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Brian1967## got a reaction from betelgeuse in Reporting Fraud to USCIS
Well I thought I would start this topic it is something new and I want to tell folks there is are several different way to report fraud to USCIS. In my long road over the past several months I have some information I wanted to pass on.
If the USC spouse thinks they are a victim of marriage fraud or their immigrant spouse entered into a shame marriage for the sole purpose of gaining immigration benefits. Please make a info pass appointment, when you arrive ask to speak to the on duty FDNS officer.
FDNS.......Fraud Detection & National Security Directorate. This is the Department within USCIS that will investigate individual marriage fraud/ visa fraud cases/ false VAWA claims.
This department is within USCIS, that several years ago was "upgraded" to the directorate level in order to combat small scale fraud within the system, the FDNS does not conduct interviews for green cards, that is for the IO's in each office, what FDNS will do is work with the IO's and ICE and any DHS officers and local law enforcement. To give you a hint how overwhelmed the system is the are three officers assigned to the South Texas Area ( this line is from Del Rio all the way to Houston almost) these officers function with a crushing workload . They will come down and listen to what you have to say and take notes.
Please note do not waste people's time with a bitterness and just go in there and vent...take PROOF, from a outside source or from the police or a court official, something someone can pick up the phone and confirm.
After you see this officer, they either will or will not have a investigation, you will never know, if proof is provided they will look into it. Also, to some folks it is like I told them why will they not come and get my ex spouse and send her home? There is not a immigrant bus that runs around and knocks on doors and the USCIS driver says "Okay, time to go home" It can take up to a year to deport/remove your immigrant ex-spouse (with appeals).
Also do not call back and ask for a update according to the Privacy Act of 1974 they are not allowed to discuss your ex spouses case with you, her green card is not between you, her and the government it is between her and the government, it is the immigrant's green card.
A bad or rough marriage that is terminated does not mean you are a victim of fraud, it means there was a bad marriage, USC's please ALWAYS think, your spouse is under a horrible amount of strain, make new friends, no family, maybe lost expectations, twisted thinking, and to top it all off you are fighting with the person you depend on for support, PLEASE I ask all USC's if your marriage is in trouble or a divorce is filed please, get to a marriage consular ASAP. (if they will go) (even if your spouse is cheating the marriage can still be saved in my thoughts).
Reporting a false VAWA claim or blocking a false VAWA claim is very hard but can be done. Once again you must have proof. If there is a police report written that shows you the USC as the aggressive party more than likely there is a claim. Always remember there is many different kinds of abuse out there some immigrant spouse's here have been victims of physical abuse, and there is just cause for the claim, some it is mental abuse or emotional abuse. Please, note to any USC that files with USCIS to block these claims they are not criminal complaints against you, it is a administrative process, if it was criminal you could face the accuser in a court of law (this is a constitutional right), which is why USCIS makes this administrative in nature. I am sure there are many spouses that will back up the claim a VAWA process is not easy and it takes a LONG time to do and the immigrant is in "limbo", is the system abused...yes but claims take so long to adjudicate that VAWA IO's look for ANY proof of fraud or a false claim, I think most of the lady's on VAWA part 4 will say almost all of them get some kind of RFE. IMHO some of the women are abused simply because their USC spouse does not want to get them a green card to keep control (USC please, even of the marriage is rough, get the green card, your immigrant spouse should be allowed a stable safe environment to live and not having a green card could be very scary).
I urge and USC's that are filing this type of claim to be very careful and do not act out of emotion and look long and hard over the course of your marriage and think to decide weather you have been "duped". Do some immigrants come here and abuse the system...yes are they caught? sometimes yes and sometimes no.
An example I use to work in a bar where a lot of IO's used to come in and relax, there was a story I overheard them talking about, A lady from Russia moved here 18 years ago and recently was just sent back to Russia, why? Fraud at the inception of marriage for the purpose to gain immigration benefits, she was put in jail and put on the next full plane back to Russia. 18 years well it took awhile and it is not like I heard the story you could hear the whispers around the table. The system works
Also I ask if you know of any human smuggling or any time of activity that involves human trafficking to notify ICE ASAP, call you local office or 1 866 DHS 2 ICE. Help stop this from happening.
One last thing USC's the chances of being taken to federal court under the I864 are very small, this form is used in a few states as a bar for spousal support. But always remember it takes a special degree or permit to practice law on the federal level, one case out of Florida Federal Court (Winters v Winters) rejected the federal case stating that these type of cases belong on the state court level.
I hope this is helpful to people:)
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Brian1967## got a reaction from dreamzunlimited in Reporting Fraud to USCIS
Well I thought I would start this topic it is something new and I want to tell folks there is are several different way to report fraud to USCIS. In my long road over the past several months I have some information I wanted to pass on.
If the USC spouse thinks they are a victim of marriage fraud or their immigrant spouse entered into a shame marriage for the sole purpose of gaining immigration benefits. Please make a info pass appointment, when you arrive ask to speak to the on duty FDNS officer.
FDNS.......Fraud Detection & National Security Directorate. This is the Department within USCIS that will investigate individual marriage fraud/ visa fraud cases/ false VAWA claims.
This department is within USCIS, that several years ago was "upgraded" to the directorate level in order to combat small scale fraud within the system, the FDNS does not conduct interviews for green cards, that is for the IO's in each office, what FDNS will do is work with the IO's and ICE and any DHS officers and local law enforcement. To give you a hint how overwhelmed the system is the are three officers assigned to the South Texas Area ( this line is from Del Rio all the way to Houston almost) these officers function with a crushing workload . They will come down and listen to what you have to say and take notes.
Please note do not waste people's time with a bitterness and just go in there and vent...take PROOF, from a outside source or from the police or a court official, something someone can pick up the phone and confirm.
After you see this officer, they either will or will not have a investigation, you will never know, if proof is provided they will look into it. Also, to some folks it is like I told them why will they not come and get my ex spouse and send her home? There is not a immigrant bus that runs around and knocks on doors and the USCIS driver says "Okay, time to go home" It can take up to a year to deport/remove your immigrant ex-spouse (with appeals).
Also do not call back and ask for a update according to the Privacy Act of 1974 they are not allowed to discuss your ex spouses case with you, her green card is not between you, her and the government it is between her and the government, it is the immigrant's green card.
A bad or rough marriage that is terminated does not mean you are a victim of fraud, it means there was a bad marriage, USC's please ALWAYS think, your spouse is under a horrible amount of strain, make new friends, no family, maybe lost expectations, twisted thinking, and to top it all off you are fighting with the person you depend on for support, PLEASE I ask all USC's if your marriage is in trouble or a divorce is filed please, get to a marriage consular ASAP. (if they will go) (even if your spouse is cheating the marriage can still be saved in my thoughts).
Reporting a false VAWA claim or blocking a false VAWA claim is very hard but can be done. Once again you must have proof. If there is a police report written that shows you the USC as the aggressive party more than likely there is a claim. Always remember there is many different kinds of abuse out there some immigrant spouse's here have been victims of physical abuse, and there is just cause for the claim, some it is mental abuse or emotional abuse. Please, note to any USC that files with USCIS to block these claims they are not criminal complaints against you, it is a administrative process, if it was criminal you could face the accuser in a court of law (this is a constitutional right), which is why USCIS makes this administrative in nature. I am sure there are many spouses that will back up the claim a VAWA process is not easy and it takes a LONG time to do and the immigrant is in "limbo", is the system abused...yes but claims take so long to adjudicate that VAWA IO's look for ANY proof of fraud or a false claim, I think most of the lady's on VAWA part 4 will say almost all of them get some kind of RFE. IMHO some of the women are abused simply because their USC spouse does not want to get them a green card to keep control (USC please, even of the marriage is rough, get the green card, your immigrant spouse should be allowed a stable safe environment to live and not having a green card could be very scary).
