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1 hour ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

I feel for you.   You get to the interview with high hopes only to find out you are not thrown in a black hole.  No-one knows how long, what they are doing and why you are there.  It's truly depressing...those who have never been in this situation have no clue.

 

There are days my husband and I don't get out of bed.   We are both athletic but my husband hasn't been to the gym since his second interview in October.  I have been exercising much less.  We've both gained weight.  We cry a lot..we pray more...sometimes we even ask why are we praying.   Allah brought us through so much after our case was returned we were so excited for that second interview this truly broke our spirt.  My mind is so off somedays.. I feel like I can't even articulate properly..it sucks!

 

You'll have good days and bad days try to do your best to keep yourself busy.  One day it will all be over and this will just a be a memory...a bad one but a memory none the less.

 

I am so sorry for you two.   I wish I could hug you! I REALLY hope something changes for the better for your case inshAllah. ❤️ 

4 hours ago, celie&joseph said:

I just want to step away for a second to say you guys look absolutely cute together on your profile pic. I honest to God pray you get your approval soon. Nshallah, you will. ❤️

 

In my opinion, it very well could be the name aspect. Each MENA country seems to have certain names they use. It's like they give them a list of names at the hospital to choose from lol I can tell my fiance a name of any random person and he could most likely guess their religion and sometimes their country based on their name (or at least if they are Lebanese) but this makes it hard to pin point the person to background check and correlate information. I hope it's something simple as that though and that makes it a smooth process for you.

 

thank you so much ❤️ & they are supposed to use certain names. 😛 My husband's brother just had a new baby & they named him Taj. They are trying to stop them from using this name.

inshAllah. thank you for the well wishes & your sweetness ❤️❤️ 

1 hour ago, Sarac9 said:

You send it back to the embassy. Above is correct. And there is usally a confirmation email. @SaRy is correct 

 @SaRy is correct? or @Visajourneyguy is correct? We sent it back to the email address that sent us the DS5535, which was the CasaAdminProcess@state.gov

But, we didn't receive a confirmation email.

I'll try to send it to the IVCasablanca@state.gov one now.

Thanks everyone.

Sooo.. when my husband filled out the form DS5535 a few days ago, he sent it to the same email address it came from. The e-mail reads "Dear Mr. ---------,

Please fill out the attached form and send it back to us for processing.

Please, do not scan the form .Please type your answers and keep the form in its Word format."

Sooo.. when my husband filled out the form DS5535 a few days ago, he sent it to the same email address it came from. The e-mail reads "Dear Mr. ---------,

Please fill out the attached form and send it back to us for processing.

Please, do not scan the form .Please type your answers and keep the form in its Word format."

1 minute ago, Loubalam said:

We traveled to tunisia and turkey and i was approved march 05th 19.

Its not bcz of that.

Ther's somthing else you can never guess.... 

Good luck 

SEE. This is the lady who saw my husband being interviewed, who thought it went well & assumed he'd been approved.

Maybe they are right about his name being the reason. Who knows! 😢

I, as an American, appreciate all that is done to protect us here. If the DS5535 helps to keep us more secure, that's wonderful! However, I am a very logical person and I can't find any logical reason for them to give this form to my husband.

This is why I am upset.

My brother is overseas serving in the US Army at this moment.

I was wondering if that would have anything to do with my husband receiving the DS5535? When my brother first signed up for the Army, he was asked if he has any relatives overseas.

He, at 18 years old, told them "no." He didn't think in-laws were considered relatives. While he was in another state, the Army shows up at my grandmother's door.

My brother used her address as his permanent address. They questioned her about my husband! Anyway, nothing else was ever said about it. This was in 2017. 

25 minutes ago, millefleur said:

I also don't know if this was mentioned yet but, does your husband have a STEM background? Computers, tech, anything science related?

 

I know that this triggers additional AP sometimes, it could also be a factor here if so.

he went to school for audio & video.

i don't know if that would be included in computers/tech.

16 minutes ago, millefleur said:

This could definitely be a factor...having a common name even gets Americans flagged. My brother had a very common typical American name and he was flagged, constantly got checked at airports, was put on a "terrorist watch list" because of his extremely common name.

 

I'm not familiar with the DS-5535 but it strikes me as a very extensive background check? In terms of a fraud marriage, every spousal visa applicant is assumed to be a fraudulent couple, which is why so much evidence is needed for the whole processes....it seems to me this DS-5535 is more about investigating the individual than for marriage fraud...maybe they think he is a fraud or could be hiding something (again, with the common name this could just be computers flagging him), but not the marriage specifically.

My husband's name is MOHAMMED. I'm going to do some research on this.

2 minutes ago, adil-rafa said:

i said it is used to check for all things 

look at the form itself

it has social media 

check siblings information

checks travel 

yes, & all the websites I've read have said the form is to check for connections w/ terror groups.

which they can use social media to find.

& they could possibly find it if your sibling is connected to a terror group.

or if you've traveled to another country where they usually do the training.

I ONLY wanted to know if that was really what the form was for.

