a refundable ticket, so if Trump lifts the travel ban, I can still cancel my flights and my hotels are refundable as well.
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from In4theJourney in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Depends where you stay I guess like anywhere.
    It seems a little different to what I am used to - but not that different to Spain.
    I couldn't look less Mexican at 6ft 4, grey beard and hair down past my shoulders.
    No one has given me a second look.
    I ask my BnB hosts where is safe and follow their lead.
     
    Perhaps its not for everyone. But for me, all I wanted was 14 day stay, hunker down, speak to almost no-one - leave.
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from dpnce in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Depends where you stay I guess like anywhere.
    It seems a little different to what I am used to - but not that different to Spain.
    I couldn't look less Mexican at 6ft 4, grey beard and hair down past my shoulders.
    No one has given me a second look.
    I ask my BnB hosts where is safe and follow their lead.
     
    Perhaps its not for everyone. But for me, all I wanted was 14 day stay, hunker down, speak to almost no-one - leave.
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    Smokey Bear reacted to thisguyflies in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Ok, everyone, let's try to learn something from my experience.
     
    Here's what I've deduced from what happened to me and what I advise everyone with plans on flying to Mexico does:
     
    1. Go to your countries largest, capital international airport
    It's obvious that there's a communication breakdown between the airports, check in operators and airlines. Interestingly, I found out that KLM operate out of Manchester via Stobart Air. There's evidently some chain of command confusion going on here. I'm really not sure how other UK airports operate, but London might have actual KLM staff at the airport who are more knowledgeable. If you're not in the UK, see if you can find out which company represents KLM at your airport. 
     
    2. Don't overwhelm the check-in staff with information as they might get confused
    I'd advise trying to make things simple and not pull out endless documentation when you arrive. Certainly have it ready, but only use it if you need it. You don't want to cause concern to someone who doesn't know what they're talking about. Just hope that they don't question it.
     
    3. Do not mention"tourism" ever to anyone. Explain that you're meeting your fiancee in Mexico (even if they don't have a flight booked)
    If you put an emphasis on this, and crucially use the word "family" (unfortunate grey area with being a fiancee), you might stand a better chance to not be lumped in as a "tourist".
     
    4. Try to bypass talking to check in staff if at all possible
    If you can travel with only carry on (12kg with KLM, small bag) and don't check any baggage, print out your boarding card and print out and complete the health form, you'll can probably skip talking to check in staff and go through security. You're very likely to encounter questions at the gate (perhaps by the same staff at check in), but this at least brings you one step closer to boarding.
    Note: This is speculation on my part. I spoke with somebody at the airport who told me I would be able to do this, but use your own discretion and do what you feel is best if you think you really need to talk with them at the check in desk.
     
    5. Get lucky and don't be unlucky
    From what I've gathered from my experience and reading what happened with other users experiences on here, there's really zero guarantee anything is going to work. I know we're all sick of our lives being put in the hands of fate like this, but this is a roll of the dice depending on the people you speak to who are the only ones who can allow you to do this. The system is in shattered pieces and we sadly have to rely on luck.
     
    I truly believe if you follow these steps, you stand the best chance of this working out for you.  All else I an offer is some good luck and my appreciation for the help.
     
    INFORMATION RESOURCE:
    Image link to the Mexican Embassy Message on travel - source: https://embamex.sre.gob.mx/alemania/index.php/de/
     
    Mexico US Embassy Travel Fact Sheet (first Q&A answer):
    https://mx.usembassy.gov/travel-restrictions-fact-sheet/
     
    Image link: Consulate Email via @Ja3germeister
     
    The International Air Transport Association (IATA) Interactive Coronavirus Travel Regulations Map showing open air boarders in Mexico
     
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     
    (I'm going to post this as it's own thread for visibility) 
     
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from ek1357 in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Greetings!
     
    I wont bore you all with the details, but I am sat in an Air BnB in MC now. I flew LHR-AMS at 1030 - I was asked simple questions at luggage drop off and was told there are no resrictions in Mexico itself. Anyway - waited in Terminal 2 and had to fill out a Dutch Health form. This was moot for me as I am transitiing, but you have to fill it out. If stopping in NL thebn you hand it in. LHR - all shops bar WHSmiths are shut.
     
