kumbaya

8 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

The guy with drool running down his mouth is so obviously  photocopied Helen Keller could see it 

 

The overall protest was mostly peaceful

nah, that is real.

mostly peaceful lol again,  live in dc and havent heard as many sirens all year as ive heard the past two days

Just now, Burnt Reynolds said:

 Kicking people out and making them stand back to where they can't see anything is the only thing abnormal here. 

 

Funny enough we've had one election overturned in Nevada

lets be real, none of this happened 🤣🤣

Just now, Burnt Reynolds said:

 

 

Y'all will not be satisfied until every dead person, illegal, minor, etc. vote so long as you think it'll deliver preferable results.

 

😃

but thats not what i or anyone wants though lol . you literally want more transparency than any other generation of people have needed for some reason

i said months ago in this thread (prob got deleted though) that some of you are just convinced there is just a very big conspiracy specifically against your interests for some reason.

4 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

I really don't understand how anyone, least of all the police did not know how this wasn't coming. Some of these people are well known, well funded, and had been advertising for weeks online what they intended to do. They are online even now making threats about coming back with guns on the 20th. I hope now it's finally taken seriously. It is a miracle no one else was killed but the persons a part of the mob.

i hope bowser closes down the city before inauguration. if you dont live in the city or have work certification you will need to stay home.

people want to act like this is a 3rd world country, govt should start treating it as such with check points and all

1 minute ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Republicans and Democrats didn't want election transparency, which is disturbing, and you have to wonder why. 

yall will not be satisfied until there is a live stream vr hologram that allows you to be in the room virtually while the votes are being counted 🤣

just a difference of opinion. no biggie guys. dont see ow its any different from stealing things from target or smashing a car

sedition merch 😂

 very normal. 

🤣🤣

4 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

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No they weren't, they were thrown out and refused to be heard on their merits. 

 

have you considered that maybe because its not valid/not supported by evidence? i know you maybe have read expert analyst tweets and forum posts, and judges just have legal court documents and gathered evidence from filing counsel thats definitely not as thorough as the evidence in your bookmarks folder

is this another one of those deep state things that non- q-anon just wont understand? if so, my bad.

1 minute ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

If we take one of the Arizona cases, voting past the date state law said. There's no ambiguity that every vote cast past then should be discarded.

 

See above.

and it was proven wrong/not valid by the judges who hear such.

what else do you want? how do you not feel you arent the one asking for too much at this point? such entitlement

10 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

You're not using things I brought up. I never, ever said the election will be certified for anyone let alone Trump on the 20th. I specifically said we'll know when Congress certifies the election in January. They just did late last night. I also don't know what you mean by long term and short term version of right and wrong. 

1 hour ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Courts rejecting things repeatedly were never a basis for them being right or wrong, or else there'd never be Obergefell or Roe.

what are you talking about here and why was it brought up in reference to the vote count being wrong and several judges failing to see this wrong?

your idea of remedy: keep counting votes and entertaining any statement without there being a basis until what exactly?

4 minutes ago, nykolos said:

No, I'd much rather be outside pissing on CNN's cameras instead. 

 

 

how are you any different from any person in portland or los angeles if youd take anyone's property and do anything with it though? you are mad about something you'd do to someone else, correct? lol

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Isn't Reparations Political?

it needs to be approved politically but reparations still wont "solve" racism.

3 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Why are you an Independent, do you not want to be at the forefront of the fight for Racial Justice, against the Patriarchy and White Privilege.

sarcasm or not

racial justice and equity for all people is not a political problem but a societal one.

people were jerks to women/other races before the american government system was ever established

6 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

 

If one can't even discuss this with some semblance of reason themselves, they really shouldn't be talking about others about reasonable. I have no idea where you think the ridiculous hyperbole of 30 years and generations will get you. 

 

 

you are the one comparing a president being certified by the 20th to roe and obfergell though? like, im literally using the things you brought up.

how is certifying a president by jan 20th anything like generations long fights for civil rights?

whats the short term and long term version of right and wrong you are trying to allude to in regards to a very static vote count in which trump lost?

in your imagination, this will or can be legally overturned by jan 20th even though there is no evidence and many courts have stated such? even judges that trump has appointed himself?

Just now, Sarge2155 said:

Let's just call it what it is, it's  race based it was shown yesterday for all to see. In 2013 Miriam Carey a black woman was shot and killed by capital police after making a U-Turn at one of the police check points on capital grounds. 

 

i remember this when i first moved to DC. it was very sad, because i think she ended up having mental issues and that was the cause of her erratic behavior.

you cant convince me that if everyone yday at the capitol had on turbans and hijabs with brown skin and beards we would not be bombing another side of the world right now.

