income figures on form I-864 affidavit of support [merged threads]

[RABBITDANCE 2]

1 hour ago, appleblossom said:

Yes, you can use two addresses if you want. There’s just no need to, as the lovely people who’ve taken the time and trouble to respond to you have helpfully pointed out. It’ll be easier to just use your legal address for everything and not bother with your parents address. 

Thanks, but you aren't quite understanding my quesiton. My legal address cannot be changed and it cannot receive mail. That's the crux of the issue.  The legal address is what is used in credit checks, which I assume they do. The form asks specifically for "legal address" not "address where green card will be mailed"

[Crazy Cat 44,068]

13 minutes ago, RABBITDANCE said:

Thanks, but you aren't quite understanding my quesiton. My legal address cannot be changed and it cannot receive mail. That's the crux of the issue.  The legal address is what is used in credit checks, which I assume they do. The form asks specifically for "legal address" not "address where green card will be mailed"

I've never noticed the term "legal address" on a USCIS form.  Which form are you talking about?

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2 hours ago, RABBITDANCE said:

 green cards are not sent to PO boxes.

Not true.

 

USCIS uses 2 addresses:  "Mailing Address" and "Physical Address".

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[appleblossom 4,124]

1 hour ago, RABBITDANCE said:

The form asks specifically for "legal address" not "address where green card will be mailed"

 

Which form says 'legal address'? 

 

The form when you pay the green card fee only asks for 'current mailing address', and that's where it will be sent to, but it's not clear what stage of the process you're at or which form you're looking at.

[Boiler 47,201]

Sort of an aside but I have only lived at one location that had home delivery, I have to pay for my PO Box currently but have had free ones in the past. Now that is a subject.

 

I have had mainly to go through Contract Offices and the amount the USPS pay those operators is very small. Someone I know bought a property that was a Contract Office and declined to take the Contract on, a guaranteed loser. The other problem is that USPS Employees, Contract or Direct are supposed to go through background checks. I think Direct employees also Drug tests which I joke would exclude the majority where I am. I know they have major staffing issues.

 

I have never had problems with USCIS, they ask for both as has been mentioned, COSTCO yes, they ship UPS but usually handed over to USPS for the last bit. And COSTCO system will chuck out PO Boxes. Usually I can mention the POBOX1234 whatever in the address so the system does not pick it up but the USPS employee does.

 

The only other way is to track it and get to the USPS office before about 10.30 on the day of delivery before they send it back.

[RABBITDANCE 2]

 

On the form I-964 affidavit of support, Part 6, Sponsor's Employment and Income, it asks, in question 7 for "My current annual income".   The instructions for this question state, "Type or print your current individual, earned, or retirement annual income that you are using to meet the requirements of this affidavit and indicate the total in the space provided.  For this question I chose to enter only my ordinary pay.  I also get some frindge benefit income such as income that is forumala based for various reasons in addition to my fixed ordinary salary, but decided to keep it simple as they make no mention of those things and refer to the term "earned" income in the question.  So for exmple let's say I put here $100,000.

 

Then on question 12 it asks for "My current Annual Household Income (Total from all lines from part 6) and it says the total will be compared with the poverty guideliness.  Again I entered the same number, say $100,000 for example.  

 

I am not including rental property income as it has no option to provide that.  It does have an option for self-employment income but that's not what rentals typically are considered, and the IRS forms they want for self-employment do not match. I figured it does not matter as I'm making enough earned income to pass the test.

 

Finally, question 16a asks me to enter my most recent total income.  I use form 1040, not 1040EZ.  The PDF of instructions for this item say "Type or fill in the most recent tax year and your total income for that most recent tax year."  The instructions also state, "for the purpose of this affidavit, the line for Total Income on IRS Forms 1040  and 1040A will be considered when determining income.  The instructions also specify a different figure to use for 1040EZ, but that does not apply to me as I don't use that form.

 

The potential problem I see here is my total income, which comes from line 9 on 2024 Form 1040, is extremely low due to FEIE (Foreigner Earned Income Exclusion) I assume, which lowers my "Total Tax".  It comes to less than 25,000.

 

Is this going to disqualify me, even though I have an annual income of at least 100,000?  

 

Or is this a common situation and nothing to worry about?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RABBITDANCE 2]

On 6/8/2025 at 10:38 PM, pushbrk said:

That mail from USCIS cannot be sent to a PO Box, hasn't been true for at least a couple decades, but no problem to have a physical address and a mailing address.

Thanks.  Actually the issue I'm really wondering about is the evidence of domicile status in the US question on the affidavit of support.  The domicile I use has plenty of evidence, including my driver's license showing that address. However, since it's not an address that can accept mail, I need to use a different address as my phyical and mailing address for where the green card will be delivered.  One address does not accept mail and is used for credit score, etc. The other would accept mail but is not my legal address.  