    In NL, all shops were open (not bars), I got Mexican cash no issue. Grabbed a beer and waited.
     
    Flight was very full - left on time, landed on time. Limited service on plane. You must wear a mask at all times.
    You need to fill out a MX health form and immigration form (both parts).
     
    Luggage was passed straight through I didnbt see it in NL.
     
    At immigration, it took mayve 30 mins. Was asked if I was on vacation, I replied and said I am seeing friends. He looked at passport, stamped it, took health form, took slip off immigration form, (you keep the smaller part) and away I went.
     
    Then waited for bag, took 5 mins. Scanned bags on xrays. They wanted to know why I had 2 laptops - one work one mine and said I should pay duty on the second as Mexico only allows 1 laptop imported. But he waved me on.
     
    I tried to use Uber but the was no GPS, so I went ot a Taxi booth in airport, following the signbs. Booked a taxi , pre-paid and then after 10 mins was at BnB met by host and my 26 hour journey was over.
     
    Happy to answer any questions - as I wait this out.
     
    Thanks for reading!
     
    SB
     
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from Ja3germeister in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Why are you going? (UK Airport)
    Why are you here (Mexico Airport)
     
    That was it.
    Really.
    Kept answers shirt and sweet - to the point if they wanted more info I had it.
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from Leah88 in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Greetings!
     
    I wont bore you all with the details, but I am sat in an Air BnB in MC now. I flew LHR-AMS at 1030 - I was asked simple questions at luggage drop off and was told there are no resrictions in Mexico itself. Anyway - waited in Terminal 2 and had to fill out a Dutch Health form. This was moot for me as I am transitiing, but you have to fill it out. If stopping in NL thebn you hand it in. LHR - all shops bar WHSmiths are shut.
     
    In NL, all shops were open (not bars), I got Mexican cash no issue. Grabbed a beer and waited.
     
    Flight was very full - left on time, landed on time. Limited service on plane. You must wear a mask at all times.
    You need to fill out a MX health form and immigration form (both parts).
     
    Luggage was passed straight through I didnbt see it in NL.
     
    At immigration, it took mayve 30 mins. Was asked if I was on vacation, I replied and said I am seeing friends. He looked at passport, stamped it, took health form, took slip off immigration form, (you keep the smaller part) and away I went.
     
    Then waited for bag, took 5 mins. Scanned bags on xrays. They wanted to know why I had 2 laptops - one work one mine and said I should pay duty on the second as Mexico only allows 1 laptop imported. But he waved me on.
     
    I tried to use Uber but the was no GPS, so I went ot a Taxi booth in airport, following the signbs. Booked a taxi , pre-paid and then after 10 mins was at BnB met by host and my 26 hour journey was over.
     
    Happy to answer any questions - as I wait this out.
     
    Thanks for reading!
     
    SB
     
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from dpnce in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Why are you going? (UK Airport)
    Why are you here (Mexico Airport)
     
    That was it.
    Really.
    Kept answers shirt and sweet - to the point if they wanted more info I had it.
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from Kaatje in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Why are you going? (UK Airport)
    Why are you here (Mexico Airport)
     
    That was it.
    Really.
    Kept answers shirt and sweet - to the point if they wanted more info I had it.
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from Ja3germeister in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Greetings!
     
    I wont bore you all with the details, but I am sat in an Air BnB in MC now. I flew LHR-AMS at 1030 - I was asked simple questions at luggage drop off and was told there are no resrictions in Mexico itself. Anyway - waited in Terminal 2 and had to fill out a Dutch Health form. This was moot for me as I am transitiing, but you have to fill it out. If stopping in NL thebn you hand it in. LHR - all shops bar WHSmiths are shut.
     
    In NL, all shops were open (not bars), I got Mexican cash no issue. Grabbed a beer and waited.
     
    Flight was very full - left on time, landed on time. Limited service on plane. You must wear a mask at all times.
    You need to fill out a MX health form and immigration form (both parts).
     
    Luggage was passed straight through I didnbt see it in NL.
     
    At immigration, it took mayve 30 mins. Was asked if I was on vacation, I replied and said I am seeing friends. He looked at passport, stamped it, took health form, took slip off immigration form, (you keep the smaller part) and away I went.
     
