Migrant crisis: Pakistanis, others dumping IDs to become 'Syrian'

[lostinblue 1,989]

Migrant crisis: Pakistanis, others dumping IDs to become 'Syrian'

Hajdukovo, Serbia: A Pakistani identity card in the bushes, a Bangladeshi one in a cornfield. A torn Iraqi driver's licence bearing the photo of a man with a Saddam-style moustache, another one with a scarfed woman displaying a shy smile.

Documents scattered only metres from Serbia's border with Hungary provide evidence that many of the migrants flooding Europe to escape war or poverty are scrapping their true nationalities and likely assuming new ones, just as they enter the European Union.

Many of those migrants believe that using a fake document – or having none at all – gives them a better chance of receiving asylum in Germany and other western European states. That's because the surest route to asylum is to be a refugee from war and not an economic migrant fleeing poverty. That fact has led to a huge influx of people claiming to be Syrian.

Serbian border police say that 90 per cent of those arriving from Macedonia, about 3000 a day, claim they are Syrian, although they have no documents to prove it. The so-called Balkan corridor for the migrant flight starts in Turkey, then goes through Macedonia and Serbia before entering the European Union in Hungary.

"You can see that something is fishy when most of those who cross into Serbia enter January 1 as the date of their birth," border police officer Miroslav Jovic said. "Guess that's the first date that comes to their mind."

The chief of the European Union border agency Frontex said that trafficking in fake Syrian passports has increased.

"A lot of people enter Turkey with fake Syrian papers because they know that they'll get asylum in the EU more easily," Fabrice Leggeri said.

In Germany, customs have intercepted packages mailed to Germany containing Syrian passports, both genuine and counterfeit, the finance ministry said.

Syrians transiting through Serbia are concerned about the trend.

"Everyone says they are Syrian, even those who are obviously not," said Kamal Saleh, pointing towards a group of people camping in a Belgrade park. "That is not good for us Syrians because of limited number of people who will get the asylum."

Mr Saleh left everyone he loves in Syria – his wife, a baby boy and a shattered home in Damascus.

But, unlike many other migrants surging into Europe, he feels fortunate: he has a Syrian passport that he keeps carefully wrapped in a plastic folder and tucked inside his secret trouser pocket. The document, if genuine, should prove that he is a refugee fleeing war, and not a migrant fleeing poverty – a huge difference when asylum applications are considered.

His countryman, who identified himself only as Yemen, said: "There are too many people saying we are from Syria, but he is not from Syria. He is black and he said `I am from Syria.' Unbelievable. "

International aid agencies estimate that nearly 340,000 people have sought to cross EU borders since January. Two-thirds of the latest European arrivals are believed to be from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, Somalia and Eritrea – countries considered by international aid groups to be "refugee producing states," due to ongoing war or records of human rights abuses.

According to the 1951 Refugee Convention, those fleeing violence and persecution are entitled to basic rights under international law, including the right not to be immediately deported and sent back into harm's way. A migrant could be someone who chooses to resettle to another country in search of a better life and is eligible for deportation.

EU rules say the country where a migrant first arrives must process the asylum claim. But Germany last week abolished this obligation for Syrians, triggering a surge of people trying to travel through the EU to get there, adding that only refugees fleeing for their life, and not those fleeing poverty, will be allowed to stay.

Aware of the potential asylum rejection, many migrants fleeing poverty are dumping their identity documents.

Among those who had no second thoughts about ditching their true identity was Rafik from Pakistan.

"I'm leaving my old life behind," Rafik said, as he dashed under the fence into Hungary. He gave only his first name because he feared repercussions when applying for asylum in Germany. "I'm starting a new one."

"I don't have a passport, nor any other identity paper. Let's see which country they will choose to kick me back to."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/migrant-crisis-pakistanis-others-dumping-ids-to-become-syrian-20150906-gjggcn.html#ixzz3l6EBEMGl
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[X Factor 1,110]

I officially proclaim to be Syrian. And by birthday is Jan 1, 19xx. How stupid and/or desperate folks are.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

There seems to be an underlying agenda behind recent posts on this topic. As if some people fleeing Syria are not genuine refugees. Ok. Sure. So what?

Not offer asylum to the people it is designed to help because a few might not be the real deal or have sinister intent?

Brilliant.

This is a genuine crisis.

This isn't propaganda:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/aylan-kurdis-last-words-were-daddy-please-dont-die-as-father-battled-to-save-him-10488025.html

This is:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-34176631

[lostinblue 1,989]

There seems to be an underlying agenda behind recent posts on this topic. As if some people fleeing Syria are not genuine refugees. Ok. Sure. So what?