[RABBITDANCE 2]

2 hours ago, Crazy Cat said:

I've never noticed the term "legal address" on a USCIS form.  Which form are you talking about?

Well I'm actually referring to the section of the USCIS affidavit of support where it asks for evidence of domicile in the US, despite my having filled out the German physical and Germain mailing addesses where I live which are the same.  But my domicile address in the US cannot receive mail.  I am using that address as my "legal address" for example what is reported to banks as my legal address.  I'm using a different valid physical and mailing address in the US to have the green card sent to.  So I am just thinking ahead as to what problems this might cause, when the check my credit report or my domicile evidence submission, and find the address is in one city and they see my green card going to a different mailing address.

[RABBITDANCE 2]

1 hour ago, appleblossom said:

 

Which form says 'legal address'? 

 

The form when you pay the green card fee only asks for 'current mailing address', and that's where it will be sent to, but it's not clear what stage of the process you're at or which form you're looking at.

I'm looking at the affidavit of support.  I put my mailing address as my Germany address as we're being processed in Germany consulate having been transfered there.  I will supply evidence of doicle in the US using my US address because the form asks me to provide US domicile evidnece attachmetns. This domicle address directly conflicts with the US mailing address where I need to send the green card.  I assume (but am not sure) that it's ok for my mailing address on this fomr to be a Germany address, for my US domicile address to be the one on my US driver's license and where I'm registered to vote, and finally a third mailing address for where my green card goes which I assume will be asked on a differetn form in the process. I'm just freaking out a bit because of all the different addresses I have and trying to anticipate problems.  Sorry for any lack of clarity in my question.

[RABBITDANCE 2]

Is it ok to put the "daytime phone number' of the petiioner and the beneficiary as the German cell phone numbers we use? The form doesn't any room to add country code or way to indicat which country the numbers are in.  Vice versa, what if I prefer them to call my US phone even though I live in Germany? Whoever desinged this form maybe had a lapse and dint' think to add a box for country code, so how do they call anyone if they dont' know what country the phone number is in?

 

 

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[appleblossom 4,124]

56 minutes ago, RABBITDANCE said:

I'm looking at the affidavit of support.  I put my mailing address as my Germany address as we're being processed in Germany consulate having been transfered there.  I will supply evidence of doicle in the US using my US address because the form asks me to provide US domicile evidnece attachmetns. This domicle address directly conflicts with the US mailing address where I need to send the green card.  I assume (but am not sure) that it's ok for my mailing address on this fomr to be a Germany address, for my US domicile address to be the one on my US driver's license and where I'm registered to vote, and finally a third mailing address for where my green card goes which I assume will be asked on a differetn form in the process. I'm just freaking out a bit because of all the different addresses I have and trying to anticipate problems.  Sorry for any lack of clarity in my question.

 

It's no problem but I think you're worrying unnecessarily and making it more complicated than it needs to be. 

 

The AoS form doesn't ask you for a legal address so not sure where you're reading that? If you currently live in Germany then yes, that's your mailing address and your physical address so you'd just put that. Domicile you can just use the address you'll be moving to together with proof you are making plans to move (i.e. researching shipping property or pets, talking to realtors, job hunting, etc). It doesn't matter if it doesn't match up with where you want the green card sending to.

 

For the green card it doesn't matter now, I put a hotel address on my DS-260 as I had no idea where I'd be living if I was granted the visa. Then I just updated it when I paid the green card fee and also when I arrived in the US (immigration officer asked me where I wanted the GC sent to, I had the address of our rental printed out ready to hand over). 

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[Crazy Cat 44,068]

56 minutes ago, RABBITDANCE said:

I'm looking at the affidavit of support.

So am I.  I see "mailing address" and "physical address".....no "legal address".  Terminology is important in immigration.  Good luck on the rest of your journey. 

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On 6/12/2025 at 11:00 AM, RABBITDANCE said:

Is it ok to put the "daytime phone number' of the petiioner and the beneficiary as the German cell phone numbers we use? The form doesn't any room to add country code or way to indicat which country the numbers are in.  Vice versa, what if I prefer them to call my US phone even though I live in Germany? Whoever desinged this form maybe had a lapse and dint' think to add a box for country code, so how do they call anyone if they dont' know what country the phone number is in?

 

 

They didn’t have a lapse, they’re asking for your daytime phone number, so that’s what you give them. Whichever number is best to contact you on.
 

You simply add the country code i.e. mine was +44 7790 xxxxxx. If it doesn’t fit, make the font smaller or write smaller.