CR1 after k1 (edited for accuracy)

[Alaska2012 462]

All your posts about potentially getting denied makes you seem really desperate to move to the US. If all else fails your fiancé can always move to Tunisia!

[Selmaben 0]

Where there is a will, there is a way. I would strongly advise you to reflect on your relationship before you begin this journey, it is long no matter what the route. You stated: what would i do with the marriage if it is denied. This is the hurdle you tackle as a couple after, not before. The denial for a married couple is not the end of the visa, it is an extended exercise in proving your love a bit more. You are also stating you are from a high fraud country, which France is not, so are you a national from somewhere else?

Yes i am tunusian student in france (legal resident)

What is the solution if denial is not the end of marriage ?

[kyrachos 11]

Yes i am tunusian student in france (legal resident)

What is the solution if denial is not the end of marriage ?

You would leave your fiance if you didn't get the visa? priorities. the solution is that if you get denied, you fight it in whatever way is possible or you make a different plan--both of you live in Tunisia or France (if your legal status allows) or another country...very few legitimate couples would break up over a denial. if you want to be together, NOTHING will stop you. If you simply want to go to America, the system will hopefully work against you...

[Mike-eeh and Odie 192]

You would leave your fiance if you didn't get the visa? priorities. the solution is that if you get denied, you fight it in whatever way is possible or you make a different plan--both of you live in Tunisia or France (if your legal status allows) or another country...very few legitimate couples would break up over a denial. if you want to be together, NOTHING will stop you. If you simply want to go to America, the system will hopefully work against you...

That's a pretty blind and unemphatic reply. In some situations it rather behooves the petitioner for their fiance to go to America. Me personally, I don't think I could move to the Philippines considering my medical condition, and the state of the Philippines health establishments. Likewise, some petitioners may have well-established careers that would greatly benefit a newly formed family, rather than quitting a job and taking chances on a new job which may pay far less in a 3rd world country.

That said, what normal person would choose to live and/or raise children in a 3rd world country? People by nature always wants what is best for them and their families; and when you think about it that way, it only makes sense to want to come to America.

[kyrachos 11]

That's a pretty blind and unemphatic reply. In some situations it rather behooves the petitioner for their fiance to go to America. Me personally, I don't think I could move to the Philippines considering my medical condition, and the state of the Philippines health establishments. Likewise, some petitioners may have well-established careers that would greatly benefit a newly formed family, rather than quitting a job and taking chances on a new job which may pay far less in a 3rd world country.

That said, what normal person would choose to live and/or raise children in a 3rd world country? People by nature always wants what is best for them and their families; and when you think about it that way, it only makes sense to want to come to America.

so you would dissolve your relationship if a visa didn't work out (as selmaben implied..."What is the solution if denial is not the end of marriage ?") or am I misunderstanding her quote due to the language barrier (if that is the case, I apologize for misinterpreting it)? I didn't claim it wouldn't behoove the couple to set up a life together in America. She asked what to do if they get denied other than end their marriage. The answer is fight the decision if possible (depends on the visa/reasons for denial) or have the American relocate (or live apart and just see each other for visits). If the choice is stay together outside of the US or break up because the beneficiary is denied, who is going to choose the latter without trying to make something work? A relationship that hinges on a visa is quite a fragile one, no? I'm not saying that the hardships and stress that come from living apart can't suck the life/love out of a relationship, but this couple hasn't even applied yet and the OP is implying (again, from my understanding) that she doesn't want to be with her fiance if he can't bring her to the US.

Edited February 8, 2016 by kyrachos

[Selmaben 0]

That's a pretty blind and unemphatic reply. In some situations it rather behooves the petitioner for their fiance to go to America. Me personally, I don't think I could move to the Philippines considering my medical condition, and the state of the Philippines health establishments. Likewise, some petitioners may have well-established careers that would greatly benefit a newly formed family, rather than quitting a job and taking chances on a new job which may pay far less in a 3rd world country.

That said, what normal person would choose to live and/or raise children in a 3rd world country? People by nature always wants what is best for them and their families; and when you think about it that way, it only makes sense to want to come to America.

This site is helpful but there is people who pretend that they help but they put personal judgement and useless comment

If was in there place i would ask myself if this answer will help or not before posting it

Personal judgement and advices OUTSIDE visajourney are useless we are here to help eachothers in this journey

[dmck 80]

If you are worried, be sure to document things well. Visit each other a couple of times, and keep all receipts of meeting plus take some photos etc. Get a joint thing together, stuff that couples do. If they deny the CR1 visa, then there is some additional steps that can be taken, they really want to see that you two love each other and are really a couple. Since you are very concerned about a k1 denial, then focus only on the CR1 route. In the end, the time difference may be very minor in terms of being separated. My wife and I went the K1 route, and her k1 visa took 1 year to get approved. We might as well had gone for the CR1 route instead.

[Selmaben 0]

If you are worried, be sure to document things well. Visit each other a couple of times, and keep all receipts of meeting plus take some photos etc. Get a joint thing together, stuff that couples do. If they deny the CR1 visa, then there is some additional steps that can be taken, they really want to see that you two love each other and are really a couple. Since you are very concerned about a k1 denial, then focus only on the CR1 route. In the end, the time difference may be very minor in terms of being separated. My wife and I went the K1 route, and her k1 visa took 1 year to get approved. We might as well had gone for the CR1 route instead.

Thank you for your answer!

But the CR1 can be denied too,so it is not better than the K1

[dmck 80]

Very true CR1 also gets denied. So let's give the OP some facts to help her. K1 denial rate is currently 14% of all applications processed. 130 (mind you this includes all variants besides just spouse) is at 10%. That's significantly different. But since she is so worried about denials, some information to guide her. It seems she has some red flags that she is going to have to address

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

Thank you for your answer!

But the CR1 can be denied too,so it is not better than the K1

As I said in a previous post in one of your threads :

A.) If a K1 gets refused and returned it will expire. End of story. You have to re file.

B.) If a CR1 gets refused and returned it will be reviewed by USCIS and the petitioner gets a NOID/NOIR letter with requested information

for rebuttal and if they are satisfied with his rebuttal they will again forward it to the embassy with recommendation to approve, no re filing

necessary. It currently can take about 6-12 months for a review. If they are not satisfied with his rebuttal they will deny the petition which does

not happen very often unless it is for a very good reason.

Pick A or B, those are your two options.

[Selmaben 0]

As I said in a previous post in one of your threads :

A.) If a K1 gets refused and returned it will expire. End of story. You have to re file.

B.) If a CR1 gets refused and returned it will be reviewed by USCIS and the petitioner gets a NOID/NOIR letter with requested information

for rebuttal and if they are satisfied with his rebuttal they will again forward it to the embassy with recommendation to approve, no re filing

necessary. It currently can take about 6-12 months for a review. If they are not satisfied with his rebuttal they will deny the petition which does

not happen very often unless it is for a very good reason.

Pick A or B, those are your two options.

A seems easier,I will take A and try to collect the more proofs i can ,if it doesn't work we will go for B