Is the term "illegal immigrant" a slur?

[Reba 2]

my husband had an idea last night that sounds quite appealing. He figures that if all these 11 million illegals are given amnesty and just handed a US citizenship, then all of us who have done immigration the legal way should sue the government for citizenship and refund of our processing fees. Afterall, why the hell should we have spent all that money and stress and time on doing it the legal way, when apparently doing things the illegal way is no longer illegal?

Class action anyone?

My question of course is are all 11 million going to be given amnesty, no matter their background or only a select bunch? Will they also have to go thru the background checks and whatnot as we have all done, or does the US government even care who these people are, other than future voters?

[Sister Fracas 5]

Ok....

Driving w/o a license = "undocumented driver"

Robbing a bank = "undocumented withdrawal"

Home invasion = "undocumented guest"

Stowaway = "undocumented passenger"

At the end of the day and no matter how is is dressed up "illegal" is illegal which means, to my mind, something that is done outstide the laws of that country.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

my husband had an idea last night that sounds quite appealing. He figures that if all these 11 million illegals are given amnesty and just handed a US citizenship, then all of us who have done immigration the legal way should sue the government for citizenship and refund of our processing fees. Afterall, why the hell should we have spent all that money and stress and time on doing it the legal way, when apparently doing things the illegal way is no longer illegal?

Class action anyone?

My question of course is are all 11 million going to be given amnesty, no matter their background or only a select bunch? Will they also have to go thru the background checks and whatnot as we have all done, or does the US government even care who these people are, other than future voters?

Depends on which bill ends up becomign law. By the Presidents proposal, every illegal who has had a job. By the 'compromise' that ended up going nowhere bill, every illegal whos been here >5 yrs who has had a job.

[Reba 2]

how will they know who has had a job if they're undocumented? There'd be no reliable way to trace it back, other than to ask them all "do you have a job?"

Bush should take some pointers from PM Harper. He's turfing out all the illegal Portuguese in Canada. No idea if he's also picking on other nationalities, it seems tho only the Portuguese are in the news.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

how will they know who has had a job if they're undocumented? There'd be no reliable way to trace it back, other than to ask them all "do you have a job?"

Bush should take some pointers from PM Harper. He's turfing out all the illegal Portuguese in Canada. No idea if he's also picking on other nationalities, it seems tho only the Portuguese are in the news.

Maybe Harper doesn't have to deal with an opposition party that wants illegal aliens to have a path to citizenship.

The only difference between Bush and the Democrats is Bush wants to peck them on the a$$, the Dems want to french kiss them right up the crack.

[Mirorgate 0]

Maybe Harper doesn't have to deal with an opposition party that wants illegal aliens to have a path to citizenship.

The only difference between Bush and the Democrats is Bush wants to peck them on the a$$, the Dems want to french kiss them right up the crack.

Awesome.. so the people that were voted into office, bow to the will of ppl that can't legally vote, and there fore have a voice in our political system.. because they may one day vote.... as in statistical avg of... 55%? yeah, that's pure genious right there.

"BILL N OPUS '08!"

[meauxna 15]

my husband had an idea last night that sounds quite appealing. He figures that if all these 11 million illegals are given amnesty and just handed a US citizenship, then all of us who have done immigration the legal way should sue the government for citizenship and refund of our processing fees. Afterall, why the hell should we have spent all that money and stress and time on doing it the legal way, when apparently doing things the illegal way is no longer illegal?

Class action anyone?

My question of course is are all 11 million going to be given amnesty, no matter their background or only a select bunch? Will they also have to go thru the background checks and whatnot as we have all done, or does the US government even care who these people are, other than future voters?

I've seen this misunderstanding promoted in the media.. Whatever happens to the illegals here in the US, NO ONE is getting a US passport handed to them.

As it stands now, if you snuck into the US (EWI/Endtered Without Inspection) you are 100% ineligible to Adjust Status.

Some of the solutions offered in Congress include giving EWIs legal status that can lead to Permanent Resident status (they'd go through all the regular checks here, just like we do and this would be AOS) and after 5 years of PR, they could *apply* for citizenship, just like we do.

Reading the paper would lead you to believe that the illegal just has to come out from under his rock and pick up his US passport and join the real world.