    Then waited for bag, took 5 mins. Scanned bags on xrays. They wanted to know why I had 2 laptops - one work one mine and said I should pay duty on the second as Mexico only allows 1 laptop imported. But he waved me on.
     
    I tried to use Uber but the was no GPS, so I went ot a Taxi booth in airport, following the signbs. Booked a taxi , pre-paid and then after 10 mins was at BnB met by host and my 26 hour journey was over.
     
    Happy to answer any questions - as I wait this out.
     
    Thanks for reading!
     
    SB
     
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from Ela G. in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Greetings!
     
    I wont bore you all with the details, but I am sat in an Air BnB in MC now. I flew LHR-AMS at 1030 - I was asked simple questions at luggage drop off and was told there are no resrictions in Mexico itself. Anyway - waited in Terminal 2 and had to fill out a Dutch Health form. This was moot for me as I am transitiing, but you have to fill it out. If stopping in NL thebn you hand it in. LHR - all shops bar WHSmiths are shut.
     
    In NL, all shops were open (not bars), I got Mexican cash no issue. Grabbed a beer and waited.
     
    Flight was very full - left on time, landed on time. Limited service on plane. You must wear a mask at all times.
    You need to fill out a MX health form and immigration form (both parts).
     
    Luggage was passed straight through I didnbt see it in NL.
     
    At immigration, it took mayve 30 mins. Was asked if I was on vacation, I replied and said I am seeing friends. He looked at passport, stamped it, took health form, took slip off immigration form, (you keep the smaller part) and away I went.
     
    Then waited for bag, took 5 mins. Scanned bags on xrays. They wanted to know why I had 2 laptops - one work one mine and said I should pay duty on the second as Mexico only allows 1 laptop imported. But he waved me on.
     
    I tried to use Uber but the was no GPS, so I went ot a Taxi booth in airport, following the signbs. Booked a taxi , pre-paid and then after 10 mins was at BnB met by host and my 26 hour journey was over.
     
    Happy to answer any questions - as I wait this out.
     
    Thanks for reading!
     
    SB
     
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from PatLuvO in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Greetings!
     
    I wont bore you all with the details, but I am sat in an Air BnB in MC now. I flew LHR-AMS at 1030 - I was asked simple questions at luggage drop off and was told there are no resrictions in Mexico itself. Anyway - waited in Terminal 2 and had to fill out a Dutch Health form. This was moot for me as I am transitiing, but you have to fill it out. If stopping in NL thebn you hand it in. LHR - all shops bar WHSmiths are shut.
     
    In NL, all shops were open (not bars), I got Mexican cash no issue. Grabbed a beer and waited.
     
    Flight was very full - left on time, landed on time. Limited service on plane. You must wear a mask at all times.
    You need to fill out a MX health form and immigration form (both parts).
     
    Luggage was passed straight through I didnbt see it in NL.
     
    At immigration, it took mayve 30 mins. Was asked if I was on vacation, I replied and said I am seeing friends. He looked at passport, stamped it, took health form, took slip off immigration form, (you keep the smaller part) and away I went.
     
    Then waited for bag, took 5 mins. Scanned bags on xrays. They wanted to know why I had 2 laptops - one work one mine and said I should pay duty on the second as Mexico only allows 1 laptop imported. But he waved me on.
     
    I tried to use Uber but the was no GPS, so I went ot a Taxi booth in airport, following the signbs. Booked a taxi , pre-paid and then after 10 mins was at BnB met by host and my 26 hour journey was over.
     
    Happy to answer any questions - as I wait this out.
     
    Thanks for reading!
     
    SB
     
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from TiEy in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Greetings!
     
    I wont bore you all with the details, but I am sat in an Air BnB in MC now. I flew LHR-AMS at 1030 - I was asked simple questions at luggage drop off and was told there are no resrictions in Mexico itself. Anyway - waited in Terminal 2 and had to fill out a Dutch Health form. This was moot for me as I am transitiing, but you have to fill it out. If stopping in NL thebn you hand it in. LHR - all shops bar WHSmiths are shut.
     
    In NL, all shops were open (not bars), I got Mexican cash no issue. Grabbed a beer and waited.
     
    Flight was very full - left on time, landed on time. Limited service on plane. You must wear a mask at all times.
    You need to fill out a MX health form and immigration form (both parts).
     