I urge and USC's that are filing this type of claim to be very careful and do not act out of emotion and look long and hard over the course of your marriage and think to decide weather you have been "duped". Do some immigrants come here and abuse the system...yes are they caught? sometimes yes and sometimes no.
An example I use to work in a bar where a lot of IO's used to come in and relax, there was a story I overheard them talking about, A lady from Russia moved here 18 years ago and recently was just sent back to Russia, why? Fraud at the inception of marriage for the purpose to gain immigration benefits, she was put in jail and put on the next full plane back to Russia. 18 years well it took awhile and it is not like I heard the story you could hear the whispers around the table. The system works
Also I ask if you know of any human smuggling or any time of activity that involves human trafficking to notify ICE ASAP, call you local office or 1 866 DHS 2 ICE. Help stop this from happening.
One last thing USC's the chances of being taken to federal court under the I864 are very small, this form is used in a few states as a bar for spousal support. But always remember it takes a special degree or permit to practice law on the federal level, one case out of Florida Federal Court (Winters v Winters) rejected the federal case stating that these type of cases belong on the state court level.
I hope this is helpful to people:)
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Brian1967## got a reaction from YoungRL in Reporting Fraud to USCIS
Well I thought I would start this topic it is something new and I want to tell folks there is are several different way to report fraud to USCIS. In my long road over the past several months I have some information I wanted to pass on.
If the USC spouse thinks they are a victim of marriage fraud or their immigrant spouse entered into a shame marriage for the sole purpose of gaining immigration benefits. Please make a info pass appointment, when you arrive ask to speak to the on duty FDNS officer.
FDNS.......Fraud Detection & National Security Directorate. This is the Department within USCIS that will investigate individual marriage fraud/ visa fraud cases/ false VAWA claims.
This department is within USCIS, that several years ago was "upgraded" to the directorate level in order to combat small scale fraud within the system, the FDNS does not conduct interviews for green cards, that is for the IO's in each office, what FDNS will do is work with the IO's and ICE and any DHS officers and local law enforcement. To give you a hint how overwhelmed the system is the are three officers assigned to the South Texas Area ( this line is from Del Rio all the way to Houston almost) these officers function with a crushing workload . They will come down and listen to what you have to say and take notes.
Please note do not waste people's time with a bitterness and just go in there and vent...take PROOF, from a outside source or from the police or a court official, something someone can pick up the phone and confirm.
After you see this officer, they either will or will not have a investigation, you will never know, if proof is provided they will look into it. Also, to some folks it is like I told them why will they not come and get my ex spouse and send her home? There is not a immigrant bus that runs around and knocks on doors and the USCIS driver says "Okay, time to go home" It can take up to a year to deport/remove your immigrant ex-spouse (with appeals).
Also do not call back and ask for a update according to the Privacy Act of 1974 they are not allowed to discuss your ex spouses case with you, her green card is not between you, her and the government it is between her and the government, it is the immigrant's green card.
A bad or rough marriage that is terminated does not mean you are a victim of fraud, it means there was a bad marriage, USC's please ALWAYS think, your spouse is under a horrible amount of strain, make new friends, no family, maybe lost expectations, twisted thinking, and to top it all off you are fighting with the person you depend on for support, PLEASE I ask all USC's if your marriage is in trouble or a divorce is filed please, get to a marriage consular ASAP. (if they will go) (even if your spouse is cheating the marriage can still be saved in my thoughts).
Reporting a false VAWA claim or blocking a false VAWA claim is very hard but can be done. Once again you must have proof. If there is a police report written that shows you the USC as the aggressive party more than likely there is a claim. Always remember there is many different kinds of abuse out there some immigrant spouse's here have been victims of physical abuse, and there is just cause for the claim, some it is mental abuse or emotional abuse. Please, note to any USC that files with USCIS to block these claims they are not criminal complaints against you, it is a administrative process, if it was criminal you could face the accuser in a court of law (this is a constitutional right), which is why USCIS makes this administrative in nature. I am sure there are many spouses that will back up the claim a VAWA process is not easy and it takes a LONG time to do and the immigrant is in "limbo", is the system abused...yes but claims take so long to adjudicate that VAWA IO's look for ANY proof of fraud or a false claim, I think most of the lady's on VAWA part 4 will say almost all of them get some kind of RFE. IMHO some of the women are abused simply because their USC spouse does not want to get them a green card to keep control (USC please, even of the marriage is rough, get the green card, your immigrant spouse should be allowed a stable safe environment to live and not having a green card could be very scary).
I urge and USC's that are filing this type of claim to be very careful and do not act out of emotion and look long and hard over the course of your marriage and think to decide weather you have been "duped". Do some immigrants come here and abuse the system...yes are they caught? sometimes yes and sometimes no.
An example I use to work in a bar where a lot of IO's used to come in and relax, there was a story I overheard them talking about, A lady from Russia moved here 18 years ago and recently was just sent back to Russia, why? Fraud at the inception of marriage for the purpose to gain immigration benefits, she was put in jail and put on the next full plane back to Russia. 18 years well it took awhile and it is not like I heard the story you could hear the whispers around the table. The system works
Also I ask if you know of any human smuggling or any time of activity that involves human trafficking to notify ICE ASAP, call you local office or 1 866 DHS 2 ICE. Help stop this from happening.
One last thing USC's the chances of being taken to federal court under the I864 are very small, this form is used in a few states as a bar for spousal support. But always remember it takes a special degree or permit to practice law on the federal level, one case out of Florida Federal Court (Winters v Winters) rejected the federal case stating that these type of cases belong on the state court level.
I hope this is helpful to people:)
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Brian1967## got a reaction from pddp in How to begin? :(
Still call the police find a safe place and get a restraining order. If he is this violent he will do it again, he can be sorry but facts remained get help NOW for your own safety.
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Brian1967## got a reaction from Darnell in Address for withdrawing I-864
OP get over to the local office and ask to speak to the FDNS officer they will help put a stop to it or ask to speak to the supervicor at the info pass desk get it done contact your senators office, wow she split right when the green card hit the NBC.... close the joint checking account if you have one take her off all the household bills and anything that has her name on it, if you have life insurance change the beneficiary ASAP. The next step is try to file fore annulment, or divorce get this done ASAP and protect yourself and your future, do not be like me and spend your days trying to fix something that might not have ever been there in the first place (meaning your wife loved you). I cannot begin to say how sorry I am that you and your family are going through this
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Brian1967## got a reaction from del-2-5-2014 in Address for withdrawing I-864
OP get over to the local office and ask to speak to the FDNS officer they will help put a stop to it or ask to speak to the supervicor at the info pass desk get it done contact your senators office, wow she split right when the green card hit the NBC.... close the joint checking account if you have one take her off all the household bills and anything that has her name on it, if you have life insurance change the beneficiary ASAP. The next step is try to file fore annulment, or divorce get this done ASAP and protect yourself and your future, do not be like me and spend your days trying to fix something that might not have ever been there in the first place (meaning your wife loved you). I cannot begin to say how sorry I am that you and your family are going through this
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Brian1967## got a reaction from TBoneTX in Green card and future divorce
there are not "several ways" to report someone there are not. MAKE A INFO PASS APPOINTMENT AND ASK TO SPEAK TO THE DUTY FDNS OFFICER. Read the post reporting fraud to USCIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you call ICE the recording will tell you to call USCIS customer service line, which getting to speak to a human being is like and act of god happening STOP telling people to call ICE it does not work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
READ the post "Reporting Fraud to USCIS"
EVERYONE ON THE FORUM STOP TELLING USC's TO CALL ICE....ICE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT SMALL GREEN CARD FRAUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ICE only cares about forced labor, large scale smuggling operations and human trafficking...If you guys think I am lying Google FDNS
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Brian1967## got a reaction from TBoneTX in Green card and future divorce
OP... Please read my section on how to report marriage fraud to FDNS, congrats you are a victim of marriage fraud, if there are no proofs of bona fide marriage she may have trouble I will send you a pvt message on how to talk to USCIS and do not worry to much about I864. Op I STRONGLY caution you STAY AWAY from this person BREAK ANY AND ALL CONTACT in order to avoid a abuse charge. Do not be alone with her even for 30 seconds you could find yourself facing a domestic violence charge, ISTRONGLY URGE you to never speak with this woman again. DO NOT HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH THIS WOMAN ACCEPT IN A PUBLIC PLACE OR WITH A WITNESS PRESENT.
