N600, part 8 questions

[GoBig 25]

i am naturalized US citizen and my minor child(<10 years old) automatically became US citizen after my oath and received his own US passport. Now i am preparing for his N600 form.

form N600, part 8. who should be the applicant ?  me or the child ?   whose Signature   do they ask?

[Going through 5,668]

If, as you say, your child has a US passport already (which is used to prove his/her citizenship), you don't need to file the N600.

 

Unless you just want an expensive piece of paper that otherwise won't really ever be used for anything...  

 

 

Edited November 24, 2018 by Going through

[GoBig 25]

according to the USCIS sites,

...However, you may be required to submit your Certificate of Citizenship when attempting to apply for certain other benefits, including, but not limited to:

• Social Security benefits
• State issued ID including a Driver’s License or Learning Permit
• Financial Aid
• Employment
• Passport Renewal

[debbiedoo 2,339]

4 minutes ago, GoBig said:

according to the USCIS sites,

...However, you may be required to submit your Certificate of Citizenship when attempting to apply for certain other benefits, including, but not limited to:

• Social Security benefits
• State issued ID including a Driver’s License or Learning Permit
• Financial Aid
• Employment
• Passport Renewal

for adults who obtain citizenship. not children through their parent.

 

OP should keep a copy of theirs for the child, should for any bizarre reason, they ever need it. highly unlikely, but I am OCD about paperwork so, theres that. lol you do not need the n600 for a child

[GoBig 25]

for the minor child,  the U.S. passport is issued by the department of state, but this child is not registered as "U.S. citizen" at USCIS,meaning the child has no record as US citizen at USCIS.  it’s possible that if an agency checks with USCIS, they could be told that there is no record that you are a U.S. citizen.

[debbiedoo 2,339]

Just now, GoBig said:

for the minor child,  the U.S. passport is issued by the department of state, but this child is not registered as "U.S. citizen" at USCIS,meaning the child has no record as US citizen at USCIS.  it’s possible that if an agency checks with USCIS, they could be told that there is no record that you are a U.S. citizen.

hence why the parent keeping a copy of their naturalization certificate for the child to use if needed

[TM92 527]

7 minutes ago, GoBig said:

according to the USCIS sites

In practice only a US passport is needed.

 

For future readers below is the full quote, https://www.uscis.gov/forms/n-600-application-certificate-citizenship-frequently-asked-questions:

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I already have a U.S. passport issued by the Department of State. Am I required to file a Form N-600 for a Certificate of Citizenship?

No. You are not required to file a Form N-600 for a Certificate of Citizenship. The Certificate of Citizenship is an optional form. A validly issued U.S. passport generally serves as evidence of your U.S. citizenship during its period of validity unless that passport has been revoked by the Department of State. However, you may be required to submit your Certificate of Citizenship when attempting to apply for certain other benefits, including, but not limited to:

• Social Security benefits
• State issued ID including a Driver’s License or Learning Permit
• Financial Aid
• Employment
• Passport Renewal

[TM92 527]

18 minutes ago, GoBig said:

it’s possible that if an agency checks with USCIS, they could be told that there is no record that you are a U.S. citizen.

If you are referring to the SAVE Program, then agencies should not solely rely on that. For example, SAVE has no record of US-born citizens or CRBA citizens. US-born citizens have the option of showing their passport to the agencies. Likewise, Child Citizenship Act citizens can also show their US passport. Similar analogy with the E-Verify Program.

Edited November 24, 2018 by TM92

[Going through 5,668]

Lots of good information in this thread---no real need for the N600 especially if the child already has a US passport...

 

If you've got $1,170 to spare on a piece of paper your child doesn't need since they have proof of citizenship already....suppose no one can tell you how to spend your money.

 

Naturally USCIS is happy to take your money at any time.

[Going through 5,668]

1 hour ago, GoBig said:

for the minor child,  the U.S. passport is issued by the department of state, but this child is not registered as "U.S. citizen" at USCIS,meaning the child has no record as US citizen at USCIS.  it’s possible that if an agency checks with USCIS, they could be told that there is no record that you are a U.S. citizen

Seems any previously filed paperwork with USCIS listing the child as a derivative during his/her immigration process would be the beginning of the papertrail at USCIS for that.

Edited November 25, 2018 by Going through

[TM92 527]

4 minutes ago, Going through said:

Naturally USCIS is happy to take your money at any time.

Agreed; they even now accept credit cards https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-expands-credit-card-payment-option-fees Thus, OP could possibly get some cash back, if applicable, from their CC company if they opt for the N-600

2 hours ago, GoBig said:

form N600, part 8. who should be the applicant ?  me or the child ?   whose Signature   do they ask?

"Where to File" section https://www.uscis.gov/n-600:

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If you are a parent completing Form N-600 for a child younger than 14 years of age, you must sign in Part 8.

[Sm1smom 242]

OP,

If you can afford the fee, it is never a bad idea for your minor child to have their own Naturalization Certificate IMO. I’ve come across people (on another forum I’m quite active on) who derived citizenship from their parents’ naturalization and of course got their US passports as minors back then. For whatever reasons, the passports got misplaced after they expired, they never bothered to renew for a long period. 

 

Parents subsequently passed away, and they no longer have access to parents naturalization certificates, passport agency of course is refusing to issue new passports now without naturalization certificates. USCIS on the other hand hasn’t been helpful in establishing these adults became USC as minors since they never applied for their own naturalization certificates with form N-600. These people are wishing they (or their parents) applied for their own naturalization certificates back then, which would have saved them from the pillar to post experience they’re having with USCIS and passport agencies. 

 

Worth the peace of mind and safeguarding a minor’s future. Totally worth the price IMO!

[TM92 527]

1 hour ago, Sm1smom said:

These people are wishing they (or their parents) applied for their own naturalization certificates back then

*or to renew the expired passports. To not do at least ONE is borderline reckless.

[MahUSA 19]

I don't see why it would be a bad idea to diversify the documents that can be used as a proof of U.S. citizenship if you can afford it. You never know, just in case one of the 2 gets lost at a time when your child needs a proof for his citizenship when applying for a job or something and doesn't have the luxury of waiting for a replacement.  

[GoBig 25]

thanks for everyone, we can for sure afford $1170 for my minor child(single) to have his own certificate..it has no expiration date and my child can use his own certificate for his own life after he grows up. 

 

for the N600,part8, i will sign my child's full name(YYY) and followed by "( by father: XXX)" and part 10 ,preparer : this will be my information who prepared this form and signed my full name.