    Luggage was passed straight through I didnbt see it in NL.
     
    At immigration, it took mayve 30 mins. Was asked if I was on vacation, I replied and said I am seeing friends. He looked at passport, stamped it, took health form, took slip off immigration form, (you keep the smaller part) and away I went.
     
    Then waited for bag, took 5 mins. Scanned bags on xrays. They wanted to know why I had 2 laptops - one work one mine and said I should pay duty on the second as Mexico only allows 1 laptop imported. But he waved me on.
     
    I tried to use Uber but the was no GPS, so I went ot a Taxi booth in airport, following the signbs. Booked a taxi , pre-paid and then after 10 mins was at BnB met by host and my 26 hour journey was over.
     
    Happy to answer any questions - as I wait this out.
     
    Thanks for reading!
     
    SB
     
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from Lskifghj in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Greetings!
     
    I wont bore you all with the details, but I am sat in an Air BnB in MC now. I flew LHR-AMS at 1030 - I was asked simple questions at luggage drop off and was told there are no resrictions in Mexico itself. Anyway - waited in Terminal 2 and had to fill out a Dutch Health form. This was moot for me as I am transitiing, but you have to fill it out. If stopping in NL thebn you hand it in. LHR - all shops bar WHSmiths are shut.
     
    In NL, all shops were open (not bars), I got Mexican cash no issue. Grabbed a beer and waited.
     
    Flight was very full - left on time, landed on time. Limited service on plane. You must wear a mask at all times.
    You need to fill out a MX health form and immigration form (both parts).
     
    Luggage was passed straight through I didnbt see it in NL.
     
    At immigration, it took mayve 30 mins. Was asked if I was on vacation, I replied and said I am seeing friends. He looked at passport, stamped it, took health form, took slip off immigration form, (you keep the smaller part) and away I went.
     
    Then waited for bag, took 5 mins. Scanned bags on xrays. They wanted to know why I had 2 laptops - one work one mine and said I should pay duty on the second as Mexico only allows 1 laptop imported. But he waved me on.
     
    I tried to use Uber but the was no GPS, so I went ot a Taxi booth in airport, following the signbs. Booked a taxi , pre-paid and then after 10 mins was at BnB met by host and my 26 hour journey was over.
     
    Happy to answer any questions - as I wait this out.
     
    Thanks for reading!
     
    SB
     
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from Kaatje in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Greetings!
     
    I wont bore you all with the details, but I am sat in an Air BnB in MC now. I flew LHR-AMS at 1030 - I was asked simple questions at luggage drop off and was told there are no resrictions in Mexico itself. Anyway - waited in Terminal 2 and had to fill out a Dutch Health form. This was moot for me as I am transitiing, but you have to fill it out. If stopping in NL thebn you hand it in. LHR - all shops bar WHSmiths are shut.
     
    In NL, all shops were open (not bars), I got Mexican cash no issue. Grabbed a beer and waited.
     
    Flight was very full - left on time, landed on time. Limited service on plane. You must wear a mask at all times.
    You need to fill out a MX health form and immigration form (both parts).
     
    Luggage was passed straight through I didnbt see it in NL.
     
    At immigration, it took mayve 30 mins. Was asked if I was on vacation, I replied and said I am seeing friends. He looked at passport, stamped it, took health form, took slip off immigration form, (you keep the smaller part) and away I went.
     
    Then waited for bag, took 5 mins. Scanned bags on xrays. They wanted to know why I had 2 laptops - one work one mine and said I should pay duty on the second as Mexico only allows 1 laptop imported. But he waved me on.
     
    I tried to use Uber but the was no GPS, so I went ot a Taxi booth in airport, following the signbs. Booked a taxi , pre-paid and then after 10 mins was at BnB met by host and my 26 hour journey was over.
     
    Happy to answer any questions - as I wait this out.
     
    Thanks for reading!
     
    SB
     
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from Ela G. in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    I'll be booking tomorrow/today
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from opcav in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    Hey! I am waiting 4 weeks, then I will be doing this. Happy to buddy up and share the experience. Drop me a DM -
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    Smokey Bear got a reaction from Kaatje in Has Anyone Left Europe's Schengen Area for 14 Days to Then Enter USA?   
    I dont mind which country. Happy to tag along......
     
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