Trump tells Duterte of 2 US nuclear submarines in Korean waters

[JimandChristy 1,689]

It's amazing how far the right will go to justify any of Trump's actions. He's constantly leaking classified information and I guarantee if any of our previous presidents Obama, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I, Reagan in my lifetime did any of what Trump is doing they would be out of a job right now.

 

It's dangerous to accept what Trump is doing is normal, it is NOT. The guy loves himself too much and his ego could potentially put this country in danger.

Edited May 25, 2017 by JimandChristy

[CaliCat 3,957]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

They can hide. 

 

Ah! Stealth is their operational and tactical advantage, then! We're on to something!!

 

In this case, if I were looking for an American sub in the Pacific, it would take me forever to find one because the Pacific is vast, and because submarines hide under water, which other ships, such as a carrier, can't do. 

 

In this case, if someone told me the subs I'm looking for are off the coast of California (or Japan, or NK) it would make my task much, much easier, because it would reduce the search area in the immense ocean, to a much smaller set of coordinates.

 

That is the reason why the information Trump revealed is significant. Everyone knows our subs roam about, but what they don't know is in which specific area of the oceans they are. By opening his mouth, the so-called president gave a more precise indication of their location, and therefore revealed significant information.

 

See? Once we start asking the right questions, it becomes easier to understand the argument.

 

 

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 minute ago, JimandChristy said:

It's amazing how far the right will go to justify any of Trump's actions. He's constantly leaking classified information and I guarantee if any of our previous presidents Obama, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I, Reagan in my lifetime did any of what Trump is doing now they would be out of a job right now.

 

I think there is a real inability to see the big picture, which is why critical thinking can help. 

 

None of the presidents you mentioned were debased or stupid enough to even consider doing what Trump is doing. 

[JimandChristy 1,689]

5 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

Ah! Stealth is their operational and tactical advantage, then! We're on to something!!

 

In this case, if I were looking for an American sub in the Pacific, it would take me forever to find one because the Pacific is vast, and because submarines hide under water, which other ships, such as a carrier, can't do. 

 

In this case, if someone told me the subs I'm looking for are off the coast of California (or Japan, or NK) it would make my task much, much easier, because it would reduce the search area in the immense ocean, to a much smaller set of coordinates.

 

That is the reason why the information Trump revealed is significant. Everyone knows our subs roam about, but what they don't know is in which specific area of the oceans they are. By opening his mouth, the so-called president gave a more precise indication of their location, and therefore revealed significant information.

 

See? Once we start asking the right questions, it becomes easier to understand the argument.

 

 

It is pathetic that you have to even explain this. 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

17 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

I am not saying we should get rid of the subs. I am raising a point to another poster who said that everyone knows we have subs in the Pacific, and that everyone knows where the Pacific is, the implication being that when the so-called president disclosed the location of two of our nuclear subs, he did not disclose anything everyone already didn't know. 

 

So, rather than proposing we get rid of them, I'd say we should inquire as to the reasons the Navy keeps them. I am sure they must have a reason, otherwise we would not have subs, wouldn't you agree?

The President did not give the location of subs unles you have grid coordinate,  your just making stuff up

[CaliCat 3,957]

2 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

The President did not give the location of subs unles you have grid coordinate,  your just making stuff up

 

Covered a few posts back already. 

Edited May 25, 2017 by CaliCat

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Just now, CaliCat said:

 

Covered a few posts back. 

You have grid a few posts back ? 

 

Guess what there are Russian subs off the east coast of the US 

[JimandChristy 1,689]

3 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

I think there is a real inability to see the big picture, which is why critical thinking can help. 

 

None of the presidents you mentioned were debased or stupid enough to even consider doing what Trump is doing. 

Exactly, they all got criticized, all of them, every single one of them, but they never took it personally, they knew it was part of the job, they were the President of the United States. They knew their role, what they were undertaking and what a GREAT responsibility they had. They could disagree with the opposition party on policy but they never made it personal against them or the press.