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Brian1967## got a reaction from meagan in Green card and future divorce
OKAY FOLKS STOP TELLING PEOPLE HERE ON VJ TO CALL ICE....ICE DOES NOT INVESTIGATE SMALL CASES OF MARRIAGE FRAUD THIS IS WRONG INFORMATION...PLEASE READ MY POST ON REPORTING MARRIAGE FRAUD TO USCIS AND STOP TELLING PEOPLE TO CALL ICE....OR HAVE SOME ONE PIN THE POST SO THE CORRECT INFORMATION MAY BE PASSED ON ...THANK YOU
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Brian1967## got a reaction from LSnBigBear in Green card and future divorce
OP... Please read my section on how to report marriage fraud to FDNS, congrats you are a victim of marriage fraud, if there are no proofs of bona fide marriage she may have trouble I will send you a pvt message on how to talk to USCIS and do not worry to much about I864. Op I STRONGLY caution you STAY AWAY from this person BREAK ANY AND ALL CONTACT in order to avoid a abuse charge. Do not be alone with her even for 30 seconds you could find yourself facing a domestic violence charge, ISTRONGLY URGE you to never speak with this woman again. DO NOT HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH THIS WOMAN ACCEPT IN A PUBLIC PLACE OR WITH A WITNESS PRESENT.
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Brian1967## got a reaction from ccyahaira in Green card and future divorce
OP... Please read my section on how to report marriage fraud to FDNS, congrats you are a victim of marriage fraud, if there are no proofs of bona fide marriage she may have trouble I will send you a pvt message on how to talk to USCIS and do not worry to much about I864. Op I STRONGLY caution you STAY AWAY from this person BREAK ANY AND ALL CONTACT in order to avoid a abuse charge. Do not be alone with her even for 30 seconds you could find yourself facing a domestic violence charge, ISTRONGLY URGE you to never speak with this woman again. DO NOT HAVE ANY CONTACT WITH THIS WOMAN ACCEPT IN A PUBLIC PLACE OR WITH A WITNESS PRESENT.
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Brian1967## got a reaction from Marc_us82 in Reporting Fraud to USCIS
Well I thought I would start this topic it is something new and I want to tell folks there is are several different way to report fraud to USCIS. In my long road over the past several months I have some information I wanted to pass on.
If the USC spouse thinks they are a victim of marriage fraud or their immigrant spouse entered into a shame marriage for the sole purpose of gaining immigration benefits. Please make a info pass appointment, when you arrive ask to speak to the on duty FDNS officer.
FDNS.......Fraud Detection & National Security Directorate. This is the Department within USCIS that will investigate individual marriage fraud/ visa fraud cases/ false VAWA claims.
This department is within USCIS, that several years ago was "upgraded" to the directorate level in order to combat small scale fraud within the system, the FDNS does not conduct interviews for green cards, that is for the IO's in each office, what FDNS will do is work with the IO's and ICE and any DHS officers and local law enforcement. To give you a hint how overwhelmed the system is the are three officers assigned to the South Texas Area ( this line is from Del Rio all the way to Houston almost) these officers function with a crushing workload . They will come down and listen to what you have to say and take notes.
Please note do not waste people's time with a bitterness and just go in there and vent...take PROOF, from a outside source or from the police or a court official, something someone can pick up the phone and confirm.
After you see this officer, they either will or will not have a investigation, you will never know, if proof is provided they will look into it. Also, to some folks it is like I told them why will they not come and get my ex spouse and send her home? There is not a immigrant bus that runs around and knocks on doors and the USCIS driver says "Okay, time to go home" It can take up to a year to deport/remove your immigrant ex-spouse (with appeals).
Also do not call back and ask for a update according to the Privacy Act of 1974 they are not allowed to discuss your ex spouses case with you, her green card is not between you, her and the government it is between her and the government, it is the immigrant's green card.
A bad or rough marriage that is terminated does not mean you are a victim of fraud, it means there was a bad marriage, USC's please ALWAYS think, your spouse is under a horrible amount of strain, make new friends, no family, maybe lost expectations, twisted thinking, and to top it all off you are fighting with the person you depend on for support, PLEASE I ask all USC's if your marriage is in trouble or a divorce is filed please, get to a marriage consular ASAP. (if they will go) (even if your spouse is cheating the marriage can still be saved in my thoughts).
Reporting a false VAWA claim or blocking a false VAWA claim is very hard but can be done. Once again you must have proof. If there is a police report written that shows you the USC as the aggressive party more than likely there is a claim. Always remember there is many different kinds of abuse out there some immigrant spouse's here have been victims of physical abuse, and there is just cause for the claim, some it is mental abuse or emotional abuse. Please, note to any USC that files with USCIS to block these claims they are not criminal complaints against you, it is a administrative process, if it was criminal you could face the accuser in a court of law (this is a constitutional right), which is why USCIS makes this administrative in nature. I am sure there are many spouses that will back up the claim a VAWA process is not easy and it takes a LONG time to do and the immigrant is in "limbo", is the system abused...yes but claims take so long to adjudicate that VAWA IO's look for ANY proof of fraud or a false claim, I think most of the lady's on VAWA part 4 will say almost all of them get some kind of RFE. IMHO some of the women are abused simply because their USC spouse does not want to get them a green card to keep control (USC please, even of the marriage is rough, get the green card, your immigrant spouse should be allowed a stable safe environment to live and not having a green card could be very scary).
I urge and USC's that are filing this type of claim to be very careful and do not act out of emotion and look long and hard over the course of your marriage and think to decide weather you have been "duped". Do some immigrants come here and abuse the system...yes are they caught? sometimes yes and sometimes no.
An example I use to work in a bar where a lot of IO's used to come in and relax, there was a story I overheard them talking about, A lady from Russia moved here 18 years ago and recently was just sent back to Russia, why? Fraud at the inception of marriage for the purpose to gain immigration benefits, she was put in jail and put on the next full plane back to Russia. 18 years well it took awhile and it is not like I heard the story you could hear the whispers around the table. The system works
Also I ask if you know of any human smuggling or any time of activity that involves human trafficking to notify ICE ASAP, call you local office or 1 866 DHS 2 ICE. Help stop this from happening.
One last thing USC's the chances of being taken to federal court under the I864 are very small, this form is used in a few states as a bar for spousal support. But always remember it takes a special degree or permit to practice law on the federal level, one case out of Florida Federal Court (Winters v Winters) rejected the federal case stating that these type of cases belong on the state court level.
