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5 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

 

I would caution against travelling out of the US in your present state - that is, to say with an incorrectly issued 10yr card and an I-751 extension letter. 

 

The extension letter is only valid when accompanying an expired 2 year card.

By itself it is useless - for API, for boarding, for entry, for anything.

The 10 year card, when run - possibly at API/check in but definitely at the border - should show your correct status, which is that of a permanent resident with an expired 2 year card with a pending I-751...buuuuuuut you would be presenting an apparently valid & unexpired 10 year card, without a pending I-90........

You see what I am getting at here? It could open a whole can of messy worms for you to have to explain and may take a little while. Take it from me, visiting secondary every time sucks. 

Could it work? Possibly. Is there massive potential for being stuck overseas and having to pay 600 bucks for a boarding foil? Absolutely. Best not to take chances. 

 

 

Thankfully, there is an easy(ish) solution, which is an I-551 stamp in your passport, which negates the need for the extension letter. Get an appointment made, and when you have an appointment, take along the 10 year card, the denied I-90, and your new receipt/extension, explain the situation, and they will hook you up. Unfortunately this needs to be renewed every 12 months, but better than the alternative. 

Would you suggest trying to get an ADIT stamp?? 

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August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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38 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

 

I would caution against travelling out of the US in your present state - that is, to say with an incorrectly issued 10yr card and an I-751 extension letter. 

 

The extension letter is only valid when accompanying an expired 2 year card.

By itself it is useless - for API, for boarding, for entry, for anything.

The 10 year card, when run - possibly at API/check in but definitely at the border - should show your correct status, which is that of a permanent resident with an expired 2 year card with a pending I-751...buuuuuuut you would be presenting an apparently valid & unexpired 10 year card, without a pending I-90........

You see what I am getting at here? It could open a whole can of messy worms for you to have to explain and may take a little while. Take it from me, visiting secondary every time sucks. 

Could it work? Possibly. Is there massive potential for being stuck overseas and having to pay 600 bucks for a boarding foil? Absolutely. Best not to take chances. 

 

 

Thankfully, there is an easy(ish) solution, which is an I-551 stamp in your passport, which negates the need for the extension letter. Get an appointment made, and when you have an appointment, take along the 10 year card, the denied I-90, and your new receipt/extension, explain the situation, and they will hook you up. Unfortunately this needs to be renewed every 12 months, but better than the alternative. 

Thanks for this incredible piece of advice. We will get this I 551 stamp done asap.. 

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46 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

 

I would caution against travelling out of the US in your present state - that is, to say with an incorrectly issued 10yr card and an I-751 extension letter. 

 

The extension letter is only valid when accompanying an expired 2 year card.

By itself it is useless - for API, for boarding, for entry, for anything.

The 10 year card, when run - possibly at API/check in but definitely at the border - should show your correct status, which is that of a permanent resident with an expired 2 year card with a pending I-751...buuuuuuut you would be presenting an apparently valid & unexpired 10 year card, without a pending I-90........

You see what I am getting at here? It could open a whole can of messy worms for you to have to explain and may take a little while. Take it from me, visiting secondary every time sucks. 

Could it work? Possibly. Is there massive potential for being stuck overseas and having to pay 600 bucks for a boarding foil? Absolutely. Best not to take chances. 

 

 

Thankfully, there is an easy(ish) solution, which is an I-551 stamp in your passport, which negates the need for the extension letter. Get an appointment made, and when you have an appointment, take along the 10 year card, the denied I-90, and your new receipt/extension, explain the situation, and they will hook you up. Unfortunately this needs to be renewed every 12 months, but better than the alternative. 

What would the adit stamp say.. that this stamp is valid for travel and entry within a one year period?

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41 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Would you suggest trying to get an ADIT stamp?? 

I did....in the last paragraph.

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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5 minutes ago, sudden said:

What would the adit stamp say.. that this stamp is valid for travel and entry within a one year period?

 

No. 

It looks like this (I won't post one of my 12, as can't be bothered to redact the info), so this one is a stock image from USCIS

 

Picture15 - Temporary I-551 Stamp USCIS left.png

 

Once endorsed, and hot stamped in the passport, it acts as a temporary GC (which is an I-551, this is an I-551 temporary stamp) for a period of one year. 

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CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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2 hours ago, mindthegap said:

I did....in the last paragraph.

Oh...Sorry.  I got in a hurry.  Missed that... Thanks.....

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

August 7, 2022: Wife filed N-400 Online under 5 year rule.

November 10, 2022: Received "Interview is scheduled" letter.

December 12, 2022:  Received email from Dallas office informing me (spouse) to be there for combo interview.

December 14, 2022: Combo Interview for I-751 and N-400 Conducted.

January 26, 2023: Wife's Oath Ceremony completed at the Plano Event Center, Plano, Texas!!!😁

February 6, 2023: Wife's Passport Application submitted in Dallas, Texas.

March 21, 2023:   Wife's Passport Delivered!!!!

May 15, 2023 (about):  Naturalization Certificate returned from Passport agency!!

 

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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On 12/26/2023 at 7:27 PM, mindthegap said:

 

No. 

It looks like this (I won't post one of my 12, as can't be bothered to redact the info), so this one is a stock image from USCIS

 

Picture15 - Temporary I-551 Stamp USCIS left.png

 

Once endorsed, and hot stamped in the passport, it acts as a temporary GC (which is an I-551, this is an I-551 temporary stamp) for a period of one year. 

OK. So here is what happened. We requested for an ADIT stamp and these guys did not grant an appointment right away, rather said in a confirmation with a service number that this may not need an appointment and you may get a call or an email to resolve this issue in 3-5 business days. Today we got an email saying that since you have already been issued a reciept extension for 48 months. your request does not warrant an appointment request at that time. So technically it sounds like the 10 year card is valid in it's face value. So we are going to call the uscis contact center and also talk to a reputed attorney to get some more clarity. Not the one who got his degree from a cereal box. :)

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