11 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Courts rejecting things repeatedly were never a basis for them being right or wrong, or else there'd never be Obergefell or Roe. 

so what you're saying is that you want to test this in court for the next 30 years? perhaps with another generation of voters then?

very reasonable. lets keep trump the president for the whole time and we contest this over generations. good compromise for you correct? thats the equity you are looking for in this situation?

this is what i mean when i say one side is pushing things way too far. you have no reasonable stopping point to where you will believe trump lost and just accept it

3 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Not sure I was talking about a Target getting looted, but whatever you need to justify it.  

obv a figure of speech

3 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Not sure I was talking about a Target getting looted, but whatever you need to justify it.  All political violence/rioting is wrong regardless of where it occurs.  DC is no more sacred than Portland or Seattle or Minneapolis, etc., etc., and the people in DC are no more important than the folks elsewhere in the US who's lives have been ruined by the political violence you appear to be trying to distinguish as being different than yesterday.  Of course there are those that dismiss it as 'whataboutism', go back a few pages, there is already a discussion around that, and comparisons can be a very good tool.

someone throwing a brick throw an art supply store window !== someone potentially trying to kidnap the vice president

rioting is wrong no matter who does.

protesting police violence !== political. police are not political. they are police unless you are in a fascist state/country

people protesting on the steps of the capitol === fine. people hanging nooses and intruding with guns and zip-ties to stop a lawful ceremony !== fine.

i watched ted cruz's speech yday

it seems like his/the republican idea of meeting in the middle is: keep re-counting the votes until trump wins.

its just not reasonable guys no matter how much you wanna push that it is. trump lost fair and square many times. any one still supporting the grift needs to move on and stop egging people to put their lives in danger while they watch from the comfort of their home/bunker. its not acceptable or sane at this point

 yday was akin to 9/11 in many ways. people will not be able to visit the capitol/white house for months, perhaps years at this point. i remember in 4th grade when my school's trip to the white house / dc was cancelled because of 9/11. we heard so many sirens through the night last night. its sickening. i have never heard that before with "antifa". yday revealed so many weaknesses in america's structure.

to see a black cop practically running for his life from an angry white mob yday after years of hearing the "respect authority" crowd say its not a racial thing was peak irony. nothing that happened this years or years previous was never about respecting authority or following the law. 

2 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Yep, one side is more reasonable.  I wonder which side that is.  I already condemned the actions of yesterday, but of course that is not enough for some folks.  Are you willing to condemn the folks rioting all year (simply go back in the history of this thread) using incendiary devices to try and kill people?

people have condemned that though

why do you think a target being looted is on the same level as a group literally planning to kidnap hundreds of people and hang them? do you think it deserves the same level of attention/condemnation

you probably think of yourself as "pro-life" too lololol

1 minute ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Precisely the stuff Antifa and BLM say. Meeting in the middle is too far and too fast away from compromise! I don't see how the pointless act of condemnation is extreme in any way nor beyond compromise. If people can't even find common ground in conveying disgust for extremism regardless of the side, it's clear who the extremists are.

 

dude, everyone there yday was based on a complete lie and was willing to usurp OUR democracy. this is much worse than stealing plushies from target. its like you have no scope or depth of field here lol

24 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Isn't that the state of our current political actors on both sides?

 

as a registered independent, no its not.

one side is invariably more reasonable than the other and is actually being pushed way too far trying to meet in the middle with people who are moving too far and too fast away from any point of compromise. 

you do realize there was a noose and hanging deck at the capital and that people stormed government chambers with zip ties to kidnap and hold people hostage right?

thats way past "difference of opinion"

1 hour ago, B_J said:

 Unless, of course, you believe that having a different opinion makes you evil.

 

 

 

 

 

i think its evil when these people know they are lying but wont back down bc of politics or trying to win voters and 4 people end up losing their lives for believing them and a whole city is affected by their lives for +2 weeks.

i dont deserve a 6 PM curfew bc ted cruz knows he's running a con but others are to stupid to see it lol

different opinions arent evil. misleading people on purpose and manipulating them for personal reasons is.

7 minutes ago, Neonred said:

That's just everyday DC

yeah sans the terrorism

ive heard more sirens today than any day of supposed "riots" from the summer lol

live down the street from the capitol. trump supporters are a mess right now. the dismay as they walk away from the capitol realizing nothing will change 😂

lots of people who look like tweakers and methheads as well. true worst of the republican party.

6 hours ago, OhWow said:

I did this about 2 weeks ago when my last update completed 60 days. I still haven't heard a thing.

damn. sorry to hear that. i did today and they told me since i just changed my address i have to check back in a certain number of days.

so i will try again then :/

14 hours ago, nykolos said:

Record breaking number of Mail-in ballots

Record low rejection rate of mail-in ballots compared to prior elections.

 

A reality that I and 74 million other voters are not ignoring.

 

 

i feel like even of the 74 million that did vote for trump, people who believe like yourself are still a very (loud and wrong) minority

i read somewhere that if you have sent your application 60 days ago and the service center has bbeen open for 90 days, you can file a ticket and that should help you get an appointment? i will try this tomorrow

somewhere: https://www.reddit.com/r/USCIS/comments/jcexhi/i_still_havent_received_my_appointment_for/