Question about translating Skype Chat Logs?

[payxibka 10,044]

3 minutes ago, Pepe Galleta said:

in here:

https://www.uscis.gov/system/files_force/files/form/i-129finstr.pdf

 

i see this

 

What Evidence Must You Submit? You must submit all evidence requested in these Instructions with your petition. If you fail to submit required evidence, USCIS may reject or deny your petition for failure to submit requested evidence or supporting documents in accordance with 8 CFR part 103.2(b)(1) and these Instructions. Submit the primary evidence listed below to support your petition. If a primary evidence document is not available, you must submit a statement from the appropriate civil authority certifying that the primary evidence is not available. You must then submit secondary evidence such as church or school records, baptismal certificates, U.S. census records, or other evidence to support your claim. If you can establish that secondary evidence is not available, you may submit two or more sworn affidavits by persons who are not parties to your petition, who were living at the time of the event, and who have direct personal knowledge of the event.

 

while i agree with you, it will be always tricky. if you look up online, you get totally different perspectives on the topics

 

i guess as it was mentioned above, we will never know  thanks so much

We do know because my petition was approved without 

[jcra615 53]

1 minute ago, Pepe Galleta said:

in here:

https://www.uscis.gov/system/files_force/files/form/i-129finstr.pdf

 

i see this

 

What Evidence Must You Submit? You must submit all evidence requested in these Instructions with your petition. If you fail to submit required evidence, USCIS may reject or deny your petition for failure to submit requested evidence or supporting documents in accordance with 8 CFR part 103.2(b)(1) and these Instructions. Submit the primary evidence listed below to support your petition. If a primary evidence document is not available, you must submit a statement from the appropriate civil authority certifying that the primary evidence is not available. You must then submit secondary evidence such as church or school records, baptismal certificates, U.S. census records, or other evidence to support your claim. If you can establish that secondary evidence is not available, you may submit two or more sworn affidavits by persons who are not parties to your petition, who were living at the time of the event, and who have direct personal knowledge of the event.

 

while i agree with you, it will be always tricky. if you look up online, you get totally different perspectives on the topics

 

i guess as it was mentioned above, we will never know  thanks so much

Don't worry about it. Some people are militant about only submitting exactly the list of required documents stated on the forms. Like I said, I did the same and had no issues. I also submitted a ton of stuff for the Adjustment of Status, and the Removal of Conditions, and I have had no issues or ever gotten an RFE. 

[payxibka 10,044]

1 minute ago, Carley said:

Don't worry about it. Some people are militant about only submitting exactly the list of required documents stated on the forms. Like I said, I did the same and had no issues. I also submitted a ton of stuff for the Adjustment of Status, and the Removal of Conditions, and I have had no issues or ever gotten an RFE. 

And we have had people who have received rfe when they have submitted an overabundance of information because their was so much the adjudicator missed the critical evidence.  

 

Your petition,  your decision.   But if someone asks do I need to translate all of these chats, the answer is and always will be, NO.

[jcra615 53]

Just now, payxibka said:

Your petition,  your decision.   But if someone asks do I need to translate all of these chats, the answer is and always will be, NO.

Sure. Back to our consensus from the beginning! 

[payxibka 10,044]

1 minute ago, Carley said:

Sure. Back to our consensus from the beginning! 

But the no is not for the reason you describe as they don't need to know the content,  just that they don't care about it in the first place 

[jcra615 53]

6 minutes ago, payxibka said:

But the no is not for the reason you describe as they don't need to know the content,  just that they don't care about it in the first place 

May not be! Many, many people submit them with the I-129f, and/or bring them to interviews and have found use for them  

[payxibka 10,044]

1 minute ago, Carley said:

May not be! Many, many people submit them with the I-129f, and/or bring them to interviews and have found use for them  

I never said they aren't useful to be brought to the interview.  My point is only that it is not necessary to an approvable petition,  nor does it magically make an otherwise unapprovable petition, approvable.

[carmel34 3,531]

Some people confuse K1 with CR1 (spouse) visa.  The CR1's I-130 petition asks for "evidence of ongoing marital union."  Many suggest telephone call records and chat logs to support the ongoing marital union claim when the two spouses each live in different countries, and some COs (especially in high-fraud locations) have asked for it at the visa interview abroad.  Form I-129F petition for K1 (fiance/fiancee) does not ask for this evidence at all since the couple is not married yet and only have to prove that they have met in person once in the last two years.  They are two different visas, different criteria, different evidence.  Don't confuse the two.  

Edited November 6, 2018 by carmel34
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[payxibka 10,044]

19 minutes ago, carmel34 said:

Some people confuse K1 with CR1 (spouse) visa.  The CR1's I-130 petition asks for "evidence of ongoing marital union."  Many suggest telephone call records and chat logs to support the ongoing marital union claim when the two spouses each live in different countries, and some COs (especially in high-fraud locations) have asked for it at the visa interview abroad.  Form I-129F petition for K1 (fiance/fiancee) does not ask for this evidence at all since the couple is not married yet and only have to prove that they have met in person once in the last two years.  They are two different visas, different criteria, different evidence.  Don't confuse the two.  

Can you imagine how much faster the uscis could approve petitions if they didn't have to sort through all the extra pieces of paper?  People wonder why it takes 6 months,  here is one reason 

Edited November 6, 2018 by payxibka

[Jenna Ting 27]

6 hours ago, Perfect two 💑 said:

I provide the chat, call and video call logs and more during the petition stage. It is not needed, and people said it's only needed during interview stage, however, sometimes, the consulate officer doesn't even asking or looking at the evidence during the interview.

Yes. That's true. The CO didn't even ask for the evidences of ongoing relationship during the interview .The result of the interview  depends on what the applicant responds or your other documents are correct or not ,especially they'll like to know if you can sponsor your beneficiary. So it's better to get all you can prove for your relationship at the first stage.