I hope this is helpful to people:)
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Brian1967## got a reaction from heo luoi in Reporting Fraud to USCIS
Well I thought I would start this topic it is something new and I want to tell folks there is are several different way to report fraud to USCIS. In my long road over the past several months I have some information I wanted to pass on.
If the USC spouse thinks they are a victim of marriage fraud or their immigrant spouse entered into a shame marriage for the sole purpose of gaining immigration benefits. Please make a info pass appointment, when you arrive ask to speak to the on duty FDNS officer.
FDNS.......Fraud Detection & National Security Directorate. This is the Department within USCIS that will investigate individual marriage fraud/ visa fraud cases/ false VAWA claims.
This department is within USCIS, that several years ago was "upgraded" to the directorate level in order to combat small scale fraud within the system, the FDNS does not conduct interviews for green cards, that is for the IO's in each office, what FDNS will do is work with the IO's and ICE and any DHS officers and local law enforcement. To give you a hint how overwhelmed the system is the are three officers assigned to the South Texas Area ( this line is from Del Rio all the way to Houston almost) these officers function with a crushing workload . They will come down and listen to what you have to say and take notes.
Please note do not waste people's time with a bitterness and just go in there and vent...take PROOF, from a outside source or from the police or a court official, something someone can pick up the phone and confirm.
After you see this officer, they either will or will not have a investigation, you will never know, if proof is provided they will look into it. Also, to some folks it is like I told them why will they not come and get my ex spouse and send her home? There is not a immigrant bus that runs around and knocks on doors and the USCIS driver says "Okay, time to go home" It can take up to a year to deport/remove your immigrant ex-spouse (with appeals).
Also do not call back and ask for a update according to the Privacy Act of 1974 they are not allowed to discuss your ex spouses case with you, her green card is not between you, her and the government it is between her and the government, it is the immigrant's green card.
A bad or rough marriage that is terminated does not mean you are a victim of fraud, it means there was a bad marriage, USC's please ALWAYS think, your spouse is under a horrible amount of strain, make new friends, no family, maybe lost expectations, twisted thinking, and to top it all off you are fighting with the person you depend on for support, PLEASE I ask all USC's if your marriage is in trouble or a divorce is filed please, get to a marriage consular ASAP. (if they will go) (even if your spouse is cheating the marriage can still be saved in my thoughts).
Reporting a false VAWA claim or blocking a false VAWA claim is very hard but can be done. Once again you must have proof. If there is a police report written that shows you the USC as the aggressive party more than likely there is a claim. Always remember there is many different kinds of abuse out there some immigrant spouse's here have been victims of physical abuse, and there is just cause for the claim, some it is mental abuse or emotional abuse. Please, note to any USC that files with USCIS to block these claims they are not criminal complaints against you, it is a administrative process, if it was criminal you could face the accuser in a court of law (this is a constitutional right), which is why USCIS makes this administrative in nature. I am sure there are many spouses that will back up the claim a VAWA process is not easy and it takes a LONG time to do and the immigrant is in "limbo", is the system abused...yes but claims take so long to adjudicate that VAWA IO's look for ANY proof of fraud or a false claim, I think most of the lady's on VAWA part 4 will say almost all of them get some kind of RFE. IMHO some of the women are abused simply because their USC spouse does not want to get them a green card to keep control (USC please, even of the marriage is rough, get the green card, your immigrant spouse should be allowed a stable safe environment to live and not having a green card could be very scary).
I urge and USC's that are filing this type of claim to be very careful and do not act out of emotion and look long and hard over the course of your marriage and think to decide weather you have been "duped". Do some immigrants come here and abuse the system...yes are they caught? sometimes yes and sometimes no.
An example I use to work in a bar where a lot of IO's used to come in and relax, there was a story I overheard them talking about, A lady from Russia moved here 18 years ago and recently was just sent back to Russia, why? Fraud at the inception of marriage for the purpose to gain immigration benefits, she was put in jail and put on the next full plane back to Russia. 18 years well it took awhile and it is not like I heard the story you could hear the whispers around the table. The system works
Also I ask if you know of any human smuggling or any time of activity that involves human trafficking to notify ICE ASAP, call you local office or 1 866 DHS 2 ICE. Help stop this from happening.
One last thing USC's the chances of being taken to federal court under the I864 are very small, this form is used in a few states as a bar for spousal support. But always remember it takes a special degree or permit to practice law on the federal level, one case out of Florida Federal Court (Winters v Winters) rejected the federal case stating that these type of cases belong on the state court level.
I hope this is helpful to people:)
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Brian1967## got a reaction from tamcloud in Reporting Fraud to USCIS
Well I thought I would start this topic it is something new and I want to tell folks there is are several different way to report fraud to USCIS. In my long road over the past several months I have some information I wanted to pass on.
If the USC spouse thinks they are a victim of marriage fraud or their immigrant spouse entered into a shame marriage for the sole purpose of gaining immigration benefits. Please make a info pass appointment, when you arrive ask to speak to the on duty FDNS officer.
FDNS.......Fraud Detection & National Security Directorate. This is the Department within USCIS that will investigate individual marriage fraud/ visa fraud cases/ false VAWA claims.
This department is within USCIS, that several years ago was "upgraded" to the directorate level in order to combat small scale fraud within the system, the FDNS does not conduct interviews for green cards, that is for the IO's in each office, what FDNS will do is work with the IO's and ICE and any DHS officers and local law enforcement. To give you a hint how overwhelmed the system is the are three officers assigned to the South Texas Area ( this line is from Del Rio all the way to Houston almost) these officers function with a crushing workload . They will come down and listen to what you have to say and take notes.
Please note do not waste people's time with a bitterness and just go in there and vent...take PROOF, from a outside source or from the police or a court official, something someone can pick up the phone and confirm.
After you see this officer, they either will or will not have a investigation, you will never know, if proof is provided they will look into it. Also, to some folks it is like I told them why will they not come and get my ex spouse and send her home? There is not a immigrant bus that runs around and knocks on doors and the USCIS driver says "Okay, time to go home" It can take up to a year to deport/remove your immigrant ex-spouse (with appeals).
Also do not call back and ask for a update according to the Privacy Act of 1974 they are not allowed to discuss your ex spouses case with you, her green card is not between you, her and the government it is between her and the government, it is the immigrant's green card.
A bad or rough marriage that is terminated does not mean you are a victim of fraud, it means there was a bad marriage, USC's please ALWAYS think, your spouse is under a horrible amount of strain, make new friends, no family, maybe lost expectations, twisted thinking, and to top it all off you are fighting with the person you depend on for support, PLEASE I ask all USC's if your marriage is in trouble or a divorce is filed please, get to a marriage consular ASAP. (if they will go) (even if your spouse is cheating the marriage can still be saved in my thoughts).
Reporting a false VAWA claim or blocking a false VAWA claim is very hard but can be done. Once again you must have proof. If there is a police report written that shows you the USC as the aggressive party more than likely there is a claim. Always remember there is many different kinds of abuse out there some immigrant spouse's here have been victims of physical abuse, and there is just cause for the claim, some it is mental abuse or emotional abuse. Please, note to any USC that files with USCIS to block these claims they are not criminal complaints against you, it is a administrative process, if it was criminal you could face the accuser in a court of law (this is a constitutional right), which is why USCIS makes this administrative in nature. I am sure there are many spouses that will back up the claim a VAWA process is not easy and it takes a LONG time to do and the immigrant is in "limbo", is the system abused...yes but claims take so long to adjudicate that VAWA IO's look for ANY proof of fraud or a false claim, I think most of the lady's on VAWA part 4 will say almost all of them get some kind of RFE. IMHO some of the women are abused simply because their USC spouse does not want to get them a green card to keep control (USC please, even of the marriage is rough, get the green card, your immigrant spouse should be allowed a stable safe environment to live and not having a green card could be very scary).
