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Hello All,

We are preparing our docs to send for removing my wife's conditions on green card.

We got married in 2014, my wife came here 2015, we have a daughter 1yr.

we have following list of documents that we are planning to send:

  1. copy of green card
  2. NYS photo IDs both of us indicating same address
  3. Daughter's birth certificate
  4. tax transcripts for 2014 and 2015 (filed jointly married)
  5. Car Title on both names
  6. Health Insurance cards both of our names and daughters as well
  7. Electric bills on both names
  8. BJs membership cards on both names
  9. Bank Statement on both names

I was wondering if you think this might be enough.

Also, we opened a joint bank account when she came here, however, we got busy with pregnancy and daughter, we didn't use this account at all. I had all the bill payments setup online. There is no activity in the join bank account.

My question is should I include Bank statements in the package or not?

thanks for you help.

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I'd still include it even if there's no activity. It's proof that you guys exist as a joint entity. If they ask, you can explain the circumstance.

If you still have bank accounts in your individual names (without your spouse on them), you should fix that. They do like it when they can see that the bank statement goes from "x" to "x and y".

Regards,
Bill

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Personally, I would not send in statements from a joint account that you do not you show activity. The point is to demonstrate that you have co-mingled your assets, which that account does not do.

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Married December 19, 2014

I-130 Petition sent January 14, 2015
NOA1 date January 20, 2015 (NSC)

NOA2 date May 28, 2015 :dance::dance::dance:

Mailed to NVC June 4, 2015

NVC Received June 10, 2015

NVC Case Number Assigned June 23, 2015

NVC AoS Invoice via Mail June 24, 2015

NVC Selected Agent Over Phone June 30, 2015 (Unable to logon to CEAC)

NVC IV Invoice via email received July 1, 2015

NVC AoS/IV Package Mailed July 2, 2015

NVC AoS & IV Fee Paid Online (CEAC is working) July 6. 2015

NVC Document Scan Date July 6, 2015

NCV AoS & IV Fee marked as paid in CEAC July, 7 2015

NVC DS 260 Completed July 8, 2015

NVC CC July 30, 2015 (24 days after scan date, about 2 months post NOA2)

Interview Scheduled on August 26, 2015

Interview P4 Email Received August 27, 2015

Medical in Islamabad September 2, 2015

Interview Date September 22, 2015 CANCELLED (Embassy is Over scheduled) :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Interview Scheduled on September 10, 2015

Interview Date October 14, 2015 APPROVED

Visa Issued October 16, 2015, 9 months start to finish

POE JFK October 26, 2015

GC in Hand Jan 8, 2016

RoC I-751 NOA1 August 31, 2017 (Vermont Service Center)

Biometrics October 2, 2017

I551 Stamp in Passport August 2, 2018

18 Month Extension Letter August 3, 2018

Applied for Naturalization N-400 Online July 30, 2018

Biometrics August 23, 2018

10 year GC is in production September 17, 2018

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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I had / have the same problem. I sent it, to show that we opened it together and it was still opened and then explained the reason why we did not have any activities. I am still in the process of ROC so let's see.. that's the best I could do. the best is to disclose everything. so no RFE are sent

03/28/2014 - Married in New York Clerks Office

Adjusting from H1B

5/28/2014 - Sent AOS package
5/30/2014 - AOS Package Delivered
6/06/2014 - Text and email notification received
6/10/2014 - 4 Hard copies of NOA1 received
6/13/2014 - Biometrics appointment letter in the mail

6/17/2014 - Walk-in biometrics at Varick Street
6/27/2014 - Scheduled appointment for biometrics

6/30/2014 - Notification from USCIS, Testing & Interview

8/13/2014 - EAD and AP approved

8/18/2014 - EAD received

10/15/2014 - Interview at New York Federal Plaza and APPROVED email and text at the end of day

10/21/2014 - Green card in the mail

ROC

07/16/2016 - Sent I-751 to VSC

07/18/2016 - Package delivered

07/21/2016 - Check cashed

07/29/2016 - Received NOA1 dated 07/19/2016

08/08/2016 - Biometrics walk-in successful

08/17/2016 - Scheduled appointment for biometrics

07/10/2017 - Approval Letter received dated 07/06/2017

07/20/2017 - Green card in the mail

03/28/2018 - Divorce granted
CITIZENSHIP

07/17/2019 - Sent N400 Online -  5 years residency rule

07/23/2019 - Received NOA for biometrics

08/05/2019 - Biometrics appointment 

09/30/2020 - Interview - Approved

01/13/2021 - Oath Ceremony

01/13/2021 - Applied for passport at USPS

02/02/2021 - Status "In Process" 

02/18/2021 - Passport Received

 

 
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Opening a joint bank account is a one time event that happened probably in an hour. Even people with fake marriages are capable of opening a joint account.

An ongoing account with no activity is poor proof of an ongoing relationship.

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By that logic sending multiple credit card accounts showing the spouse added to them all, but with little no activity would be suspicious, despite six figures available to spend on the card.

I disagree, as both examples demonstrate a clear financial link, and trust.

In the same way that USCIS really don't care about how you conduct things within your marriage - only that it was legitimate, I am sure they really don't care how you run your finances, but having another piece of evidence with both names on isn't going to hurt, even with little or no activity.

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CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

 I-751 Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

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