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37 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

All countries need to work on this. China has issues with pollution because we consumers are buying stuff from China. Meanwhile China has built a large solar farm as well as converting their fleet of buses and cars to fully electric vehicles. But as long as there is a high consumer demand that exceeds their energy production they still rely on coal. 

 

Are electric vehicles perfect? No, but they don't cause cancer, asthma etc when they're on the roads. 

 

It's about clean air. It's about trying to stop an temperature increase past 1.5C etc. 

China has issues with pollution becuse America buys stuff.

Trump is evil for trying to stop it.

 

I love liberal logic 

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12 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

She doesn’t fly?  I heard she is going to Chile,   How is she getting there?

So what is the difference between her and Mr. Lomborg?

She is sailing again. 

 

I'm actually surprised you are even mentioning Lomborg as some kind of opposite of Greta since Lomborg agree that we need to deal with climate change. 





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14 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

China has issues with pollution becuse America buys stuff.

Trump is evil for trying to stop it.

 

I love liberal logic 

China has issues because the entire world buys from them. Love how you guys can manage to throw Trump into any discussion here. 





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5 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

China has issues because the entire world buys from them. Love how you guys can manage to throw Trump into any discussion here. 

So they get a pass?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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6 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

She is sailing again. 

 

I'm actually surprised you are even mentioning Lomborg as some kind of opposite of Greta since Lomborg agree that we need to deal with climate change. 

I have never said I did not believe in climate change as the Earth’s climate is in a continued state of flux.  Lomborg proposed logical and real potentials, not just feel good rhetoric.  As to Ms. Thunberg sailing to Chile, the solar hatch has already returned to Europe, so I expect she will be taking a conventionally powered boat down there.

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1 minute ago, Boiler said:

So they get a pass?

Why would they? We are all living on the same planet. Everyone needs to help reduce CO2 and prevent an increase of 1.5C or higher. 





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Just now, Bill & Katya said:

I have never said I did not believe in climate change as the Earth’s climate is in a continued state of flux.  Lomborg proposed logical and real potentials, not just feel good rhetoric.  As to Ms. Thunberg sailing to Chile, the solar hatch has already returned to Europe, so I expect she will be taking a conventionally powered boat down there.

Sorry, my bad. She is actually taking the train according to the Daily Mail. 

 

Lomborg keeps contradicting himself so I don't really know what he wants. Except subsidizing solar panels. 





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Just now, Unidentified said:

Sorry, my bad. She is actually taking the train according to the Daily Mail. 

 

Lomborg keeps contradicting himself so I don't really know what he wants. Except subsidizing solar panels. 

A train to Chile?  Wonder how they are getting across the Darien Gap?

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Just now, Bill & Katya said:

A train to Chile?  Wonder how they are getting across the Darien Gap?

Why don't you google it? She has explained it previously so I doubt it would be hard for you to find that info. 





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Just now, Unidentified said:

Why don't you google it? She has explained it previously so I doubt it would be hard for you to find that info. 

My point is why not just use video conferencing and reduce her carbon footprint?

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Just now, Bill & Katya said:

My point is why not just use video conferencing and reduce her carbon footprint?

We could ask the same questions to companies who are flying all over the world to meetings instead of using video conferencing. 





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1 minute ago, Unidentified said:

We could ask the same questions to companies who are flying all over the world to meetings instead of using video conferencing. 

I think many are using conferencing. I know I am.  Now if we believe the Democrats here, air travel will become banned, so it won’t be a problem.

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

I think many are using conferencing. I know I am.  Now if we believe the Democrats here, air travel will become banned, so it won’t be a problem.

Air travel is a huge problem but the democrats have not said they're banning it. 





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14 minutes ago, Unidentified said:

Air travel is a huge problem but the democrats have not said they're banning it. 

AOC did and no you can not go by Train to Chile, not even Mexico.

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