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i am naturalized US citizen and my minor child(<10 years old) automatically became US citizen after my oath and received his own US passport. Now i am preparing for his N600 form.

form N600, part 8. who should be the applicant ?  me or the child ?   whose Signature   do they ask?


 H1b ---> EB-1A (I-140) ---> I-485 AOS(Green Card) ---> 5 years --->  US Citizenship N400 application

  • Day 011/16/2017, e-filing N400
  • Day 3069/18/2018,  interview day--passed and in line for oath.
  • Day 332: 10/15/2018, Oath Day

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If, as you say, your child has a US passport already (which is used to prove his/her citizenship), you don't need to file the N600.

 

Unless you just want an expensive piece of paper that otherwise won't really ever be used for anything... ;) 

 

 

Edited by Going through

Applied for Naturalization based on 5-year Residency - 96 Days To Complete Citizenship!

July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

Applied for US Passport - requested Routine/ Regular Service

Oct. 27, 2017 (Day 00) - Submitted Passport Application, filed in person at Post Office

Oct. 30, 2017 (Day 03) - Online tracker shows application has been received and is under processing

Nov. 08, 2017 (Day 12) - Online tracker shows "in final stages" and projected completion time of 11/13/2017

Nov. 09, 2017 (Day 13) - Passport received in the mail.

Nov. 10, 2017 (Day 14) - Naturalization Certificate received back in the mail.

 

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according to the USCIS sites,

...However, you may be required to submit your Certificate of Citizenship when attempting to apply for certain other benefits, including, but not limited to:

  • Social Security benefits
  • State issued ID including a Driver’s License or Learning Permit
  • Financial Aid
  • Employment
  • Passport Renewal

 H1b ---> EB-1A (I-140) ---> I-485 AOS(Green Card) ---> 5 years --->  US Citizenship N400 application

  • Day 011/16/2017, e-filing N400
  • Day 3069/18/2018,  interview day--passed and in line for oath.
  • Day 332: 10/15/2018, Oath Day

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4 minutes ago, GoBig said:

according to the USCIS sites,

...However, you may be required to submit your Certificate of Citizenship when attempting to apply for certain other benefits, including, but not limited to:

  • Social Security benefits
  • State issued ID including a Driver’s License or Learning Permit
  • Financial Aid
  • Employment
  • Passport Renewal

for adults who obtain citizenship. not children through their parent.

 

OP should keep a copy of theirs for the child, should for any bizarre reason, they ever need it. highly unlikely, but I am OCD about paperwork so, theres that. lol you do not need the n600 for a child


5/7/2018 K1       Application mailed

5/9/2018             Application rec'd and signed for (sent via fedex)

5/14/2018          NOA1 Email notification

5/18/2018          NOA1 Paper copy rec'd (i797C)

11/5/2018          NOA2 ❤️ no RFE's

11/19/2018        NVC Received file

12/13/2018        Consulate received/ ready to schedule interview

 

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for the minor child,  the U.S. passport is issued by the department of state, but this child is not registered as "U.S. citizen" at USCIS,meaning the child has no record as US citizen at USCIS.  it’s possible that if an agency checks with USCIS, they could be told that there is no record that you are a U.S. citizen.


 H1b ---> EB-1A (I-140) ---> I-485 AOS(Green Card) ---> 5 years --->  US Citizenship N400 application

  • Day 011/16/2017, e-filing N400
  • Day 3069/18/2018,  interview day--passed and in line for oath.
  • Day 332: 10/15/2018, Oath Day

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Just now, GoBig said:

for the minor child,  the U.S. passport is issued by the department of state, but this child is not registered as "U.S. citizen" at USCIS,meaning the child has no record as US citizen at USCIS.  it’s possible that if an agency checks with USCIS, they could be told that there is no record that you are a U.S. citizen.

hence why the parent keeping a copy of their naturalization certificate for the child to use if needed


5/7/2018 K1       Application mailed

5/9/2018             Application rec'd and signed for (sent via fedex)

5/14/2018          NOA1 Email notification

5/18/2018          NOA1 Paper copy rec'd (i797C)

11/5/2018          NOA2 ❤️ no RFE's

11/19/2018        NVC Received file

12/13/2018        Consulate received/ ready to schedule interview

 

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7 minutes ago, GoBig said:

according to the USCIS sites

In practice only a US passport is needed.

 

For future readers below is the full quote, https://www.uscis.gov/forms/n-600-application-certificate-citizenship-frequently-asked-questions:

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I already have a U.S. passport issued by the Department of State. Am I required to file a Form N-600 for a Certificate of Citizenship?

No. You are not required to file a Form N-600 for a Certificate of Citizenship. The Certificate of Citizenship is an optional form. A validly issued U.S. passport generally serves as evidence of your U.S. citizenship during its period of validity unless that passport has been revoked by the Department of State. However, you may be required to submit your Certificate of Citizenship when attempting to apply for certain other benefits, including, but not limited to:

  • Social Security benefits
  • State issued ID including a Driver’s License or Learning Permit
  • Financial Aid
  • Employment
  • Passport Renewal

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18 minutes ago, GoBig said:

it’s possible that if an agency checks with USCIS, they could be told that there is no record that you are a U.S. citizen.

If you are referring to the SAVE Program, then agencies should not solely rely on that. For example, SAVE has no record of US-born citizens or CRBA citizens. US-born citizens have the option of showing their passport to the agencies. Likewise, Child Citizenship Act citizens can also show their US passport. Similar analogy with the E-Verify Program.

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Lots of good information in this thread---no real need for the N600 especially if the child already has a US passport...

 

If you've got $1,170 to spare on a piece of paper your child doesn't need since they have proof of citizenship already....suppose no one can tell you how to spend your money.

