My wife doesn't know if she passed her citizenship test.

[IandI100 31]

18 minutes ago, OldUser said:

@IandI100 I think we're speaking different languages... Good luck!

What are your guesses as to why it is so difficult to find any copies of interview letter or denial letters that were sent out at all?? 

[OldUser 5,215]

Just now, IandI100 said:

What are your guesses as to why it is so difficult to find any copies of interview letter or denial letters that were sent out at all?? 

Copy of denial letter I've seen with my own eyes earlier today from your screenshot.

If you didn't ask for a copy of interview letter in FOIA request, USCIS wouldn't give in their response. Simple.

[IandI100 31]

4 minutes ago, OldUser said:

Copy of denial letter I've seen with my own eyes earlier today from your screenshot.

If you didn't ask for a copy of interview letter in FOIA request, USCIS wouldn't give in their response. Simple.

That looks like an official denial letter that is typically sent out??? What is that date stamp for? Can you provide examples of sent out denial letters to show that this is how they usually look (with a date only stamp)

 

And why was this hidden from both petitioner and every uscis officer that has looked at this case??

[Crazy Cat 39,945]

16 minutes ago, IandI100 said:

That looks like an official denial letter that is typically sent out??? What is that date stamp for? Can you provide examples of sent out denial letters to show that this is how they usually look (with a date only stamp)

 

And why was this hidden from both petitioner and every uscis officer that has looked at this case??

Here's one from a Visa Journey thread in 2014:

 

i485 denial notice after verbal approval during interview (merged) - Adjustment of Status (Green Card) from K1 and K3 Family Based Visas - VisaJourney

 

 

 

Edited December 20, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[Crazy Cat 39,945]

20 minutes ago, IandI100 said:

And why was this hidden from both petitioner and every uscis officer that has looked at this case??

I think the denial letter was created by USCIS in 2021.  However, proving the letter was actually mailed from USCIS and/or received by you is the impossible part.  

Edited December 20, 2022 by Crazy Cat

[Crazy Cat 39,945]

Here is another one in this article:

 

Deferred Action (and Mercy) is Dead—Another Effective Program Killed by the Administration | Kuck Baxter (immigration.net)

[midwinterrose 274]

It appears that the only change of address for the case occurred on January 10, 2022.

 

What date did you move, and what date did you submit the AR-11 change of address form?

 

Double-check what exactly your FOIA request encompassed.  If it did not explicitly ask for interview notices, or all communications and records pertaining to your case, I would recommend that you submit another FOIA request specifically requesting all records.

 

If you can prove that you correctly submitted the AR-11 before November 3rd, 2020, when they scheduled the interview, and FOIA turns up an interview notice addressed to your old address, then you have the smoking gun that USCIS is at fault.  If it turns up an interview notice with your new address, then you're probably dead in the water, as USCIS can then shift the blame to you.  If it turns up no interview notice at all, then that will be in your favor.

 

I notice that the online notification states that on March 8th, 2021, USCIS cancelled the interview that was scheduled on November 3rd, 2020.  I'm curious if that cancellation letter will turn up in the FOIA request, and what address it will have on it.  I am assuming that you never received that letter either.

[OldUser 5,215]

25 minutes ago, midwinterrose said:

If you can prove that you correctly submitted the AR-11 before November 3rd, 2020, when they scheduled the interview, and FOIA turns up an interview notice addressed to your old address, then you have the smoking gun that USCIS is at fault. 

The way it looks to me:

1. OP's wife filed I-751 jointly at old address

2. OP and wife moved to new address. Whether they correctly filed AR-11 or not hard to tell without proof.

3. USCIS sends an interview letter to old address on file (my assumption), which OP and his wife did not receive, since they lived at different address

4. USCIS sends denial letter to old address on file. Again, OP and his wife didn't receive it

5. Meanwhile OP's wife gets I-551 stamps at local field office

6. OP's wife specified new address in N-400 application

 

 

Edited December 20, 2022 by OldUser

[IandI100 31]

25 minutes ago, midwinterrose said:

It appears that the only change of address for the case occurred on January 10, 2022.

 

What date did you move, and what date did you submit the AR-11 change of address form?

 

Double-check what exactly your FOIA request encompassed.  If it did not explicitly ask for interview notices, or all communications and records pertaining to your case, I would recommend that you submit another FOIA request specifically requesting all records.