I urge and USC's that are filing this type of claim to be very careful and do not act out of emotion and look long and hard over the course of your marriage and think to decide weather you have been "duped". Do some immigrants come here and abuse the system...yes are they caught? sometimes yes and sometimes no.
An example I use to work in a bar where a lot of IO's used to come in and relax, there was a story I overheard them talking about, A lady from Russia moved here 18 years ago and recently was just sent back to Russia, why? Fraud at the inception of marriage for the purpose to gain immigration benefits, she was put in jail and put on the next full plane back to Russia. 18 years well it took awhile and it is not like I heard the story you could hear the whispers around the table. The system works
Also I ask if you know of any human smuggling or any time of activity that involves human trafficking to notify ICE ASAP, call you local office or 1 866 DHS 2 ICE. Help stop this from happening.
One last thing USC's the chances of being taken to federal court under the I864 are very small, this form is used in a few states as a bar for spousal support. But always remember it takes a special degree or permit to practice law on the federal level, one case out of Florida Federal Court (Winters v Winters) rejected the federal case stating that these type of cases belong on the state court level.
I hope this is helpful to people:)
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Brian1967## got a reaction from Unidentified in Reporting Fraud to USCIS
Well I thought I would start this topic it is something new and I want to tell folks there is are several different way to report fraud to USCIS. In my long road over the past several months I have some information I wanted to pass on.
If the USC spouse thinks they are a victim of marriage fraud or their immigrant spouse entered into a shame marriage for the sole purpose of gaining immigration benefits. Please make a info pass appointment, when you arrive ask to speak to the on duty FDNS officer.
FDNS.......Fraud Detection & National Security Directorate. This is the Department within USCIS that will investigate individual marriage fraud/ visa fraud cases/ false VAWA claims.
This department is within USCIS, that several years ago was "upgraded" to the directorate level in order to combat small scale fraud within the system, the FDNS does not conduct interviews for green cards, that is for the IO's in each office, what FDNS will do is work with the IO's and ICE and any DHS officers and local law enforcement. To give you a hint how overwhelmed the system is the are three officers assigned to the South Texas Area ( this line is from Del Rio all the way to Houston almost) these officers function with a crushing workload . They will come down and listen to what you have to say and take notes.
Please note do not waste people's time with a bitterness and just go in there and vent...take PROOF, from a outside source or from the police or a court official, something someone can pick up the phone and confirm.
After you see this officer, they either will or will not have a investigation, you will never know, if proof is provided they will look into it. Also, to some folks it is like I told them why will they not come and get my ex spouse and send her home? There is not a immigrant bus that runs around and knocks on doors and the USCIS driver says "Okay, time to go home" It can take up to a year to deport/remove your immigrant ex-spouse (with appeals).
Also do not call back and ask for a update according to the Privacy Act of 1974 they are not allowed to discuss your ex spouses case with you, her green card is not between you, her and the government it is between her and the government, it is the immigrant's green card.
A bad or rough marriage that is terminated does not mean you are a victim of fraud, it means there was a bad marriage, USC's please ALWAYS think, your spouse is under a horrible amount of strain, make new friends, no family, maybe lost expectations, twisted thinking, and to top it all off you are fighting with the person you depend on for support, PLEASE I ask all USC's if your marriage is in trouble or a divorce is filed please, get to a marriage consular ASAP. (if they will go) (even if your spouse is cheating the marriage can still be saved in my thoughts).
Reporting a false VAWA claim or blocking a false VAWA claim is very hard but can be done. Once again you must have proof. If there is a police report written that shows you the USC as the aggressive party more than likely there is a claim. Always remember there is many different kinds of abuse out there some immigrant spouse's here have been victims of physical abuse, and there is just cause for the claim, some it is mental abuse or emotional abuse. Please, note to any USC that files with USCIS to block these claims they are not criminal complaints against you, it is a administrative process, if it was criminal you could face the accuser in a court of law (this is a constitutional right), which is why USCIS makes this administrative in nature. I am sure there are many spouses that will back up the claim a VAWA process is not easy and it takes a LONG time to do and the immigrant is in "limbo", is the system abused...yes but claims take so long to adjudicate that VAWA IO's look for ANY proof of fraud or a false claim, I think most of the lady's on VAWA part 4 will say almost all of them get some kind of RFE. IMHO some of the women are abused simply because their USC spouse does not want to get them a green card to keep control (USC please, even of the marriage is rough, get the green card, your immigrant spouse should be allowed a stable safe environment to live and not having a green card could be very scary).
I urge and USC's that are filing this type of claim to be very careful and do not act out of emotion and look long and hard over the course of your marriage and think to decide weather you have been "duped". Do some immigrants come here and abuse the system...yes are they caught? sometimes yes and sometimes no.
An example I use to work in a bar where a lot of IO's used to come in and relax, there was a story I overheard them talking about, A lady from Russia moved here 18 years ago and recently was just sent back to Russia, why? Fraud at the inception of marriage for the purpose to gain immigration benefits, she was put in jail and put on the next full plane back to Russia. 18 years well it took awhile and it is not like I heard the story you could hear the whispers around the table. The system works
Also I ask if you know of any human smuggling or any time of activity that involves human trafficking to notify ICE ASAP, call you local office or 1 866 DHS 2 ICE. Help stop this from happening.
One last thing USC's the chances of being taken to federal court under the I864 are very small, this form is used in a few states as a bar for spousal support. But always remember it takes a special degree or permit to practice law on the federal level, one case out of Florida Federal Court (Winters v Winters) rejected the federal case stating that these type of cases belong on the state court level.
I hope this is helpful to people:)
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Brian1967## got a reaction from TwoChickies in Reporting Fraud to USCIS
Well I thought I would start this topic it is something new and I want to tell folks there is are several different way to report fraud to USCIS. In my long road over the past several months I have some information I wanted to pass on.
If the USC spouse thinks they are a victim of marriage fraud or their immigrant spouse entered into a shame marriage for the sole purpose of gaining immigration benefits. Please make a info pass appointment, when you arrive ask to speak to the on duty FDNS officer.
FDNS.......Fraud Detection & National Security Directorate. This is the Department within USCIS that will investigate individual marriage fraud/ visa fraud cases/ false VAWA claims.
This department is within USCIS, that several years ago was "upgraded" to the directorate level in order to combat small scale fraud within the system, the FDNS does not conduct interviews for green cards, that is for the IO's in each office, what FDNS will do is work with the IO's and ICE and any DHS officers and local law enforcement. To give you a hint how overwhelmed the system is the are three officers assigned to the South Texas Area ( this line is from Del Rio all the way to Houston almost) these officers function with a crushing workload . They will come down and listen to what you have to say and take notes.
Please note do not waste people's time with a bitterness and just go in there and vent...take PROOF, from a outside source or from the police or a court official, something someone can pick up the phone and confirm.
After you see this officer, they either will or will not have a investigation, you will never know, if proof is provided they will look into it. Also, to some folks it is like I told them why will they not come and get my ex spouse and send her home? There is not a immigrant bus that runs around and knocks on doors and the USCIS driver says "Okay, time to go home" It can take up to a year to deport/remove your immigrant ex-spouse (with appeals).