4 minutes ago, adil-rafa said:

if the immigrant messages and social  media show he / she talks to a lot of others about relationships, 

security checks look for all issues 

one USC was informed 7 weeks after doing the form,  that her bf was talking to a woman from Canada and one from Germany and the case was being returned to the US 

but you are married,  why worried about this?

just know the form takes time and you have to have the patience to weather the storm

 

good God i am not against you 

i know this frustration

we first applied in July 2009 and he finally got the visa July 2015

 

the process is heartbreaking at times

 & I'm not worried about it? You mentioned it all.

I just asked if it was a fact or not.

1 minute ago, adil-rafa said:

if the immigrant messages and social  media show he / she talks to a lot of others about relationships, 

security checks look for all issues 

one USC was informed 7 weeks after doing the form,  that her bf was talking to a woman from Canada and one from Germany and the case was being returned to the US 

but you are married,  why worried about this?

just know the form takes time and you have to have the patience to weather the storm

 

good God i am not against you 

i know this frustration

we first applied in July 2009 and he finally got the visa July 2015

 

the process is heartbreaking at times

You said the DS5535 was intended to check for marriage fraud. I asked if it was a fact, for my own knowledge. Not to argue w/ you or assume you ARE against me.

Since you didn't say YES it is a fact, I am going to assume that's what you're thinking the DS5535 is for, not what you know it is for.

Thanks for all your advice & comforting words.

2 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Never said I did. But I also guarantee you don't know the full circumstances either, nor how they are evaluated and what is considered relevant facts.

Best thing is to only focus on your own case, not anybody else's. Nothing good comes from it.

 

Sure, many Americans do bad things too.

 

There is no evidence that the DS-5535 is used to find marriage fraud. It's regularly issued to people not doing marriage-based immigration as well. There's no known difference in how often it is issued in non marriage-based cases.

That one case just happened to come across an issue in the process of doing the investigation. They don't ignore ineligibles found during any process even if that's not what they're looking for.

 

The only known facts for the DS-5535 are that there is no known specific cause of getting a DS-5535, how long it will take to process, etc.

Everything else is based upon knowledge acquired over the time it has been available.

you're very right. & I wish you knew me, then maybe you'd understand that I mean no harm by stating what I said about their case.

& thanks for your feedback.  

1 minute ago, adil-rafa said:

it is from the warnings issued by the state Department on marrying a foreigner

 

https://ma.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/local-resources-of-u-s-citizens/marriage-information/

where does it say the form DS5535 is intended to check for marriage fraud?

15 minutes ago, Apple Bee said:

yes but luckily Derik's wife heard from the embassy and they have completed processing of the DS5355. He said she should be receiving her visa soon. I think it was in AP for two months?

I just spoke w/ him also. He was very upset still & said he was deleting his VJ page..

7 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Don't stress yourself out over somebody else's case. 1) You don't know their full circumstances 2) It's not fair either way. 3) This has nothing to do with the DS-5535.

 

The DS-5535 isn't about the relationship. The CO already took that into consideration. They aren't further scrutinizing why you want to be together. They're doing background checks.

 

There was one case where - during the course of such investigation - they came across information making them ineligible for the visa and that resulted in a refusal. But I believe that was an issue they found regarding a prior undisclosed marriage.

also... 

This is the 1st time I've heard that DS5535 is intended to check for marriage fraud. Which is why I was asking her if this is a fact. EVERYONE else says it's a background check, not to check to see if my husband really loves me or not. To see if he is involved w/terrorism. 

Obviously I DON'T KNOW which is why I'm asking. i just wish people would only state facts and not their opinions. 

I hope I don't sound rude to everyone, by the way. I'm very appreciate of everyone's feedback & time.

But, please state facts so I have the correct information. ❤️ 

8 minutes ago, adil-rafa said:

Have you followed any of the divorce posts on here?

where the USC is totally taken back by the fact his/ her love has come and left them?

you and your husband have been caught up in the process 

you can totally love him

he can totally love you

but this is something we have to prove to Immigration

and they should not say anything about religion

we are free to choose the religion of our choice

 

as you are frustrated and angry at this moment,   don't write the embassy till you have thought about all things

compose a letter with facts only

express concern but not anger

remember a letter will put added to his packet 

 

i'm just asking if it is a fact or your thought/opinion.

1 minute ago, geowrian said:

Don't stress yourself out over somebody else's case. 1) You don't know their full circumstances 2) It's not fair either way. 3) This has nothing to do with the DS-5535.

 

The DS-5535 isn't about the relationship. The CO already took that into consideration. They aren't further scrutinizing why you want to be together. They're doing background checks.

 

There was one case where - during the course of such investigation - they came across information making them ineligible for the visa and that resulted in a refusal. But I believe that was an issue they found regarding a prior undisclosed marriage.

You don't know what I know, to be honest. & I'm not stressing over their case, I was stating a fact.

& that's crazy! I know a lot of weird/fraudulent things go down in Morocco when it comes to mixed marriage & immigration. I've even spoken w/ someone who thought she could go to Morocco & meet her boyfriend and marry him, even though she hadn't divorced her husband in the US. She thought they wouldn't know. Even Americans go there trying to do fraudulent things.

