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And Aaron, remember, there are many petitions where the couple met face-to-face too. They may not have any online evidence of their relationship. But they would compensate in other ways, such as photos of them with friends, phone logs, etc. Online evidence is not required. To me, a fiance case could have different evidence than a marriage case as more evidence of them being entrenched in each other's lives as a legally married couple is more documentary and their daily interaction may be less evident.



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When I said they see each other and go on dates then if there is chemistry they will proceed to get engaged. Obviously like little love birds the minute they get back from their date they are going to text each other all night then all day everyday. You assume because the OP has not mention any of this. The relationship will only grow with constant communication, there will be plenty of evidence to show by the time he petitions. He plans to marry and petitions immediately. Once again, you presume that they will have plenty of evidence based on your feelings rather than what the OP has posted. I personally don't think he is going to meet, engage, marry, bring her with him all in three months. It's never that easy.

But as far as "arranged" marriages if you want to call it that, I think all marrages are arranged at some level even if it was your wingman introduccing you to a girl at the bar. Nobody cares about arranged marriages except you. The US government does not care. I don't care. You are fixated on the arranged marriage thing.

You can go round and round about arranged marriages and how they are like online dating or having a wingman. It doesn't matter how the couple meet. You seem to be fixated on this.

The proof required is a bona fide ongoing relationship.

The OP has stated that he will go there, marry, and want to take her back to the US immediately within 3 months. The process requires him to be there in Turkey until she gets a visa. How much time does that leave for gathering proof of a bona fide ongoing relationship to get everything through when he only has 3 months there.

Focus on the evidence of ongoing relationship. Stop with the arrange marriage stuff - it doesn't matter.

If you think there is plenty of evidence to show by the time he petitions, please elaborate how it can be done under the timetable that the OP has proposed?

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And Aaron, remember, there are many petitions where the couple met face-to-face too. They may not have any online evidence of their relationship. But they would compensate in other ways, such as photos of them with friends, phone logs, etc. Online evidence is not required. To me, a fiance case could have different evidence than a marriage case as more evidence of them being entrenched in each other's lives as a legally married couple is more documentary and their daily interaction may be less evident.

You are missing the point.

Online communication is ONLY EVIDENCE OF AN BONA FIDE ONGOING RELATIONSHIP. I never said online evidence was required.

There are many ways to show an bona fide ongoing relationship as you have stated; photos, phone logs, etc. The bottom line is that the couple have to provide evidence. Marriage alone is not evidence of a bona fide marriage for immigration purposes.

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You are missing the point.

Online communication is ONLY EVIDENCE OF AN BONA FIDE ONGOING RELATIONSHIP. I never said online evidence was required.

There are many ways to show an bona fide ongoing relationship as you have stated; photos, phone logs, etc. The bottom line is that the couple have to provide evidence. Marriage alone is not evidence of a bona fide marriage for immigration purposes.

I think I am totally missing the point, but it's okay. I don't understand how online communication is the ONLY evidence of an ongoing relationship, but that online evidence is NOT required. I've been known to be quite dense at times, so you don't need to explain this further.

London, if you marry, please use this forum to see how others in your similar situation have been able to demonstrate a bona fide relationship and any other issues you may come across on a spousal visa search:

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/forum/110-ir-1-cr-1-spouse-visa-process-procedures/



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When I said they see each other and go on dates then if there is chemistry they will proceed to get engaged. Obviously like little love birds the minute they get back from their date they are going to text each other all night then all day everyday. The relationship will only grow with constant communication, there will be plenty of evidence to show by the time he petitions. I personally don't think he is going to meet, engage, marry, bring her with him all in three months. It's never that easy.

But as far as "arranged" marriages if you want to call it that, I think all marrages are arranged at some level even if it was your wingman introduccing you to a girl at the bar.

This will be my last post on this topic its getting pretty stupid.

If you read what i said you will see i am saying the same thing that you are saying. His question and title of the topic is "How can I marry a Syrian refugee?" then his subquestions are what is the fastest way...ect....