 

If you can prove that you correctly submitted the AR-11 before November 3rd, 2020, when they scheduled the interview, and FOIA turns up an interview notice addressed to your old address, then you have the smoking gun that USCIS is at fault.  If it turns up an interview notice with your new address, then you're probably dead in the water, as USCIS can then shift the blame to you.  If it turns up no interview notice at all, then that will be in your favor.

 

I notice that the online notification states that on March 8th, 2021, USCIS cancelled the interview that was scheduled on November 3rd, 2020.  I'm curious if that cancellation letter will turn up in the FOIA request, and what address it will have on it.  I am assuming that you never received that letter either.

"I want copies of the denial notice and interview notice specifically regarding the i751"  quote from the foia

  I am.at work and can't redact and send pic right now

[IandI100 31]

2 minutes ago, OldUser said:

The way it looks to me:

1. OP's wife filed I-751 jointly at old address

2. OP and wife moved to new address. Whether they correctly filed AR-11 or not hard to tell without proof.

3. USCIS sends an interview letter to old address on file (my assumption), which OP and his wife did not receive, since they lived at different address

4. USCIS sends denial letter to old address on file. Again, OP and his wife didn't receive it

5. Meanwhile OP's wife gets I-551 stamps at local field office

6. OP's wife specified new address in N-400 application

 

 

I sent screenshots of all of the online notices regarding thos i751.  No notification of interview letter sent, and no denial notice online or sent.  

[IandI100 31]

28 minutes ago, midwinterrose said:

It appears that the only change of address for the case occurred on January 10, 2022.

 

What date did you move, and what date did you submit the AR-11 change of address form?

 

Double-check what exactly your FOIA request encompassed.  If it did not explicitly ask for interview notices, or all communications and records pertaining to your case, I would recommend that you submit another FOIA request specifically requesting all records.

 

If you can prove that you correctly submitted the AR-11 before November 3rd, 2020, when they scheduled the interview, and FOIA turns up an interview notice addressed to your old address, then you have the smoking gun that USCIS is at fault.  If it turns up an interview notice with your new address, then you're probably dead in the water, as USCIS can then shift the blame to you.  If it turns up no interview notice at all, then that will be in your favor.

 

I notice that the online notification states that on March 8th, 2021, USCIS cancelled the interview that was scheduled on November 3rd, 2020.  I'm curious if that cancellation letter will turn up in the FOIA request, and what address it will have on it.  I am assuming that you never received that letter either.

Nope no copies of interview notices sent to me in the foia.

[OldUser 5,215]

3 minutes ago, IandI100 said:

Nope no copies of interview notices sent to me in the foia.

Did you ask for it? And if you did, was it done properly? That's the reason sometimes people hire lawyers instead of trying to do it themselves.

Edited December 20, 2022 by OldUser

[IandI100 31]

24 minutes ago, OldUser said:

Did you ask for it? And if you did, was it done properly? That's the reason sometimes people hire lawyers instead of trying to do it themselves.

Yes, I quoted what I asked for and how i asked for it above.

25 minutes ago, OldUser said:

Did you ask for it? And if you did, was it done properly? That's the reason sometimes people hire lawyers instead of trying to do it themselves.

What kinds of immigrants can afford lawyers?

[OldUser 5,215]

6 minutes ago, IandI100 said:

Yes, I quoted what I asked for and how i asked for it above.

Thank you, in FOIA request, did you specify your wife's

- Alien number

- I-751 case number

- Timeframe for your request (e.g. from date mm/dd/yyyy to date mm/dd/yyyy)

 

If not, don't be surprised some info maybe missing in response. USCIS is a huge agency with many offices scattered around the entire US. 

Edited December 20, 2022 by OldUser

[IandI100 31]

Just now, OldUser said:

Thank you, did you specify your wife's

- Alien number

- I-751 case number

- Timeframe for your request (e.g. from date mm/dd/yyyy to date mm/dd/yyyy)

 

If not, don't be surprised some info maybe missing in response. USCIS is a huge agency with many offices scattered around the entire US. 

Yeah and multiple tier uscis officers and multiple service requests state that it's in the que for reschedule and it's not denied.  Multiple people making the same mistake is more unlikely.