foreign police reports

[ram1009 43]

My fiance lived outside her home country twice for more than 6 months which means she needs to furnish "something" from the police departments local to her former residences.  Is there an easy way to comply with this requirement or maybe I should ask if there is any way to comply?  The information I've read is conflicting at best.  Thanks for any help.

[geowrian 22,337]

Availability and Instructions for PCCs from each country are listed here: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country.html

[ram1009 43]

9 minutes ago, geowrian said:

Availability and Instructions for PCCs from each country are listed here: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country.html

Thanks, I've seen that page and found it less than helpful.  One of the countries isn't listed and the other only issues one document for residents of over one year which excludes my fiance.  So, I don't see any help there unless I'm missing something.

[geowrian 22,337]

2 minutes ago, ram1009 said:

Thanks, I've seen that page and found it less than helpful.  One of the countries isn't listed and the other only issues one document for residents of over one year which excludes my fiance.  So, I don't see any help there unless I'm missing something.

What are the countries?

[ram1009 43]

3 minutes ago, geowrian said:

What are the countries?

Saipan & Malasia.

[geowrian 22,337]

7 minutes ago, ram1009 said:

Saipan & Malasia.

For Malaysia, one would request it via this website: https://ekonsular.kln.gov.my/en/

Info:

http://www.kln.gov.my/web/guest/home

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country/Malaysia.html

 

Saipan is part of the US. The embassy/consulate handles those background checks automatically, hence why it is not listed in the reciprocity table above.

[ram1009 43]

14 minutes ago, geowrian said:

For Malaysia, one would request it via this website: https://ekonsular.kln.gov.my/en/

Info:

http://www.kln.gov.my/web/guest/home

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country/Malaysia.html

 

Saipan is part of the US. The embassy/consulate handles those background checks automatically, hence why it is not listed in the reciprocity table above.

Well, that's good news about Saipan.  The Malaysian website you furnished seems to want a login by an actual applicant so I will forward the info to my fiance however, the reciprocity page says pretty clearly that Malaysia has only one document to offer and only to residents of over one year.  We'll see.  At least we can say we tried.

[ram1009 43]

16 hours ago, geowrian said:

For Malaysia, one would request it via this website: https://ekonsular.kln.gov.my/en/

Info:

http://www.kln.gov.my/web/guest/home

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/Visa-Reciprocity-and-Civil-Documents-by-Country/Malaysia.html

 

Saipan is part of the US. The embassy/consulate handles those background checks automatically, hence why it is not listed in the reciprocity table above.

I think I've followed this paper trail to the end.  I followed a link on the Malaysia reciprocity page to here:     https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/the-immigrant-visa-process/collect-and-submit-forms-and-documents-to-the-nvc/step-5-collect-supporting-documents.html     Down toward the middle of the page is a paragraph headed "missing documents" which says records needn't be furnished from countries whose guidelines exclude such.  So, it appears to me my fiance is off the hook on this.  Opinions:

[RFN 3]

If your fiance lives in those countries for less than a year, she doesn't need a police report.

[ram1009 43]

2 hours ago, RFN said:

If your fiance lives in those countries for less than a year, she doesn't need a police report.

The State Department website says 6 months.  What is the source of your information saying one year?

[RFN 3]

18 hours ago, ram1009 said:

The State Department website says 6 months.  What is the source of your information saying one year?

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/the-immigrant-visa-process/collect-and-submit-forms-and-documents-to-the-nvc/step-5-collect-supporting-documents.html

 

It states on the site "12 months or more". And this is the email I received from the embassy:

7.             Police Certificate

Each applicant aged 16 or older must have police clearance from any country where the applicant resided for one year or more

 

I also originally thought it's 6 months or more and was frantically trying to find out how to get police cert from China and Taiwan, until my brother pointed it out that its 12 months or more. I have done the interview and was never asked for them. But I'm not sure if it varies embassy to embassy. 

[geowrian 22,337]

12 hours ago, RFN said:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/us-visas/immigrate/the-immigrant-visa-process/collect-and-submit-forms-and-documents-to-the-nvc/step-5-collect-supporting-documents.html

 

It states on the site "12 months or more". And this is the email I received from the embassy:

7.             Police Certificate

Each applicant aged 16 or older must have police clearance from any country where the applicant resided for one year or more

 

I also originally thought it's 6 months or more and was frantically trying to find out how to get police cert from China and Taiwan, until my brother pointed it out that its 12 months or more. I have done the interview and was never asked for them. But I'm not sure if it varies embassy to embassy. 

Note that the quoted section is for an immigrant visa, where they supply they PCC to NVC first.

The K-1 is non-immigrant and NVC has a very minimal role (with no documents being submitted), so I'm always wary to attribute those pages to a K-1 process. The embassy letter (either packet 3 or 4) should be the definitive source of what to go by.

 

That said, I do believe the rules actually are the same in this case. The 6/12 month question is more complicated than just "anywhere you've resided":

If you ...			AND you...			THEN submit a police certificate from...
Are 16 years old or older			Lived in your country of nationality for more than 6 months at any time in your life			Your country of nationality
Are 16 years old or older			Have lived in your country of current residence (if different from nationality) for more than 6 months			Your country of current residence
Have ever lived in another country for 12 months or more			Were 16 years or older at the time you lived there			The country where you used to live.
Were arrested for any reason, regardless of how long you lived in that city or country, and no matter what age you were						The city and/or country where you were arrested.

 

So assuming the OP's case is a former residence, it sounds like it falls into the red section above, which means 12+ months. In which case, they should be fine.

[Y & J 37]

if we applied coc online, do we need to collect it our own? any delivery option? is the collection in KL? or any states in Malaysia? is it possible to collect it in Singapore?