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I'm sure this has been exhausted, but I am a little confused. On the "Tips for filing AOS for K-1" on this site the first point states:

 

"If you are a K-1, K-2, K-3 or K-4 visa holder the I-693 instructions state that you are not required to have another medical examination as long as your Form I-485 is filed within one year of your overseas medical examination. Regardless of if you are exempt from a medical exam, you are still required to complete certain portions of the I-693 and have a Civil Surgeon certify the form (and seal it in an evelope). Specifically, you will complete Part 1 (Information about you) of the I-693 and provide both the form and your DS-3025 (if you have it, proving your vaccination history) and any proof of required vaccinations that were completed prior to entering the US. If you do not have a copy of your DS-3025 you will need to provide sufficient evidence of your vaccination history to the Civil Surgeon (talk to the civil surgeon's office to discuss what vaccination records they accept as proof). If you do not have proof of your vaccination history the Civil Surgeon may insist on re-administering all the required vaccinations prior to completing the I-693. Once the Civil Surgeon has has verified that all required vaccinations have been performed, they will complete form I-693 Part 2 (the vaccination section) and Part 5 (the Civil Surgeon's Certification). They will then seal the form in an envelope and return it to you."

 

So do we still need to make an appointment with a civil surgeon and get my fiance checked out? This makes it seem it is still needed to have the I-693 completed and sealed by a civil surgeon, regardless of his complete vaccination and shot record.

 

Any insight would be helpful, thank you!

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Just now, sam.e said:

I'm sure this has been exhausted, but I am a little confused. On the "Tips for filing AOS for K-1" on this site the first point states:

 

"If you are a K-1, K-2, K-3 or K-4 visa holder the I-693 instructions state that you are not required to have another medical examination as long as your Form I-485 is filed within one year of your overseas medical examination. Regardless of if you are exempt from a medical exam, you are still required to complete certain portions of the I-693 and have a Civil Surgeon certify the form (and seal it in an evelope). Specifically, you will complete Part 1 (Information about you) of the I-693 and provide both the form and your DS-3025 (if you have it, proving your vaccination history) and any proof of required vaccinations that were completed prior to entering the US. If you do not have a copy of your DS-3025 you will need to provide sufficient evidence of your vaccination history to the Civil Surgeon (talk to the civil surgeon's office to discuss what vaccination records they accept as proof). If you do not have proof of your vaccination history the Civil Surgeon may insist on re-administering all the required vaccinations prior to completing the I-693. Once the Civil Surgeon has has verified that all required vaccinations have been performed, they will complete form I-693 Part 2 (the vaccination section) and Part 5 (the Civil Surgeon's Certification). They will then seal the form in an envelope and return it to you."

 

So do we still need to make an appointment with a civil surgeon and get my fiance checked out? This makes it seem it is still needed to have the I-693 completed and sealed by a civil surgeon, regardless of his complete vaccination and shot record.

 

Any insight would be helpful, thank you!

Nope. If you file the I-485 within one year of the overseas medical date you do not have to disclose the I-693. Also not a portion of it. A copy of the DS-3025 (overseas medical) is enough to submit with the I-485.

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If the ds3025 was marked complete no need for the i693.


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A K1 filing AOS within a year does not need to submit an I-693, a copy of your DS3025 should be sufficient - unless the following happens.

 

1) The officer loses your DS3025 or doesn't bother checking your medical file.

2) The officer reviewing your case isn't aware of the K1 rules.

3) Your DS3025 isn't marked complete or you did not complete all the vaccinations needed for some reason.

4) If you have an interview (instead of it being waived) the officer could request a full I-693 directly. No real way to argue this, got to do what they want.

 

In the first two scenarios you would likely be sent a generic worded RFE that won't give you a clue - so what to do? You will need to only see a civil surgeon to transcribe your vaccinations. Finding one to just do that only and for an affordable price can be a hassle, but it can be done (there is a thread on the forum of doctor suggestions). You'd bring your DS3025, your passport, and the I693. Follow the instructions carefully and only fill out the portion pertaining to a K1, the civil surgeon fills out the rest, signs and seals this. This is what you'd respond to the RFE with, along with a cover letter and whatever other instructions. This is what happened to my husband. The RFE didn't give us much of a clue. I made a strongly worded, but polite, cover letter explaining their own rules, and found a civil surgeon to transcribe the vaccinations. It was only a few extra days delay.

 


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13 hours ago, yuna628 said:

A K1 filing AOS within a year does not need to submit an I-693, a copy of your DS3025 should be sufficient - unless the following happens.

 

1) The officer loses your DS3025 or doesn't bother checking your medical file.

2) The officer reviewing your case isn't aware of the K1 rules.

3) Your DS3025 isn't marked complete or you did not complete all the vaccinations needed for some reason.

4) If you have an interview (instead of it being waived) the officer could request a full I-693 directly. No real way to argue this, got to do what they want.