 

Now we have a President who attacks anyone who says anything against him, the press, democrats and even some members of his own party. He's acts and behaves like a child, he has to take credit for everything and absolves all blame when he makes a mistake. It's the frequency of it all that is alarming, the guy is clearly unhinged and narcissistic. 

[Mr&Mrs G. 903]

14 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Guess what there are Russian subs off the east coast of the US 

Don't be saying stuff like that, they are already paranoid enough as it is 

 

News headline tomorrow, Russian subs off east coast, full invasion starts when Trump gets home, source is member of VJ community  

 

Anyone fancy a game of Battleship 

Edited May 25, 2017 by Mr&Mrs G.

[CaliCat 3,957]

22 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

You have grid a few posts back ? 

 

Guess what there are Russian subs off the east coast of the US 

 

And if I were looking for Russian subs, knowing that they are off the US coast would drastically reduce my search area. 

 

here is another example, that might help you:

 

Imagine you lost the only set of car keys you have. You live in a 10-acre lot, and you know the keys are somewhere in that area. Wouldn't it be much easier to find them if someone told you the keys are somewhere in the living room? Surely, you would need to search the living room, but it's a far better proposition than having to sift through 10 acres.

 

That's why what Trump said was significant.

Edited May 25, 2017 by CaliCat

[CaliCat 3,957]

23 minutes ago, JimandChristy said:

Exactly, they all got criticized, all of them, every single one of them, but they never took it personally, they knew it was part of the job, they were the President of the United States. They knew their role, what they were undertaking and what a GREAT responsibility they had. They could disagree with the opposition party on policy but they never made it personal against them or the press.

 

Now we have a President who attacks anyone who says anything against him, the press, democrats and even some members of his own party. He's acts and behaves like a child, he has to take credit for everything and absolves all blame when he makes a mistake. It's the frequency of it all that is alarming, the guy is clearly unhinged and narcissistic. 

 

Psychologists have been questioning Trump's mental capacity. His acts may indicate there is something the matter with his mental health, which would explain some of his acts. Out so-called president fails in understanding the job he ran for. 

 

 

Edited May 25, 2017 by CaliCat

[JimandChristy 1,689]

2 minutes ago, CaliCat said:

 

Psychologists have been questioning Trump's mental capacities. His acts may indicate there is something the matter with his mental health, which would explain some of his acts. Out so-called president fails in understanding the job he ran for. 

 

 

Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder

In order for a person to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) they must meet five or more of the following  symptoms:

• Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
• Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
• Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
• Requires excessive admiration
• Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
• Is exploitative of others, e.g., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
• Lacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
• Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
• Regularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Sounds like Trump to me.

[CaliCat 3,957]

1 minute ago, JimandChristy said:

Symptoms of Narcissistic Personality Disorder

In order for a person to be diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) they must meet five or more of the following  symptoms:

• Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
• Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
• Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
• Requires excessive admiration
• Has a very strong sense of entitlement, e.g., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
• Is exploitative of others, e.g., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
• Lacks empathy, e.g., is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
• Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
• Regularly shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

Sounds like Trump to me.

 

Might as well just post a picture of the man, and skip the symptoms! LOL

 

 

[jg121783 3,921]

Oh the scandal. Trump said there are subs in an area of geopolitical turmoil. Anyone with half a brain would know that is the case. If we didn't have subs in that area that would be a problem. Trump didn't tell anyone anything they didn't know already. This is another non issue that the left wants to make the scandal of the century. Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong though when she told the world about our nuclear weapons launch procedure during a presidential debate. That is okay because she is not a Republican I guess.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

7 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Oh the scandal. Trump said there are subs in an area of geopolitical turmoil. Anyone with half a brain would know that is the case. If we didn't have subs in that area that would be a problem. Trump didn't tell anyone anything they didn't know already. This is another non issue that the left wants to make the scandal of the century. Hillary Clinton did nothing wrong though when she told the world about our nuclear weapons launch procedure during a presidential debate. That is okay because she is not a Republican I guess.

We are way past Trump sub thing. We are on to personality disorders and childesh names