I answered his first question: Yes

and to the people on the thread that are ignorant "he wants to treat her like a slave, marry a naive refugee" "how can you marry someone you still haven't meet" " etc etc etc. I gave a brief explanation of the Syrian situation and the process and how reasonable it is. You are the one fixated on saying arranged marriages are not bone fide relationships.

Lets agree that NEW relationships are not bone fide

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I-129F Sent: August 28, 2015

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NOA2 E-Notification: September 28th, 2015

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Why do you say? I'm not saying you are wrong, because I completely don't know, but the Ankara site says, "U.S. Embassy Ankara is currently able to accept I-130 immigrant visa petitions filed for Syrian relatives of American citizens for immediate processing. Parents, spouses, and children of U.S. citizens can apply for immigrant visas at the Embassy."

There is a special process for Syrians You will need to contact the Embassy in Turkey. I believe you can set up an appointment there to file the I-130. That doesn't mean you will be automatically approved. And I'm not sure how fast the process is. And you still have to show proof. She will still need a passport and Birth certificate.

Remember you're not going to pick out a puppy but a wife. And you will need to prove to the embassy that your intent for a real marriage is real. The US Embassy in Turkey can be tough.


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12/3/2012 - I-130 delivered to Chicago 5/20/15: mailed I-751 package to California office
12/4/2012 - NOA1 NBC (Missouri Service Center MSC) 5/22/15: Date on NOA1
12/6/2012 - Check cashed 8/26/15: Bio appointment

12/8/2012 - Received paper NOA1 10/06/15: Received Email card was being processed
12/20/2012 - Case number showed up on USCIS website
1/29/2013 - Called USCIS and case is still at NBC
2/8/2013 - Received an Email that we were approved on 2/7/13
3/5/2013 - Told file may have been "misplaced" to email NOA2 to NCVresearch
3/7/2013 - ISO at the USCIS opened a service request to try to track down
if and when the file was shipped. Should hear something before 3/26 ( so she said)

NVC - 119 days NVC to Visa in hand
03/11/2013: NVC received (31 days from NOA2 at USCIS till received at NVC )
03/25/2013: NVC Case no. assigned
03/27/2013: Paid AOS fee (shows paid 3/29/13)
04/01/2013: AOS Sent
03/27/2013: Received IV Bill
03/27/2013: Paid IV Bill (shows paid 3/29/13)
04/01/2013: Sent IV Packet
04/02/2013:IV Packet Delivered
04/16/2013: Case Complete (37 days from received to case complete)
04/16/2013: Received Case Complete Email

05/13/2013: NVC status "In Transit"

051/20/2013: NVC status "Ready"
06/24/2013: Interview date - Orange card... wanted copy of USC passport

07/08/2013: Visa received in the mail

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Marrying to provide salvation from a unpleasant situation is not considered a marriage based on a relationship that has had time to gel. Hopping off a plane, then going shopping, in essence, for a bride, then trying to quickly obtain a visa will be uphill work all the way. Don't be surprised if the visa application is denied at just under the speed of sound.

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The K-1 visa is faster in getting her to the US than marrying her and applying to get her to the US. The downside to k-1 visa is marrying in the US, her family will not be able to come. The plus is your family will be able to attend. Either way document!!! Get pictures, if you talk on the internet or phone keep records. If you meet her parents, get pictures. They do like pictures of you kissing but I did not feel comfortable doing this in public and depending on the woman she may not want to do this. If there is religious reason make sure you document why you are not kissing. You should be smiling. I know a lot of guys do not like to smile but you need to show that you are in love/like her. If this is more of an arranged marriage, make sure that you mention it in the letter explaining the relationship.

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~~Thread closed to further discussion. If the OP did know someone who he wanted to marry then the advice given would be a start. At this point the he is just looking.~~

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AOS X5
Filed 07-08-08
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Oath 06-29-12

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