Not.

m

[pedroh 21]

lol so thats where they live?

but yea.. i think there's a lot of 'misunderstandings' concerning the new law

[Melo 1]

This whole discussion is absurd!!!! If someone does something that is illegal then it is right to address it as such... #####-footing around ain't gonna change anything. But I tell you I sure as heck do not understand this - reward those who enter illegally - but punish those who do things by the book; coz this whole process is nothing but hell!!! Politicians need to get real - boot out all who are illegal - be they Europeans (Western or Eastern), Latinos, Asians, Africans, Australians (if have I omitted anyone it is not intentional). Rewarding people for breaking the law is insanity - and then to discuss whether it is right to call someone who has broken the law to enter the country an illegal immigrant is even more ludicrous!!!

[Fandango 1,439]

This whole discussion is absurd!!!! If someone does something that is illegal then it is right to address it as such... #####-footing around ain't gonna change anything. But I tell you I sure as heck do not understand this - reward those who enter illegally - but punish those who do things by the book; coz this whole process is nothing but hell!!! Politicians need to get real - boot out all who are illegal - be they Europeans (Western or Eastern), Latinos, Asians, Africans, Australians (if have I omitted anyone it is not intentional). Rewarding people for breaking the law is insanity - and then to discuss whether it is right to call someone who has broken the law to enter the country an illegal immigrant is even more ludicrous!!!

BRAVO

[mikeize 0]

Why Plymouth Rock is not a good example.

Cause there was no INS at the time.

We had way more guns than the Indians.. wanna play cowboys and Mexicans now?

Well I've heard that there are plenty of spots along "our borders" where there is no INS at ANY time. These people are simply coming to "THE NEW WORLD", actually, it's kinda the old world for many of them...

And so to your other "point" that the ends justify the means, then I say this whole argument is moot, cuz the non-native born are gonna take over this continent once again, just like they did lo those many years ago. Those with historical perspective won't be able to keep from laughing at all the bitchin' and moanin' coming from all of those descendants of "illegal immigrants".

-mike

[Fischkoepfin 1]

Why Plymouth Rock is not a good example.

Cause there was no INS at the time.

We had way more guns than the Indians.. wanna play cowboys and Mexicans now?

Actually Plymouth Rock is an excellent example; the Pilgrims had a patent for Virginia not New England, and they knew that when they settled there. They also knew it was illegal, but they didn't care; so they started an illegal immigrant commune. Similar things can be said about the Puritans who had a patent for the right area but stole it from the office and took it to their colony because they knew the King would be pissed if he ever found out what they really thought. The Indians are not important in this context; they didn't mind the Pilgrims at all for the first few years...

The country was thus started by illegal immigrants and criminals.

[almaty 19]

Why Plymouth Rock is not a good example.

Cause there was no INS at the time.

We had way more guns than the Indians.. wanna play cowboys and Mexicans now?

Actually Plymouth Rock is an excellent example; the Pilgrims had a patent for Virginia not New England, and they knew that when they settled there. They also knew it was illegal, but they didn't care; so they started an illegal immigrant commune. Similar things can be said about the Puritans who had a patent for the right area but stole it from the office and took it to their colony because they knew the King would be pissed if he ever found out what they really thought. The Indians are not important in this context; they didn't mind the Pilgrims at all for the first few years...

The country was thus started by illegal immigrants and criminals.

left out failures and chopf##ks..

[Mirorgate 0]

Why Plymouth Rock is not a good example.

Cause there was no INS at the time.

We had way more guns than the Indians.. wanna play cowboys and Mexicans now?

Actually Plymouth Rock is an excellent example; the Pilgrims had a patent for Virginia not New England, and they knew that when they settled there. They also knew it was illegal, but they didn't care; so they started an illegal immigrant commune. Similar things can be said about the Puritans who had a patent for the right area but stole it from the office and took it to their colony because they knew the King would be pissed if he ever found out what they really thought. The Indians are not important in this context; they didn't mind the Pilgrims at all for the first few years...

The country was thus started by illegal immigrants and criminals.

left out failures and chopf##ks..

Yep.... I come from a well n good distributed family stock

[Artegal 1]

I am glad my wife has a visa and her "green card"--therefore she will never be labeled as "Legally-Challenged person of an Alternative Nationality."