Translation Certification: Please Help

[orlandoiam 0]

Hello! I'm almost finished but my fiancee got his birth certificate and divorce certificate translated but the company certified it with a blue stamp:

"Certified Correct Translation: (the translator's name) (translator's signed signature)" We then were also given a card with the company's address.

This is not exactly the USCIS form-- the translator never actually states that they are fluent in English and Thai. They also do not have the address or date on the document itself.

The below is what USCIS specifically asks for.

I typed name , certify that I am fluent (conversant) in the English and

languages, and that the above/attached document is an accurate translation of the

document attached entitled .

Typed Name Signature

Date Address

Should I get the documents re-translated? Will I receive an RF if I don't? What do you recommend? I actually sent the USCIS form with the documents but the company didn't sign them. Auuggh! Should I go to a different translator?

[Mononoke28 137]

Are you fluent in both languages? Is the document was translated correctly? If yes, then you could copy the entire translation and certify it yourself. Same thing, as long as it's translated and you can prove that it is correct.

[NYGirl 0]

Are you fluent in both languages? Is the document was translated correctly? If yes, then you could copy the entire translation and certify it yourself. Same thing, as long as it's translated and you can prove that it is correct.

It is not suggested to certify your own documents, and since she's the petition and that's considers to be her documents as well she shouldn't translate it.

[Otto 83]

Are you fluent in both languages? Is the document was translated correctly? If yes, then you could copy the entire translation and certify it yourself. Same thing, as long as it's translated and you can prove that it is correct.

I realize we're all in the spirit of do-it-yourself but one needs to think about the future use of our legal documents.

Hague Convention Abolishing the Requirement of Legalization for Foreign Public Documents

Documents issued in one country which need to be used in another country must be "authenticated" or "legalized" before they can be recognized as valid in the foreign country. This is a process in which various seals are placed on the document. Such documents range from powers of attorney, affidavits, birth, death and marriages records, incorporation papers, deeds, patent applications, home studies and other legal papers. The number and type of authentication certificates you will need to obtain depend on the nature of the document and whether or not the foreign country is a party to the multilateral treaty on "legalization" of documents.

A- If your document is intended for use in a country which is a party to a treaty called the Hague Convention Abolishing the Requirement of Legalization for Foreign Public Documents ("Hague Legalization Convention") (countries listed below), obtaining a special "apostille" certificate is generally all that is required. The procedure is explained in detail in our separate information flyer available via our home page on the Internet or through our automated fax service. See "Additional Information" below.

B- If the country where the document will be used is not a party to the Convention, you will have to begin the cumbersome, time-consuming process of obtaining a series of certifications known as the "chain authentication method". This is literally a paper chase in which authorities will have to attest to the validity of a succession of seals beginning with your document and ending with the seal of the foreign embassy or consulate in the United States.

Source

[payxibka 10,048]

Are you fluent in both languages? Is the document was translated correctly? If yes, then you could copy the entire translation and certify it yourself. Same thing, as long as it's translated and you can prove that it is correct.

It is not suggested to certify your own documents, and since she's the petition and that's considers to be her documents as well she shouldn't translate it.

Where is this suggested? Can you cite a authoritative source?

[payxibka 10,048]

Are you fluent in both languages? Is the document was translated correctly? If yes, then you could copy the entire translation and certify it yourself. Same thing, as long as it's translated and you can prove that it is correct.

I realize we're all in the spirit of do-it-yourself but one needs to think about the future use of our legal documents.

Hague Convention Abolishing the Requirement of Legalization for Foreign Public Documents

Documents issued in one country which need to be used in another country must be "authenticated" or "legalized" before they can be recognized as valid in the foreign country. This is a process in which various seals are placed on the document. Such documents range from powers of attorney, affidavits, birth, death and marriages records, incorporation papers, deeds, patent applications, home studies and other legal papers. The number and type of authentication certificates you will need to obtain depend on the nature of the document and whether or not the foreign country is a party to the multilateral treaty on "legalization" of documents.

A- If your document is intended for use in a country which is a party to a treaty called the Hague Convention Abolishing the Requirement of Legalization for Foreign Public Documents ("Hague Legalization Convention") (countries listed below), obtaining a special "apostille" certificate is generally all that is required. The procedure is explained in detail in our separate information flyer available via our home page on the Internet or through our automated fax service. See "Additional Information" below.