Just now, Apple Bee said:

yes but luckily Derik's wife heard from the embassy and they have completed processing of the DS5355. He said she should be receiving her visa soon. I think it was in AP for two months?

I've been talking to a lot of people about this form/AP & I've heard of a few cases that were in AP for 1-3 months and then approved. But, it seems like everyone on VisaJourney has only seen it take 9+ months.

I've also read where someone was in AP for 17 months!

we sent them several screenshots showing me & my husband sitting on video chats for 18 hours, 12 hours, 11 hours, etc

different dates, different years. we barely have any time that we aren't talking (via video)

my boss has learned to just let it go because even when she told us in a meeting not to video chat during business hours, i kept doing it because my husband will call me non-stop!!!

i just feel like, if some other cases I've seen didn't need further scrutinizing then ours shouldn't have either.

& my husband does have the most common name IN THE WORLD. I keep hearing that may have something to do with it.

1 minute ago, PandT said:

I want to encourage you to be positive & things will work out.  VJ members are trying to help with the knowledge they have.  I can tell you from personal experience that when an African country is considered "Muslim" country or anything other than Christianity, although we know it's not fair, the consular seem to scrutinize people from there because of their belief.  Consulars overall are not bad people.  They use certain guidelines for the decisions they make.  This is a sensitive area people prefer not to talk about.  I empathize with you & understand what you must be feeling.  If your passport was kept, it's a good thing & something to give you hope.  Hugs to both of you.....................  

thank you ❤️ 

28 minutes ago, adil-rafa said:

 

it was prompted by the huge numbers of complaints received  to protect the USC and USA from those who would take advantage of our need to be loved

 

 

 

this - is a fact?

19 minutes ago, adil-rafa said:

Ok  going to take the other side to tell you why the ds 5535 form was made

Living next to Derik is another Moroccan man who now that he has interviewed for his citizenship,  announced to his USC wife,  he would divorce and marry his Moroccan gf    / nothing the USC can do 

 

Homeland Security,   embassies all over the world and ICE (immigration)   get phone calls,  letters complaints by the tons 

The form is a research tool to check the phone calls, messages (for the last 5 years) and travel for the last 15 of the immigrant

to make sure the immigrant does not search social media and the internet for less than honorable reasons

it was prompted by the huge numbers of complaints received  to protect the USC and USA from those who would take advantage of our need to be loved

Morocco, unfortunately,  is one of the countries that immigration has received too too many complaints about

 

I know you feel targeted but so many USC's have already been the target of someone they felt was honestly in love with them

just know when you are finished going thru this, it really is for your protection and you can be sure after they search all his media ,   he is yours and yours alone

 

 

 

so, this is a fact? it's to check for marriage fraud?

& not terrorism?

35 minutes ago, NearEthereal said:

As others have said, it was received due to the high fraud rate and risk of terrorism; nothing illegal or unethical about it. I know the AP process can be horrible, especially when it seems to be happening to innocent people for something as simple as a similar name or a location, however if there is nothing to be hidden, then the form will be processed and you will be with your husband.

 

The lack of travel, I think, will make processing the form easier. What they usually do is check into the family, check into the profession, check into the social media accounts (if that information was asked for) and check into a database of names and check against known criminals.

 

These may help ease your mind:

 

https://www.soundimmigration.com/understanding-administrative-processing/

https://www.cmu.edu/oie/foreign-students/docs/tal-students.pdf

yes, as I said there is nothing illegal or unethical about it.

i'm done w/ this post & this site.

23 minutes ago, geowrian said:

I understand the frustration. Hopefully you hear back soon.

 

That said, the DS-5535 has nothing to do with your relationship, ability to be a sponsor, etc. It's a form used with additional background checks.

What exactly triggers those is unknown. There are some circumstances often in common, but there is no guarantee who will get it or won't get it.

I don't believe even the CO has any say on who gets it. AFAIK, the system indicates if it is needed or not. No need to fire everybody working there...they're just following policies. The policies may or may not be greatly flawed, but understand it's not COs singling out people for the heck of it.

 

Not an easy pill to swallow: immigration is not fair. This is just a fact, often because of what others have done, not what you have done.

Unreasonable is hard to say as the reason for the DS-5535 being issued in any case is unknown. As far as anybody knows, maybe he did business or worked alongside somebody related to or involved with terrorists. Likely? Heck No. But he would likely have no way to know if that was the case and he wasn't involved.

I know my financial situation has nothing to do with the form. I was answering questions (that I keep getting repeatedly) on this post so we don't have to spend more time w/ those questions.

The CO was more interested in MY choice to convert to Islam.

& my husband does filming, with his brother.

Unfair & unreasonable because there was a man we spoke with there who was given his visa for K1. After meeting his fiance once for 2.5 weeks and he barely speaks english & english is her only language.

34 minutes ago, RJandHamid said:

Well it's currently not illegal (unethical maybe, but I guess that depends on who you ask). And again, the Moroccan government is unlikely to interfere with what the U.S. government does. They are 2 separate countries and governments.  

maybe the form is not illegal nor unethical but it is UNFAIR & UNREASONABLE for my husband to receive it.