Not offer asylum to the people it is designed to help because a few might not be the real deal or have sinister intent?

Brilliant.

This is a genuine crisis.

This isn't propaganda:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/aylan-kurdis-last-words-were-daddy-please-dont-die-as-father-battled-to-save-him-10488025.html

This is:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-34176631

Invading is the key word isn’t it.

They are young, fit, well dressed men with nice haircuts, of military age. Fudging where they came from. They do not appear to be fleeing hardship, but are rather after social welfare benefits in liberal European countries. They are making it clear they have no intention to assimilate to Euro culture,

Impossible to know if someone is a criminal. . It will be really great when the EU recipient countries start issuing these people passports .. they can travel to the US on visa waiver .ISIS can wander about the world with ease...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Your assumption is that there aren't genuine refugees, and if there are that it isn't worth granting them asylum.

I don't agree with that. Neither do the decision makers

Edited September 8, 2015 by Trumplestiltskin

[lostinblue 1,989]

Your assumption is that there aren't genuine refugees, and if there are that it isn't worth granting them asylum.

I don't agree with that. Neither do the decision makers

Bold talk for someone who's country will only accept a few thousand folks.. Accept 2-3 million males and when they send for their families of a half a dozen children all on the government dole. ... Then sit back and wait 20 years. See what shape your country will be in . Jihad will come to the streets. And not in a nice way.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Bold talk for someone who's country will only accept a few thousand folks.. Accept 2-3 million males and when they send for their families of a half a dozen children all on the government dole. ... Then sit back and wait 20 years. See what shape your country will be in . Jihad will come to the streets. And not in a nice way.

Bold talk? Given that I have my own conscience separate from whoever is running the country,id say that's a silly thing to say.

If you don't think anyone fleeing Syria should be granted asylum, just say so. Just say what you honestly believe - I dare you.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Bold talk? Given that I have my own conscience separate from whoever is running the country,id say that's a silly thing to say.

If you don't think anyone fleeing Syria should be granted asylum, just say so. Just say what you honestly believe - I dare you.

I have yet to see a straight response to a direct question.

[Jacque67 7,328]

Invading is the key word isnt it.

They are young, fit, well dressed men with nice haircuts, of military age. Fudging where they came from. They do not appear to be fleeing hardship, but are rather after social welfare benefits in liberal European countries. They are making it clear they have no intention to assimilate to Euro culture,

Impossible to know if someone is a criminal. . It will be really great when the EU recipient countries start issuing these people passports .. they can travel to the US on visa waiver .ISIS can wander about the world with ease...

Yes, it must be a conspiracy . All those fake refugees are going to the UK , and then Britain will get the last laugh as it issues British passports to them, and they are allowed to travel to the States on the VWP. Better warn the women of the U.S.-they might seek a younger foreign husband to replace their ex, who has run off with a woman from a poorer country that has less of an entitlement issue.

The world is a stage, as I believe an intelligent chappy before my time said...

[Boiler 43,595]

This stage is hosting a horror show.

[Jacque67 7,328]

This stage is hosting a horror show.

Yep. Mods who show an anti American female bias.

Constant anti-immigrant threads. Even in other forums. A sick world indeed for some.

[Boiler 43,595]

Must have missed the anti legal immigration threads.

[lostinblue 1,989]

it’s been about a year since the ISIS first started discussing sending a wave of fighters with their “immigrants” to Europe, for the purpose of swamping Europe’s system, and taking over....

[JohnR! 5,495]

It does seem that many such threads are based on ignorance, fear and xenophobia. After all, this is an immigration site, bound to attract those who might feel better and less constipated living in a more homogeneous world.

There seems to be an underlying agenda behind recent posts on this topic. As if some people fleeing Syria are not genuine refugees. Ok. Sure. So what?

Not offer asylum to the people it is designed to help because a few might not be the real deal or have sinister intent?

Brilliant.

This is a genuine crisis.

This isn't propaganda:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/aylan-kurdis-last-words-were-daddy-please-dont-die-as-father-battled-to-save-him-10488025.html

This is:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-34176631

[decocker 7,198]

it’s been about a year since the ISIS first started discussing sending a wave of fighters with their “immigrants” to Europe, for the purpose of swamping Europe’s system, and taking over....

i love it when a plan comes together. MUAH HA HA. see you in ny lib!