 

In the first two scenarios you would likely be sent a generic worded RFE that won't give you a clue - so what to do? You will need to only see a civil surgeon to transcribe your vaccinations. Finding one to just do that only and for an affordable price can be a hassle, but it can be done (there is a thread on the forum of doctor suggestions). You'd bring your DS3025, your passport, and the I693. Follow the instructions carefully and only fill out the portion pertaining to a K1, the civil surgeon fills out the rest, signs and seals this. This is what you'd respond to the RFE with, along with a cover letter and whatever other instructions. This is what happened to my husband. The RFE didn't give us much of a clue. I made a strongly worded, but polite, cover letter explaining their own rules, and found a civil surgeon to transcribe the vaccinations. It was only a few extra days delay.

 

When I got my medical I hadn't had a flu jab and needed another tetanus shot as mine had been more than 10 years, I went and got these at my local doctors and have a print out of my vaccination records with the additions. Does this mean I'm going to need to get a civil surgeon to transcribe those as they are not on my original vaccination record from my medical - although they made a note that I would get these.


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1 hour ago, adamj7 said:

When I got my medical I hadn't had a flu jab and needed another tetanus shot as mine had been more than 10 years, I went and got these at my local doctors and have a print out of my vaccination records with the additions. Does this mean I'm going to need to get a civil surgeon to transcribe those as they are not on my original vaccination record from my medical - although they made a note that I would get these.

My fiancé was the same, but Knightsbridge didn’t send his medical results to the embassy until they received confirmation of his flu jab and tetanus. We need to check his DS-3025 and see if it’s marked as “complete”. But I have scheduled a visit with a civil surgeon just in case 🙄 it never ends!

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1 hour ago, adamj7 said:

When I got my medical I hadn't had a flu jab and needed another tetanus shot as mine had been more than 10 years, I went and got these at my local doctors and have a print out of my vaccination records with the additions. Does this mean I'm going to need to get a civil surgeon to transcribe those as they are not on my original vaccination record from my medical - although they made a note that I would get these.

If you did not receive all needed vaccinations before or during the medical, then you would need to see a civil surgeon to transcribe. Take proof of the new vaccinations you received + the DS2035.

 

 


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Touched on website (fixed?): 12/9/14 - Poked USCIS: 4/1/15
NOA 2 email: 5/4/15 (hard copy 5/11/15)
Sent to NVC: 5/8/15 - NVC received + #'s assigned: 5/15/15 (estimated)
NVC sent: 5/19/15 - London received/ready: 5/26/15
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18 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

If you did not receive all needed vaccinations before or during the medical, then you would need to see a civil surgeon to transcribe. Take proof of the new vaccinations you received + the DS2035.

 

 

Oh shoot (insert a more British swear word there for actual effect).... i thought I was done with this, in hindsight I should have juts got them to give me the jabs I needed.......


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1 hour ago, adamj7 said:

Oh shoot (insert a more British swear word there for actual effect).... i thought I was done with this, in hindsight I should have juts got them to give me the jabs I needed.......

lmao right. Here's the site to find a civil surgeon in your area https://my.uscis.gov/findadoctor

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Here is the thread regarding finding civil surgeons that might be affordable and willing to transcribe.

 

 

 


K-1 - AOS & ROC Timeline  - Immigration and the Health Exchange Price of Love in the UK Thinking of Returning to UK?

 

First met: 12/31/04 - Engaged: 9/24/09
Filed I-129F: 10/4/14 - Packet received: 10/7/14
NOA 1 email + ARN assigned: 10/10/14 (hard copy 10/17/14)
Touched on website (fixed?): 12/9/14 - Poked USCIS: 4/1/15
NOA 2 email: 5/4/15 (hard copy 5/11/15)
Sent to NVC: 5/8/15 - NVC received + #'s assigned: 5/15/15 (estimated)
NVC sent: 5/19/15 - London received/ready: 5/26/15
Packet 3: 5/28/15 - Medical: 6/16/15
Poked London 7/1/15 - Packet 4: 7/2/15
Interview: 7/30/15 - Approved!
AP + Issued 8/3/15 - Visa in hand (depot): 8/6/15
POE: 8/27/15

Wedding: 9/30/15

Filed I-485, I-131, I-765: 11/7/15

Packet received: 11/9/15

NOA 1 txt/email: 11/15/15 - NOA 1 hardcopy: 11/19/15

Bio: 12/9/15

EAD + AP approved: 1/25/16 - EAD received: 2/1/16

RFE for USCIS inability to read vax instructions: 5/21/16 (no e-notification & not sent from local office!)

RFE response sent: 6/7/16 - RFE response received 6/9/16

AOS approved/card in production: 6/13/16  

NOA 2 hardcopy + card sent 6/17/16

Green Card received: 6/18/16

USCIS 120 day reminder notice: 2/22/18

Filed I-751: 5/2/18 - Packet received: 5/4/18

NOA 1:  5/29/18 (12 mo) 8/13/18 (18 mo)  - Bio: 6/27/18

 

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5 minutes ago, sam.e said:

lmao right. Here's the site to find a civil surgeon in your area https://my.uscis.gov/findadoctor

thanks - I should wait until I have an RFE or an interview for the AOS right? Or do I need to do it within a year of the original medical??


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I-129f NOA2: 2018-08-06

NVC received: 2018-09-04

Interview: 2018-11-14

Visa in hand: 2018-11-22

Entry into US: 2018-12-13

SSN application: 2019-01-08

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