Also do not call back and ask for a update according to the Privacy Act of 1974 they are not allowed to discuss your ex spouses case with you, her green card is not between you, her and the government it is between her and the government, it is the immigrant's green card.
A bad or rough marriage that is terminated does not mean you are a victim of fraud, it means there was a bad marriage, USC's please ALWAYS think, your spouse is under a horrible amount of strain, make new friends, no family, maybe lost expectations, twisted thinking, and to top it all off you are fighting with the person you depend on for support, PLEASE I ask all USC's if your marriage is in trouble or a divorce is filed please, get to a marriage consular ASAP. (if they will go) (even if your spouse is cheating the marriage can still be saved in my thoughts).
Reporting a false VAWA claim or blocking a false VAWA claim is very hard but can be done. Once again you must have proof. If there is a police report written that shows you the USC as the aggressive party more than likely there is a claim. Always remember there is many different kinds of abuse out there some immigrant spouse's here have been victims of physical abuse, and there is just cause for the claim, some it is mental abuse or emotional abuse. Please, note to any USC that files with USCIS to block these claims they are not criminal complaints against you, it is a administrative process, if it was criminal you could face the accuser in a court of law (this is a constitutional right), which is why USCIS makes this administrative in nature. I am sure there are many spouses that will back up the claim a VAWA process is not easy and it takes a LONG time to do and the immigrant is in "limbo", is the system abused...yes but claims take so long to adjudicate that VAWA IO's look for ANY proof of fraud or a false claim, I think most of the lady's on VAWA part 4 will say almost all of them get some kind of RFE. IMHO some of the women are abused simply because their USC spouse does not want to get them a green card to keep control (USC please, even of the marriage is rough, get the green card, your immigrant spouse should be allowed a stable safe environment to live and not having a green card could be very scary).
I urge and USC's that are filing this type of claim to be very careful and do not act out of emotion and look long and hard over the course of your marriage and think to decide weather you have been "duped". Do some immigrants come here and abuse the system...yes are they caught? sometimes yes and sometimes no.
An example I use to work in a bar where a lot of IO's used to come in and relax, there was a story I overheard them talking about, A lady from Russia moved here 18 years ago and recently was just sent back to Russia, why? Fraud at the inception of marriage for the purpose to gain immigration benefits, she was put in jail and put on the next full plane back to Russia. 18 years well it took awhile and it is not like I heard the story you could hear the whispers around the table. The system works
Also I ask if you know of any human smuggling or any time of activity that involves human trafficking to notify ICE ASAP, call you local office or 1 866 DHS 2 ICE. Help stop this from happening.
One last thing USC's the chances of being taken to federal court under the I864 are very small, this form is used in a few states as a bar for spousal support. But always remember it takes a special degree or permit to practice law on the federal level, one case out of Florida Federal Court (Winters v Winters) rejected the federal case stating that these type of cases belong on the state court level.
I hope this is helpful to people:)
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Brian1967## got a reaction from PallasAthena in Reporting Fraud to USCIS
Well I thought I would start this topic it is something new and I want to tell folks there is are several different way to report fraud to USCIS. In my long road over the past several months I have some information I wanted to pass on.
If the USC spouse thinks they are a victim of marriage fraud or their immigrant spouse entered into a shame marriage for the sole purpose of gaining immigration benefits. Please make a info pass appointment, when you arrive ask to speak to the on duty FDNS officer.
FDNS.......Fraud Detection & National Security Directorate. This is the Department within USCIS that will investigate individual marriage fraud/ visa fraud cases/ false VAWA claims.
This department is within USCIS, that several years ago was "upgraded" to the directorate level in order to combat small scale fraud within the system, the FDNS does not conduct interviews for green cards, that is for the IO's in each office, what FDNS will do is work with the IO's and ICE and any DHS officers and local law enforcement. To give you a hint how overwhelmed the system is the are three officers assigned to the South Texas Area ( this line is from Del Rio all the way to Houston almost) these officers function with a crushing workload . They will come down and listen to what you have to say and take notes.
Please note do not waste people's time with a bitterness and just go in there and vent...take PROOF, from a outside source or from the police or a court official, something someone can pick up the phone and confirm.
After you see this officer, they either will or will not have a investigation, you will never know, if proof is provided they will look into it. Also, to some folks it is like I told them why will they not come and get my ex spouse and send her home? There is not a immigrant bus that runs around and knocks on doors and the USCIS driver says "Okay, time to go home" It can take up to a year to deport/remove your immigrant ex-spouse (with appeals).
Also do not call back and ask for a update according to the Privacy Act of 1974 they are not allowed to discuss your ex spouses case with you, her green card is not between you, her and the government it is between her and the government, it is the immigrant's green card.
A bad or rough marriage that is terminated does not mean you are a victim of fraud, it means there was a bad marriage, USC's please ALWAYS think, your spouse is under a horrible amount of strain, make new friends, no family, maybe lost expectations, twisted thinking, and to top it all off you are fighting with the person you depend on for support, PLEASE I ask all USC's if your marriage is in trouble or a divorce is filed please, get to a marriage consular ASAP. (if they will go) (even if your spouse is cheating the marriage can still be saved in my thoughts).
Reporting a false VAWA claim or blocking a false VAWA claim is very hard but can be done. Once again you must have proof. If there is a police report written that shows you the USC as the aggressive party more than likely there is a claim. Always remember there is many different kinds of abuse out there some immigrant spouse's here have been victims of physical abuse, and there is just cause for the claim, some it is mental abuse or emotional abuse. Please, note to any USC that files with USCIS to block these claims they are not criminal complaints against you, it is a administrative process, if it was criminal you could face the accuser in a court of law (this is a constitutional right), which is why USCIS makes this administrative in nature. I am sure there are many spouses that will back up the claim a VAWA process is not easy and it takes a LONG time to do and the immigrant is in "limbo", is the system abused...yes but claims take so long to adjudicate that VAWA IO's look for ANY proof of fraud or a false claim, I think most of the lady's on VAWA part 4 will say almost all of them get some kind of RFE. IMHO some of the women are abused simply because their USC spouse does not want to get them a green card to keep control (USC please, even of the marriage is rough, get the green card, your immigrant spouse should be allowed a stable safe environment to live and not having a green card could be very scary).
I urge and USC's that are filing this type of claim to be very careful and do not act out of emotion and look long and hard over the course of your marriage and think to decide weather you have been "duped". Do some immigrants come here and abuse the system...yes are they caught? sometimes yes and sometimes no.
An example I use to work in a bar where a lot of IO's used to come in and relax, there was a story I overheard them talking about, A lady from Russia moved here 18 years ago and recently was just sent back to Russia, why? Fraud at the inception of marriage for the purpose to gain immigration benefits, she was put in jail and put on the next full plane back to Russia. 18 years well it took awhile and it is not like I heard the story you could hear the whispers around the table. The system works
Also I ask if you know of any human smuggling or any time of activity that involves human trafficking to notify ICE ASAP, call you local office or 1 866 DHS 2 ICE. Help stop this from happening.
One last thing USC's the chances of being taken to federal court under the I864 are very small, this form is used in a few states as a bar for spousal support. But always remember it takes a special degree or permit to practice law on the federal level, one case out of Florida Federal Court (Winters v Winters) rejected the federal case stating that these type of cases belong on the state court level.
