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Hi Everyone - After receiving my NOA1 at the end of May, I finally received a letter from USCIS.  Expecting it to be my long awaited biometrics appointment letter, I was surprised to read that it was a notice that I did not need to appear for a biometrics appointment because they were able to look up my previous biometrics data and will use it to process this case.  Sure enough when I checked the case status online it says "Fingerprint Review was Completed" - saying that as of August 17th they completed review of my fingerprints and working on my form I-751.

 

Another member has suggested that they will probably need biometrics later on in the process but that is a bit confusing to me - is there anyone a bit further in the process who received the same communication?


03/11/16 - Engaged!

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01/09/17 - AOS/EAD/AP filed

01/23/17 - NOA1 texts and emails received

01/27/17 - NOA1 hardcopies received 

02/11/17 - Biometrics appointment letter received

02/21/17 - Biometrics appointment

04/17/17 - EAD status changed to New Card Being Produced

04/21/17 - NOA2 hardcopies for EAD and AP received 

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No, you won't have to worry about doing biometrics for your ROC i751 since you got the letter advising that they are re-using your previous biometrics from the AOS process. The next time you will have to deal with biometrics possibly is when you go to do your naturalization if you decide to become a US Citizen when you qualify.


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  • I-129F Packet Sent: 09/11/2015 (Sent to Dallas, TX Lockbox)
  • Delivery Confirmation: 09/16/2015
  • NOA1 Received (Electronic notice): 09/18/2015 (Sent to CSC)
  • NOA1 Received (Hard Copy): 09/26/15
  • NOA2 Received (Electronic notice): 10/06/2015
  • NOA2 Received (Hard Copy): 10/10/2015
  • NVC Received: 10/26/2015
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  • Applied for SSN: 03/17/2016
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  • Marriage Date: 04/21/2016

AOS/EAD/AP Process:

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  • I-485/I-797/I-131 Packet Sent: 05/10/2016 (Sent to Chicago, IL Lockbox)
  • Tracking Shows Packet Delivered: 05/12/16
  • NOA1 Received (Electronic notices): 05/19/16 (for all 3: AOS, EAD & AP)
  • NOA1 Received (Hard Copies): 05/23/16 (Notice date of 5/18/16 for all 3)
  • Biometrics Appt. Letter Received: 06/10/16
  • Biometrics Appt. Scheduled for: 06/20/16
  • Biometrics Appt. Completed: 06/20/16
  • EAD/AP Approved: 07/28/2016 {Day 76}
  • EAD/AP Card Received: 08/03/16 {Day 82}
  • DL Tests passed & 1yr. DL issued: 08/18/16
  • AOS Approved: 08/29/16 (Interview waived & Approval notice received in the mail on 9/1/16) {Day 108)
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  • Updated info. w/DMV & New 4yr. DL issued: 09/22/16
  • New Permanent SSN Card Received: 09/28/16

1st Date we can File ROC: 05/30/18

ROC Process:

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  • I-751 Packet Sent: 06/11/18 (Sent to California Service Center)
  • Tracking Shows Packet Delivered: 6/13/18
  • Check Shows Cashed: 6/28/18
  • NOA1 Received (Hard Copy): 6/30/18 (Notice date of: 06/26/18)
  • Biometrics Appt. Letter Received: 3/16/19 (Notice date of: 03/08/19) - USCIS Biometrics Waiver Notice Received
  • Biometrics Appt. Scheduled for: N/A - (USCIS is resusing previous fingerprints/biometrics from AOS)
  • Notice of Transfer Received: 3/21/19 (Notice date of 03/15/19 )- USCIS transferred case to the Potomac Service Center in Arlington, VA for processing.
  • Interview Date: N/A - (Interview waived, received Electronic notice on 4/18/19 of update to case. It was  the ROC Approval with and approval date of 4/17/19)
  • ROC Approved: 4/15/19 (Received Electronic notice on 4/18/19 with an approval date of 4/17/19. Received Hard Copy in the mail on 4/20/19 with a Notice date of 4/15/19)
  • 10yr. Greencard Received4/24/19

1st Date we can File Naturalization (N400): 05/30/19

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8 minutes ago, Prystine said:

No, you won't have to worry about doing biometrics for your ROC i751 since you got the letter advising that they are re-using your previous biometrics from the AOS process. The next time you will have to deal with biometrics possibly is when you go to do your naturalization if you decide to become a US Citizen when you qualify.

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03/11/16 - Engaged!

09/27/16 – Interview Date – Approved

10/13/16 – POE Houston

12/22/16 - HAPPILY MARRIED!!!!

01/09/17 - AOS/EAD/AP filed

01/23/17 - NOA1 texts and emails received

01/27/17 - NOA1 hardcopies received 

02/11/17 - Biometrics appointment letter received

02/21/17 - Biometrics appointment

04/17/17 - EAD status changed to New Card Being Produced

04/21/17 - NOA2 hardcopies for EAD and AP received 

04/26/17 - EAD/AP combo card received

05/26/17 - RFE Received (I-485)

06/12/17 - RFE Response Received at Houston Field office

06/22/17 - I-485 approved, Card being produced

06/29/17 - Hardcopy I-485  approval notice received

07/01/17 - Greencard in hand

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K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016 (260 days)

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017 (108 days)

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017 (132 days)

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017 (217 days)

 

ROC:

04-19-2019 - Earliest filing date

04-22-2019 - I-751 sent with USPS (AZ lockbox)

04-24-2019 - Delivered/Received date

04-30-2019 - Check cashed

04-30-2019 - NOA1 text/email (WAC)

05-03-2019 - NOA1 hardcopy/extension letter

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21 hours ago, Scandi said:

Well from my research I see that some did experience receiving this letter yet being served a biometrics appointment later on - however the common thread was that their case status online never indicated that the fingerprint review was completed.  One can only assume that upon reviewing the old prints it was decided that new ones were required.