 

Naturally USCIS is happy to take your money at any time.


Applied for Naturalization based on 5-year Residency - 96 Days To Complete Citizenship!

July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

Applied for US Passport - requested Routine/ Regular Service

Oct. 27, 2017 (Day 00) - Submitted Passport Application, filed in person at Post Office

Oct. 30, 2017 (Day 03) - Online tracker shows application has been received and is under processing

Nov. 08, 2017 (Day 12) - Online tracker shows "in final stages" and projected completion time of 11/13/2017

Nov. 09, 2017 (Day 13) - Passport received in the mail.

Nov. 10, 2017 (Day 14) - Naturalization Certificate received back in the mail.

 

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1 hour ago, GoBig said:

for the minor child,  the U.S. passport is issued by the department of state, but this child is not registered as "U.S. citizen" at USCIS,meaning the child has no record as US citizen at USCIS.  it’s possible that if an agency checks with USCIS, they could be told that there is no record that you are a U.S. citizen

Seems any previously filed paperwork with USCIS listing the child as a derivative during his/her immigration process would be the beginning of the papertrail at USCIS for that.

Edited by Going through

Applied for Naturalization based on 5-year Residency - 96 Days To Complete Citizenship!

July 14, 2017 (Day 00) -  Submitted N400 Application, filed online

July 21, 2017 (Day 07) -  NOA Receipt received in the mail

July 22, 2017 (Day 08) - Biometrics appointment scheduled online, letter mailed out

July 25, 2017 (Day 11) - Biometrics PDF posted online

July 28, 2017 (Day 14) - Biometrics letter received in the mail, appointment for 08/08/17

Aug 08, 2017 (Day 24) - Biometrics (fingerprinting) completed

Aug 14, 2017 (Day 30) - Online EGOV status shows "Interview Scheduled, will mail appointment letter"

Aug 16, 2017 (Day 32) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Interview Scheduled, read the letter we mailed you..."

Aug 17, 2017 (Day 33) - Interview Appointment Letter PDF posted online---GOT AN INTERVIEW DATE!!!

Aug 21, 2017 (Day 37) - Interview Appointment Letter received in the mail, appointment for 09/27/17

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Naturalization Interview--- read my experience here

Sep. 27, 2017 (Day 74) - Online MYUSCIS status shows "Oath Ceremony Notice mailed"

Sep. 28, 2017 (Day 75) - Oath Ceremony Letter PDF posted online--Ceremony for 10/19/17

Oct. 02, 2017 (Day 79) -  Oath Ceremony Letter received in the mail

Oct. 19, 2017 (Day 96) -  Oath Ceremony-- read my experience here

 

Applied for US Passport - requested Routine/ Regular Service

Oct. 27, 2017 (Day 00) - Submitted Passport Application, filed in person at Post Office

Oct. 30, 2017 (Day 03) - Online tracker shows application has been received and is under processing

Nov. 08, 2017 (Day 12) - Online tracker shows "in final stages" and projected completion time of 11/13/2017

Nov. 09, 2017 (Day 13) - Passport received in the mail.

Nov. 10, 2017 (Day 14) - Naturalization Certificate received back in the mail.

 

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4 minutes ago, Going through said:

Naturally USCIS is happy to take your money at any time.

Agreed; they even now accept credit cards:jest: https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-expands-credit-card-payment-option-fees Thus, OP could possibly get some cash back, if applicable, from their CC company if they opt for the N-600

2 hours ago, GoBig said:

form N600, part 8. who should be the applicant ?  me or the child ?   whose Signature   do they ask?

"Where to File" section https://www.uscis.gov/n-600:

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If you are a parent completing Form N-600 for a child younger than 14 years of age, you must sign in Part 8.


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OP,

If you can afford the fee, it is never a bad idea for your minor child to have their own Naturalization Certificate IMO. I’ve come across people (on another forum I’m quite active on) who derived citizenship from their parents’ naturalization and of course got their US passports as minors back then. For whatever reasons, the passports got misplaced after they expired, they never bothered to renew for a long period. 

 

Parents subsequently passed away, and they no longer have access to parents naturalization certificates, passport agency of course is refusing to issue new passports now without naturalization certificates. USCIS on the other hand hasn’t been helpful in establishing these adults became USC as minors since they never applied for their own naturalization certificates with form N-600. These people are wishing they (or their parents) applied for their own naturalization certificates back then, which would have saved them from the pillar to post experience they’re having with USCIS and passport agencies. 

 

Worth the peace of mind and safeguarding a minor’s future. Totally worth the price IMO!

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1 hour ago, Sm1smom said:

These people are wishing they (or their parents) applied for their own naturalization certificates back then

*or to renew the expired passports. To not do at least ONE is borderline reckless.


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I don't see why it would be a bad idea to diversify the documents that can be used as a proof of U.S. citizenship if you can afford it. You never know, just in case one of the 2 gets lost at a time when your child needs a proof for his citizenship when applying for a job or something and doesn't have the luxury of waiting for a replacement.  

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thanks for everyone, we can for sure afford $1170 for my minor child(single) to have his own certificate..it has no expiration date and my child can use his own certificate for his own life after he grows up. 

 

for the N600,part8, i will sign my child's full name(YYY) and followed by "( by father: XXX)" and part 10 ,preparer : this will be my information who prepared this form and signed my full name. 

 


 H1b ---> EB-1A (I-140) ---> I-485 AOS(Green Card) ---> 5 years --->  US Citizenship N400 application

  • Day 011/16/2017, e-filing N400
  • Day 3069/18/2018,  interview day--passed and in line for oath.
  • Day 332: 10/15/2018, Oath Day

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