I hope this is helpful to people:)
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Brian1967## got a reaction from Virtuous45 in Reporting Fraud to USCIS
Well I thought I would start this topic it is something new and I want to tell folks there is are several different way to report fraud to USCIS. In my long road over the past several months I have some information I wanted to pass on.
If the USC spouse thinks they are a victim of marriage fraud or their immigrant spouse entered into a shame marriage for the sole purpose of gaining immigration benefits. Please make a info pass appointment, when you arrive ask to speak to the on duty FDNS officer.
FDNS.......Fraud Detection & National Security Directorate. This is the Department within USCIS that will investigate individual marriage fraud/ visa fraud cases/ false VAWA claims.
This department is within USCIS, that several years ago was "upgraded" to the directorate level in order to combat small scale fraud within the system, the FDNS does not conduct interviews for green cards, that is for the IO's in each office, what FDNS will do is work with the IO's and ICE and any DHS officers and local law enforcement. To give you a hint how overwhelmed the system is the are three officers assigned to the South Texas Area ( this line is from Del Rio all the way to Houston almost) these officers function with a crushing workload . They will come down and listen to what you have to say and take notes.
Please note do not waste people's time with a bitterness and just go in there and vent...take PROOF, from a outside source or from the police or a court official, something someone can pick up the phone and confirm.
After you see this officer, they either will or will not have a investigation, you will never know, if proof is provided they will look into it. Also, to some folks it is like I told them why will they not come and get my ex spouse and send her home? There is not a immigrant bus that runs around and knocks on doors and the USCIS driver says "Okay, time to go home" It can take up to a year to deport/remove your immigrant ex-spouse (with appeals).
Also do not call back and ask for a update according to the Privacy Act of 1974 they are not allowed to discuss your ex spouses case with you, her green card is not between you, her and the government it is between her and the government, it is the immigrant's green card.
A bad or rough marriage that is terminated does not mean you are a victim of fraud, it means there was a bad marriage, USC's please ALWAYS think, your spouse is under a horrible amount of strain, make new friends, no family, maybe lost expectations, twisted thinking, and to top it all off you are fighting with the person you depend on for support, PLEASE I ask all USC's if your marriage is in trouble or a divorce is filed please, get to a marriage consular ASAP. (if they will go) (even if your spouse is cheating the marriage can still be saved in my thoughts).
Reporting a false VAWA claim or blocking a false VAWA claim is very hard but can be done. Once again you must have proof. If there is a police report written that shows you the USC as the aggressive party more than likely there is a claim. Always remember there is many different kinds of abuse out there some immigrant spouse's here have been victims of physical abuse, and there is just cause for the claim, some it is mental abuse or emotional abuse. Please, note to any USC that files with USCIS to block these claims they are not criminal complaints against you, it is a administrative process, if it was criminal you could face the accuser in a court of law (this is a constitutional right), which is why USCIS makes this administrative in nature. I am sure there are many spouses that will back up the claim a VAWA process is not easy and it takes a LONG time to do and the immigrant is in "limbo", is the system abused...yes but claims take so long to adjudicate that VAWA IO's look for ANY proof of fraud or a false claim, I think most of the lady's on VAWA part 4 will say almost all of them get some kind of RFE. IMHO some of the women are abused simply because their USC spouse does not want to get them a green card to keep control (USC please, even of the marriage is rough, get the green card, your immigrant spouse should be allowed a stable safe environment to live and not having a green card could be very scary).
I urge and USC's that are filing this type of claim to be very careful and do not act out of emotion and look long and hard over the course of your marriage and think to decide weather you have been "duped". Do some immigrants come here and abuse the system...yes are they caught? sometimes yes and sometimes no.
An example I use to work in a bar where a lot of IO's used to come in and relax, there was a story I overheard them talking about, A lady from Russia moved here 18 years ago and recently was just sent back to Russia, why? Fraud at the inception of marriage for the purpose to gain immigration benefits, she was put in jail and put on the next full plane back to Russia. 18 years well it took awhile and it is not like I heard the story you could hear the whispers around the table. The system works
Also I ask if you know of any human smuggling or any time of activity that involves human trafficking to notify ICE ASAP, call you local office or 1 866 DHS 2 ICE. Help stop this from happening.
One last thing USC's the chances of being taken to federal court under the I864 are very small, this form is used in a few states as a bar for spousal support. But always remember it takes a special degree or permit to practice law on the federal level, one case out of Florida Federal Court (Winters v Winters) rejected the federal case stating that these type of cases belong on the state court level.
I hope this is helpful to people:)
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Brian1967## got a reaction from Caryh in No more justice in America
Op, have you tried Catholic Charities or another non profit group? If you contact them they might be able to help or get you in the right direction.
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Brian1967## got a reaction from del-2-5-2014 in No more justice in America
OP the facts are kind of like what Capri said unless it is reported to ICE I think not to much will happen however when she tries to get 10 year card this WILL come up, I found out thru checking here in Texas that even if your immigrant spouse is not charged there is a way for USCIS to find out even if you are mentioned on a report for just about anything, but once again someone has to pick up the phone, here in Texas my ex spouse from Ukraine also commited DV and was never charged but it can still be a deportable offense under bad moral character. Get a attorney and put your side of the story together and BOTH of you go to USCIS together, here in Texas a knife is a felony DV charge and could be seen as felony assult, but then again this is Texas you sneeze on your wife you can get a DV charge pressed on you, if your a man. Be careful and stick to your guns and it will work out for the better. My prayers are with you
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Brian1967## got a reaction from anajnic in green card deny
All I can say is......things that make you go hummmmmm.....you lied once, good luck getting getting out from under that lie, USCIS never forgets almost like a elephant. I just saying, lie to USCIS, the courts, or the police and you might be in a hole you cannot get out of. Bona fide marriage or not.
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Brian1967## got a reaction from Karee in VAWA Fraud and the end of the road
Well here ends the long road I had third meeting with a fraud officer here:) The person seemed like a good officer (the card said "Investigator National Security" Was at the local USCIS office, I feel very blessed that I was able to talk to a person three times considering I had no A number to start with, I think I had meetings with someone that really cared about the situation I was in, They were very polite and quick to help I submitted evidence all three times (police reports of her domestic abuse, proof she lied under oath to get a false Order of protection, False Restraining Order, statements about her abuse of me and my son) I was told "there is a whole unit that deals with her claim, they will get all this evidence you have my word, I will make sure it gets in the file" I hope that it makes it into the file at our second meeting they said "we will recall the file and I will personally place these papers in her file" I do HONESTLY hope they will keep there word, their last parting words to me were "there is fraud all over the system, in I-751's, I-360, and in the VAWA system itself. We will make sure your stuff gets to the right investigator "up north". They were very encouraging and helpful through the entire process even the clerks at the info pass desk that seemed to be as smart as door lock, (not very helpful ) The folks upstairs were great all three times we met, I am still shocked they saw me three times. But they would not have if they thought I was lying or a bitter ex spouse, or at least that is my thought.
