Cologne attacks: mayor lambasted for telling women to keep men at arm's length

[smilesammich 10,727]

I think we simply have a massive difference in how we see immigration.

agree with you there, 100%. you don't even want to know my opinions on immigration. i'll spare you.

[ExPatty 502]

I don't necessarily agree.

I do buy the idea that if you grow up in an environment where women are your property, you believe it to be right because that's just "how it is." To put it into perspective, women did not have the right to vote in any "democratic" country until a little over 100 years ago. It didn't become common until about 80 years ago.

Today, we view any system or culture that denies women the right to vote as backwards, and far into the "wrong." But I don't necessarily believe that men in the mid 1800s consciously knew it was wrong. Rather, I'd say they didn't know any better, because that's just "how it is" and there was no historical precedence to suggest it should be otherwise.

Likewise, if you're raised in a culture where women are required or pressured into covering up so as to not appear as "fair game", you'd be quite confused seeing women walking around in tight clothing, unaccompanied by a male. If, in addition, you have no formal education and have had little or no exposure to outside cultures, I'm not surprised that you would struggle to adjust to the notion that drunk women are not "fair game."

In that sense, I think the far left has shot itself in the foot for decades, particularly in Europe. Rather than attempting to absorb and assimilate people into the general culture, there has been a narrative and (probably genuine) belief that people would just leave their medieval practices at home. When statistics indicate that this just simply isn't true in many cases, the debate has been shut down and silenced as "racist."

The U.S. largely hasn't had this problem in the same magnitude as Europe has. Without having any sources to back it up, a guess would have it that the U.S. traditionally has had a lower tolerance for political correctness or using "cultural differences" as an excuse for special treatment or for committing crimes. Hence, the perceived vast differences that existed in immigrant communities in New York or Chicago 100 years ago are largely washed out today.

Exactly.

agree with you there, 100%. you don't even want to know my opinions on immigration. i'll spare you.

I kind of do but it might blow my mind so I am not sure, I will trust your judgement on that. My philosophy seems to be motivated by a faith in humans but not in humankind.

[smilesammich 10,727]

I kind of do but it might blow my mind so I am not sure, I will trust your judgement on that. My philosophy seems to be motivated by a faith in humans but not in humankind.

mine is motivated by faith in humanity's basic right to free movement. not a popular philosophy.

[ExPatty 502]

mine is motivated by faith in humanity's basic right to free movement. not a popular philosophy.

That is a rare argument but I won't deny it has some merit to it. Ultimately I like my walls, though if I were on the wrong side of one I might feel differently.

[JayJayH 546]

mine is motivated by faith in humanity's basic right to free movement. not a popular philosophy.

That is a rare argument but I won't deny it has some merit to it. Ultimately I like my walls, though if I were on the wrong side of one I might feel differently.

I would agree that it has merit to it, and frankly, it's a good principle.

I don't believe though, that humanity the way it is "set up" today would be ready for something like it, especially as it would likely collapse any strides made in terms of labor laws and social security and infrastructure.

Imagine the U.S. population doubling within the span of 5 years.. Immigration laws aren't in place to avoid immigration, but rather in place to protect welfare systems, social fabric and to make societal planning predictable.

[lostinblue 1,989]

mine is motivated by faith in humanity's basic right to free movement. not a popular philosophy.

[smilesammich 10,727]

mine is motivated by faith in humanity's basic right to free movement. not a popular philosophy.

lol, bare naked islam dot com contributes to solution with 'immigrant rapist' jpeg. reminds me of the old xenophobic government propaganda of yore...

[Darnell 8,478]

Poor women

man, that gives me creative ideas for a new dating web portal. Thanks, Toofies !

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

mine is motivated by faith in humanity's basic right to free movement. not a popular philosophy.

So you would be cool with some squatters freely moving into your home or perhaps a couple of shantys on the lawn

[smilesammich 10,727]

So you would be cool with some squatters freely moving into your home or perhaps a couple of shantys on the lawn

i rent. not in the terms of my lease. if the owners opt to put in shantys or add tenants, ill let you know how it works out.

[ExPatty 502]

i rent. not in the terms of my lease. if the owners opt to put in shantys or add tenants, ill let you know how it works out.

before or after you summarily break your lease and move into a better apartment again?

[smilesammich 10,727]

before or after you summarily break your lease and move into a better apartment again?

i can't really say what I'd do, i have to stay in this school district, find a similar size place..blah blah.seems silly to think about,considering how far fetched the idea is.

[Darnell 8,478]

geez - i am snickering about the change of label -

it used to be 'groups of men'

now it's 'gangs of men'

label to describe those islamists getting all grope-y in Cologne.

[Darnell 8,478]

i can't really say what I'd do, i have to stay in this school district, find a similar size place..blah blah.seems silly to think about,considering how far fetched the idea is.

whoa ! so,

are ya saying,

you don't have any free movement, at the moment ? That's gotta suck !

[smilesammich 10,727]

whoa ! so,

are ya saying,

you don't have any free movement, at the moment ? That's gotta suck !

not the free movement I was referring to, but yeah I live here of my own free will. no worries!