B- If the country where the document will be used is not a party to the Convention, you will have to begin the cumbersome, time-consuming process of obtaining a series of certifications known as the "chain authentication method". This is literally a paper chase in which authorities will have to attest to the validity of a succession of seals beginning with your document and ending with the seal of the foreign embassy or consulate in the United States.

Source

I think this is good advice to consider... Self certification may in fact meet the short term threshold (ie.. USCIS petition) but may not pass muster later if this same document is needed for another purpose.....

[orlandoiam 0]

Well, I'm in Thailand and it doesn't appear that I fall under the Hague act...which means I have to have it certified. Most probably I'll just do them again. There's a place not far from our apartment that guarantees certification (over the web) anyways. Waste of time and money (in the short run)...but probably preferable to having questions asked later on. Damn, well....ALMOST finished.

the more i read through this forum the more helpful it is. but the newbies (me included seem to be asking the same questions over and over and over and over....) i think it's all the stress. Does anyone else have a problem with the search engine... very often i get a message something like-- visajourney has an overload of people... please attempt your search at another time. is it my computer, or just a bunch of stressed out fellow visa chasers?

[athena_ny 1]

Are you fluent in both languages? Is the document was translated correctly? If yes, then you could copy the entire translation and certify it yourself. Same thing, as long as it's translated and you can prove that it is correct.

I realize we're all in the spirit of do-it-yourself but one needs to think about the future use of our legal documents.

Hague Convention Abolishing the Requirement of Legalization for Foreign Public Documents

Documents issued in one country which need to be used in another country must be "authenticated" or "legalized" before they can be recognized as valid in the foreign country. This is a process in which various seals are placed on the document. Such documents range from powers of attorney, affidavits, birth, death and marriages records, incorporation papers, deeds, patent applications, home studies and other legal papers. The number and type of authentication certificates you will need to obtain depend on the nature of the document and whether or not the foreign country is a party to the multilateral treaty on "legalization" of documents.

A- If your document is intended for use in a country which is a party to a treaty called the Hague Convention Abolishing the Requirement of Legalization for Foreign Public Documents ("Hague Legalization Convention") (countries listed below), obtaining a special "apostille" certificate is generally all that is required. The procedure is explained in detail in our separate information flyer available via our home page on the Internet or through our automated fax service. See "Additional Information" below.

B- If the country where the document will be used is not a party to the Convention, you will have to begin the cumbersome, time-consuming process of obtaining a series of certifications known as the "chain authentication method". This is literally a paper chase in which authorities will have to attest to the validity of a succession of seals beginning with your document and ending with the seal of the foreign embassy or consulate in the United States.

Source

And how would this stop us from getting a certified translation in the future? I say, if you can do it yourself and they accept it for this purpose, do it. I'm not wasting my money on a translation that they will accept if I do it myself.

[nate&nid 0]

Nid had hers done at the USCNET Translation Center, 4/56 Sukhumvit Soi 21. The translator just stamped the bottom of the page with the same blue-ink stamp and signed it ... I guess it was good enough to get thru VSC because we did not do the USCIS Certification by Translator, I thought the stamp was good enough

[Bobbie 1]

Hello! I'm almost finished but my fiancee got his birth certificate and divorce certificate translated but the company certified it with a blue stamp:

"Certified Correct Translation: (the translator's name) (translator's signed signature)" We then were also given a card with the company's address.

This is not exactly the USCIS form-- the translator never actually states that they are fluent in English and Thai. They also do not have the address or date on the document itself.

The below is what USCIS specifically asks for.

I typed name , certify that I am fluent (conversant) in the English and

languages, and that the above/attached document is an accurate translation of the

document attached entitled .

Typed Name Signature

Date Address

Should I get the documents re-translated? Will I receive an RF if I don't? What do you recommend? I actually sent the USCIS form with the documents but the company didn't sign them. Auuggh! Should I go to a different translator?

I would suggest typing that information and taking it back to the translator. For any of us, we should type that information and have it ready to hand it to the translator. Being proactive seems to really be the stratedgy to get through immigration.

[orlandoiam 0]

Actually, I did that. But the mission failed. which leads me to believe i either hit a "shady" translator or some little bureaucracy/money making thingie.

[ladywhite 0]

Actually, I did that. But the mission failed. which leads me to believe i either hit a "shady" translator or some little bureaucracy/money making thingie.

If you would like it all get translated by the government officer with stamps and everything, go to the Ministry of Foriegn affairs on Sriayuttha road. They have this kind of service.