And so ends the journey I loved my wife more than my own life, I was defraud, accused of abuse, my reputation at work_ has been effected and I have lost my faith in people I guess to some degree I have found that Her claim is based on fraud statements and Lies and I think the folks at USCIS see the same even though they say " it just is what it is" " we take a look at both sides" and things like" it all depends on the evidence" and yes it looks like she did give false statements to the court they will call and verify if they want to, you gave great info. "Now you need to have faith in the system and let the system work"
Now I am left with the thoughts, I am much wiser and smarter, and will not be so blinded by LOVE, would I do it again ...yes...I just know to be more careful Now I am also thinking how may I help others with what I have learned, how to help someone else, so they will not be in my shoes? I do not believe god gives me things I cannot handle and this was no exception to his rule. I want to thank everyone...SandraJ, Capri...your the best...a very public THANK YOU, and to the rest THANK YOU also some of you helped save a life in December last year. Thanks, she will not be charged on domestic violence, but was sent to the grand jury, I no longer have the I864 around my neck, she can never come after me again, and she can never try to press charges on me for the rest of her life or mine. I have learned much and met some really good people. Thanks Everyone
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Brian1967## got a reaction from MedRoni in VAWA Fraud and the end of the road
Well here ends the long road I had third meeting with a fraud officer here:) The person seemed like a good officer (the card said "Investigator National Security" Was at the local USCIS office, I feel very blessed that I was able to talk to a person three times considering I had no A number to start with, I think I had meetings with someone that really cared about the situation I was in, They were very polite and quick to help I submitted evidence all three times (police reports of her domestic abuse, proof she lied under oath to get a false Order of protection, False Restraining Order, statements about her abuse of me and my son) I was told "there is a whole unit that deals with her claim, they will get all this evidence you have my word, I will make sure it gets in the file" I hope that it makes it into the file at our second meeting they said "we will recall the file and I will personally place these papers in her file" I do HONESTLY hope they will keep there word, their last parting words to me were "there is fraud all over the system, in I-751's, I-360, and in the VAWA system itself. We will make sure your stuff gets to the right investigator "up north". They were very encouraging and helpful through the entire process even the clerks at the info pass desk that seemed to be as smart as door lock, (not very helpful ) The folks upstairs were great all three times we met, I am still shocked they saw me three times. But they would not have if they thought I was lying or a bitter ex spouse, or at least that is my thought.
And so ends the journey I loved my wife more than my own life, I was defraud, accused of abuse, my reputation at work_ has been effected and I have lost my faith in people I guess to some degree I have found that Her claim is based on fraud statements and Lies and I think the folks at USCIS see the same even though they say " it just is what it is" " we take a look at both sides" and things like" it all depends on the evidence" and yes it looks like she did give false statements to the court they will call and verify if they want to, you gave great info. "Now you need to have faith in the system and let the system work"
Now I am left with the thoughts, I am much wiser and smarter, and will not be so blinded by LOVE, would I do it again ...yes...I just know to be more careful Now I am also thinking how may I help others with what I have learned, how to help someone else, so they will not be in my shoes? I do not believe god gives me things I cannot handle and this was no exception to his rule. I want to thank everyone...SandraJ, Capri...your the best...a very public THANK YOU, and to the rest THANK YOU also some of you helped save a life in December last year. Thanks, she will not be charged on domestic violence, but was sent to the grand jury, I no longer have the I864 around my neck, she can never come after me again, and she can never try to press charges on me for the rest of her life or mine. I have learned much and met some really good people. Thanks Everyone
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Brian1967## got a reaction from TBoneTX in VAWA Fraud and the end of the road
Well here ends the long road I had third meeting with a fraud officer here:) The person seemed like a good officer (the card said "Investigator National Security" Was at the local USCIS office, I feel very blessed that I was able to talk to a person three times considering I had no A number to start with, I think I had meetings with someone that really cared about the situation I was in, They were very polite and quick to help I submitted evidence all three times (police reports of her domestic abuse, proof she lied under oath to get a false Order of protection, False Restraining Order, statements about her abuse of me and my son) I was told "there is a whole unit that deals with her claim, they will get all this evidence you have my word, I will make sure it gets in the file" I hope that it makes it into the file at our second meeting they said "we will recall the file and I will personally place these papers in her file" I do HONESTLY hope they will keep there word, their last parting words to me were "there is fraud all over the system, in I-751's, I-360, and in the VAWA system itself. We will make sure your stuff gets to the right investigator "up north". They were very encouraging and helpful through the entire process even the clerks at the info pass desk that seemed to be as smart as door lock, (not very helpful ) The folks upstairs were great all three times we met, I am still shocked they saw me three times. But they would not have if they thought I was lying or a bitter ex spouse, or at least that is my thought.
And so ends the journey I loved my wife more than my own life, I was defraud, accused of abuse, my reputation at work_ has been effected and I have lost my faith in people I guess to some degree I have found that Her claim is based on fraud statements and Lies and I think the folks at USCIS see the same even though they say " it just is what it is" " we take a look at both sides" and things like" it all depends on the evidence" and yes it looks like she did give false statements to the court they will call and verify if they want to, you gave great info. "Now you need to have faith in the system and let the system work"
Now I am left with the thoughts, I am much wiser and smarter, and will not be so blinded by LOVE, would I do it again ...yes...I just know to be more careful Now I am also thinking how may I help others with what I have learned, how to help someone else, so they will not be in my shoes? I do not believe god gives me things I cannot handle and this was no exception to his rule. I want to thank everyone...SandraJ, Capri...your the best...a very public THANK YOU, and to the rest THANK YOU also some of you helped save a life in December last year. Thanks, she will not be charged on domestic violence, but was sent to the grand jury, I no longer have the I864 around my neck, she can never come after me again, and she can never try to press charges on me for the rest of her life or mine. I have learned much and met some really good people. Thanks Everyone
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Brian1967## got a reaction from Azure30 in VAWA Fraud and the end of the road
Well here ends the long road I had third meeting with a fraud officer here:) The person seemed like a good officer (the card said "Investigator National Security" Was at the local USCIS office, I feel very blessed that I was able to talk to a person three times considering I had no A number to start with, I think I had meetings with someone that really cared about the situation I was in, They were very polite and quick to help I submitted evidence all three times (police reports of her domestic abuse, proof she lied under oath to get a false Order of protection, False Restraining Order, statements about her abuse of me and my son) I was told "there is a whole unit that deals with her claim, they will get all this evidence you have my word, I will make sure it gets in the file" I hope that it makes it into the file at our second meeting they said "we will recall the file and I will personally place these papers in her file" I do HONESTLY hope they will keep there word, their last parting words to me were "there is fraud all over the system, in I-751's, I-360, and in the VAWA system itself. We will make sure your stuff gets to the right investigator "up north". They were very encouraging and helpful through the entire process even the clerks at the info pass desk that seemed to be as smart as door lock, (not very helpful ) The folks upstairs were great all three times we met, I am still shocked they saw me three times. But they would not have if they thought I was lying or a bitter ex spouse, or at least that is my thought.
And so ends the journey I loved my wife more than my own life, I was defraud, accused of abuse, my reputation at work_ has been effected and I have lost my faith in people I guess to some degree I have found that Her claim is based on fraud statements and Lies and I think the folks at USCIS see the same even though they say " it just is what it is" " we take a look at both sides" and things like" it all depends on the evidence" and yes it looks like she did give false statements to the court they will call and verify if they want to, you gave great info. "Now you need to have faith in the system and let the system work"
Now I am left with the thoughts, I am much wiser and smarter, and will not be so blinded by LOVE, would I do it again ...yes...I just know to be more careful Now I am also thinking how may I help others with what I have learned, how to help someone else, so they will not be in my shoes? I do not believe god gives me things I cannot handle and this was no exception to his rule. I want to thank everyone...SandraJ, Capri...your the best...a very public THANK YOU, and to the rest THANK YOU also some of you helped save a life in December last year. Thanks, she will not be charged on domestic violence, but was sent to the grand jury, I no longer have the I864 around my neck, she can never come after me again, and she can never try to press charges on me for the rest of her life or mine. I have learned much and met some really good people. Thanks Everyone