I-864 NVC Household questions [merged threads]

[VisaQuestions0115 0]

Hey everyone,

 

My wife and I are filling form I-864 and we have several questions:

 

a) In Part 5 Sponsor's Household Size. "7. OPTIONAL: If you have siblings, parents, or adult children with the same principal residence who are combining their income with yours by submitting Form I-864A, enter the number here"

 

Her mom will be our co-sponsor (so she files another form I-864), and her step-dad would be the only one filling the I-864A. But then the household size wouldn't match the proper number since it would give us a total of 3 even though it should be 4 of us. What should we put here?

 

b) In Part 6 "Income you are using from any other person who was counted in your household size" if we don't add her mom to the household size in part 5 then in part 6 we shouldn't add her either, right? Since she would not be counted in the household size?

 

Thank you!

Edited October 8, 2023 by TBoneTX

[pushbrk 12,232]

29 minutes ago, VisaQuestions0115 said:

Hey everyone,

 

My wife and I are filling form I-864 and we have several questions:

 

a) In Part 5 Sponsor's Household Size. "7. OPTIONAL: If you have siblings, parents, or adult children with the same principal residence who are combining their income with yours by submitting Form I-864A, enter the number here"

 

Her mom will be our co-sponsor (so she files another form I-864), and her step-dad would be the only one filling the I-864A. But then the household size wouldn't match the proper number since it would give us a total of 3 even though it should be 4 of us. What should we put here?

 

b) In Part 6 "Income you are using from any other person who was counted in your household size" if we don't add her mom to the household size in part 5 then in part 6 we shouldn't add her either, right? Since she would not be counted in the household size?

 

Thank you!

A joint sponsor and their spouse are not combining income with you.  Count the two household sizes separately.

[VisaQuestions0115 0]

10 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

A joint sponsor and their spouse are not combining income with you.  Count the two household sizes separately.

 

My wife and her parents live in the same house, should that be the same household size?

[pushbrk 12,232]

5 minutes ago, VisaQuestions0115 said:

 

My wife and her parents live in the same house, should that be the same household size?

No, for the reason I just stated.  They are NOT combining income.  All the words mean things.  Don't add or subtract from what you read.  This is all clear from the I-864 instructions.

[Mike E 11,726]

7 hours ago, VisaQuestions0115 said:

My wife and her parents live in the same house

Is your wife the U.S. citizen?

[VisaQuestions0115 0]

On 10/5/2023 at 8:14 AM, Mike E said:

Is your wife the U.S. citizen?

Yes, she is

[VisaQuestions0115 0]

My wife, her mom, and her mom’s husband all live together. My wife is listed as a dependent on mom’s tax transcripts. My wife who is my primary sponsor listed herself and myself (the beneficiary) on her I-864 which makes 2 household members.

 

Her mom who is the joint sponsor listed herself, her husband, and myself as the household members on her own separate I-864, which makes 3 household members.

 

Did we do this correctly? From what I can see, a joint sponsor cannot combine income with the primary sponsor. A joint sponsor (mom) cannot list a primary sponsor (my wife) as a household member which makes it two separate households, two I-864s.
They do live together so I’m wondering if we need to change anything.
My wife makes 0 income as a student and her parents’ combined income is 130k.

[pushbrk 12,232]

2 hours ago, VisaQuestions0115 said:

My wife, her mom, and her mom’s husband all live together. My wife is listed as a dependent on mom’s tax transcripts. My wife who is my primary sponsor listed herself and myself (the beneficiary) on her I-864 which makes 2 household members.

 

Her mom who is the joint sponsor listed herself, her husband, and myself as the household members on her own separate I-864, which makes 3 household members.

 

Did we do this correctly? From what I can see, a joint sponsor cannot combine income with the primary sponsor. A joint sponsor (mom) cannot list a primary sponsor (my wife) as a household member which makes it two separate households, two I-864s.
They do live together so I’m wondering if we need to change anything.
My wife makes 0 income as a student and her parents’ combined income is 130k.

You did it exactly right, except the joint sponsor's spouse should also provide an I-864a whether their income is needed or not and whether they have income or not.

[TBoneTX 43,418]

Related threads are now merged.  Please do not start multiple threads on the same topic.

[VisaQuestions0115 0]

3 hours ago, pushbrk said:

You did it exactly right, except the joint sponsor's spouse should also provide an I-864a whether their income is needed or not and whether they have income or not.

Thank you so much! 

 

I have one more question.  We read “Item 5: You must include each and every person whom you claimed as a dependent on your most recent tax return, even if that person is not related to you.”  

 

This confuses me. It is saying we should add my wife since she is a dependent on her mom’s tax return as an extra number onto the household size, but I am receiving advice to count household sizes between joint and primary sponsor as separate

[Mae Harry 0]

7 hours ago, VisaQuestions0115 said:

My wife, her mom, and her mom’s husband all live together. My wife is listed as a dependent on mom’s tax transcripts. My wife who is my primary sponsor listed herself and myself (the beneficiary) on her I-864 which makes 2 household members.

 

Her mom who is the joint sponsor listed herself, her husband, and myself as the household members on her own separate I-864, which makes 3 household members.

 

Did we do this correctly? From what I can see, a joint sponsor cannot combine income with the primary sponsor. A joint sponsor (mom) cannot list a primary sponsor (my wife) as a household member which makes it two separate households, two I-864s.
They do live together so I’m wondering if we need to change anything.
My wife makes 0 income as a student and her parents’ combined income is 130k.

Hello!  So for the I-864 of your wife's mother (being the Joint Sponsor), their household size is 2?  Not counting your wife since she has her own I-864...did I get it right?

[pushbrk 12,232]

1 hour ago, VisaQuestions0115 said:

Thank you so much! 

 

I have one more question.  We read “Item 5: You must include each and every person whom you claimed as a dependent on your most recent tax return, even if that person is not related to you.”  

 

This confuses me. It is saying we should add my wife since she is a dependent on her mom’s tax return as an extra number onto the household size, but I am receiving advice to count household sizes between joint and primary sponsor as separate

Actually, you follow both the instructions AND the advice because both apply.  If your wife is currently a dependent or was in 2022, she is counted by entering a 1 in a box, making the joint sponsor's household 4.  It's just one of those situations where instructions "overlap".