 

On the other hand, I've found lots of others who received this letter and never had to go in for a biometrics appointment.

 

The verdict on this is that its a 50/50 chance of it going either way - however my bet is on not requiring a biometrics appointment in my case.

 

Thank you for your assistance!

 

 

 


03/11/16 - Engaged!

09/27/16 – Interview Date – Approved

10/13/16 – POE Houston

12/22/16 - HAPPILY MARRIED!!!!

01/09/17 - AOS/EAD/AP filed

01/23/17 - NOA1 texts and emails received

01/27/17 - NOA1 hardcopies received 

02/11/17 - Biometrics appointment letter received

02/21/17 - Biometrics appointment

04/17/17 - EAD status changed to New Card Being Produced

04/21/17 - NOA2 hardcopies for EAD and AP received 

04/26/17 - EAD/AP combo card received

05/26/17 - RFE Received (I-485)

06/12/17 - RFE Response Received at Houston Field office

06/22/17 - I-485 approved, Card being produced

06/29/17 - Hardcopy I-485  approval notice received

07/01/17 - Greencard in hand

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You'll receive an appointment later on, don't worry about it. Biometrics are only valid for 15 months, and by the time they get around to do the background checks on you your old biometrics will be too old. That's when they will ask for new ones. So it'll take a little while, but you'll very likely get it. It's also not a biggie.


K-1: 12-22-2015 - 09-07-2016 (260 days)

AP: 12-20-2016 - 04-07-2017 (108 days)

EAD: 01-18-2017 - 05-30-2017 (132 days)

AOS: 12-20-2016 - 07-26-2017 (217 days)

 

ROC:

04-19-2019 - Earliest filing date

04-22-2019 - I-751 sent with USPS (AZ lockbox)

04-24-2019 - Delivered/Received date

04-30-2019 - Check cashed

04-30-2019 - NOA1 text/email (WAC)

05-03-2019 - NOA1 hardcopy/extension letter

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The only people that struggled with getting a bio metrics request after getting a waiver were those who left the country thinking they wouldn't need to be around for a bit until ROC interview or went on vacation out of state thinking they would be fine.

With that said, my husbands biometrics were waived, other people who filed the same date or within a couple of days of him were waived, and about 10% of those people who were waived received letters to go back and do biometrics.


Plenty of cases like my husbands never even showed ANY or very little online update.

His case on the new system STILL shows that his case was received, even though he's had his green card since Spring of this year. His case on the old system went from saying his number was invalid to "New Card in Production", nothing about receiving the file, biometrics, anything, just "No we don't have it" to "Hey we're making the card!"


Good rule of thumb:

Plan for an RFE (aka make sure to keep collecting proofs and such to provide if needed)
Plan to go to biometrics even if given a waiver letter (Try not to take yourself out of the country for extended periods of time during this process)


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06/02/15 - NOA2 Recieved
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04/08/16 - I-485, I-765, I-131 AOS Application recieved by USCIS
04/12/16 - 3 NOA1's received in mail
05/14/16 - Biometrics for AOS and EAD
06/27/16 - I-485 Case to changed to "New Card being produced"  (Day 77)
06/27/16 - I-485 Case changed to Approved! (Day 77)
06/30/16 - I-485 Case changed to "My Card has been mailed to me!"
07/05/16 - Green Card received in mail! 

 


ROC:   2018 - 2019 Done in 326 days - No RFE, No Interview

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05/09/18 - Mailed out ROC to CSC

05/10/18 - CSC Signed and received ROC package
06/07/28 - NOA1 

06/11/18 - Check cashed

06/15/18 - NOA received in the mail
08/27/18 - 18 month extension received (Courtesy Copy)

09/18/18 - Request for official 18 month extension
10/22/18 - Official 18 month extension received 

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8 minutes ago, Ash. said:

The only people that struggled with getting a bio metrics request after getting a waiver were those who left the country thinking they wouldn't need to be around for a bit until ROC interview or went on vacation out of state thinking they would be fine.

With that said, my husbands biometrics were waived, other people who filed the same date or within a couple of days of him were waived, and about 10% of those people who were waived received letters to go back and do biometrics.


Plenty of cases like my husbands never even showed ANY or very little online update.

His case on the new system STILL shows that his case was received, even though he's had his green card since Spring of this year. His case on the old system went from saying his number was invalid to "New Card in Production", nothing about receiving the file, biometrics, anything, just "No we don't have it" to "Hey we're making the card!"


Good rule of thumb:

Plan for an RFE (aka make sure to keep collecting proofs and such to provide if needed)
Plan to go to biometrics even if given a waiver letter (Try not to take yourself out of the country for extended periods of time during this process)

Thank you for this helpful contribution!  Good advice here.


03/11/16 - Engaged!

09/27/16 – Interview Date – Approved

10/13/16 – POE Houston

12/22/16 - HAPPILY MARRIED!!!!

01/09/17 - AOS/EAD/AP filed

01/23/17 - NOA1 texts and emails received

01/27/17 - NOA1 hardcopies received 

02/11/17 - Biometrics appointment letter received

02/21/17 - Biometrics appointment

04/17/17 - EAD status changed to New Card Being Produced

04/21/17 - NOA2 hardcopies for EAD and AP received 

04/26/17 - EAD/AP combo card received

05/26/17 - RFE Received (I-485)

06/12/17 - RFE Response Received at Houston Field office

06/22/17 - I-485 approved, Card being produced

06/29/17 - Hardcopy I-485  approval notice received

07/01/17 - Greencard in hand

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September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
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September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
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April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
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May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
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September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
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November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

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