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I thought that valid, unexpired passport, met the requirement for birth info.

But a couple of people here have posted that a RFE required them to submit birth certificates.

What is the general experience ? Has everyone had to supply birth certificates; or do passports suffice ?

Under what conditions do birth certificates seem to be requested, in addition to passports.



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August 11, 2018  18 month 'Courtesy Copy' extension letter received.  Critical number  297

October 20, 2018 18 month 'Official' extension letter received.  Critical number 297

December 4, 2018  USCIS Account shows: We approved your Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, 

December 4, 2018, ordered your new card for Receipt # EAC17297003XX, and will mail to the address you gave.

491 days from NOA issued by VSC until Petition approved.

December 7, 2018 USCIS sent notice:  Card mailed.

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December 6, 2018 submitted N-400 application on-line.  Estimated Completion Time: 8 months or August 2019.

December 8, 2018 received notice on USCIS that Biometrics scheduled . . . but the actual date was not yet shown.

December 11, 2018 saw in 'Documents' section of USCIS that Bio scheduled for 24 December 2018.

December 21, 2018 saw on USCIS website that they will be closed 24 December 2018 as extra holiday.

January 9, 2019 went for re-scheduled BIO appointment.  33 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

February 19, 2019 received letter in US mail that Citizenship interview scheduled for 26 March 2019. 74 days after submission on-line.

March 26, 2019 Citizenship interview scheduled for.  109 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

March 26, 2019 Passed Citizenship interview.

April 12, 2019  Received notice that Oath Ceremony had been scheduled for 24 April 2019.  17 days after interview.

April 24, 2019  Oath Ceremony completed.  29 days after interview.     139 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

April 25, 2019  USA Passport Application submitted.

May 3, 2019     USA Passport received.    149 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

May 9, 2019     Certificate of Naturalization and Citizenship returned in mail.

 

 

 

 

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Birth certificate is required. Passport is not but can be sent in addition to birth certificate.


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I thought that valid, unexpired passport, met the requirement for birth info.

But a couple of people here have posted that a RFE required them to submit birth certificates.

What is the general experience ? Has everyone had to supply birth certificates; or do passports suffice ?

Under what conditions do birth certificates seem to be requested, in addition to passports.

For the I-485 form, it clearly states that the applicant must supply a copy of the foreign birth certificate and a complete translation if not in English. If you cannot abtain a copy of the BC then you must prove this per CFR Title 8 Chapter I Subchapter B Part 103 Subpart A Section 103.2(b)(2)(ii). So you need to provide a BC or proof that one is not available and then use secondary evidence to prove bith information--link http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?rgn=div5&node=8:1.0.1.2.6#se8.1.103_12.

Good luck,

Dave

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The beneficiary's birth certificate is a required supporting document for the I-485, as stated above.

The petitioner's birth certificate is sometimes used as proof of US citizenship; I used it to prove my wife's, since she had no passport and wasn't naturalised.

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13 (5/5/12) Received biometrics appointment for 5/23
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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ukraine
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http://www.visajourney.com/content/i130guide2

This guide clearly states that birth certificate and/or passport be submitted.

7. A copy of the intending immigrant's birth certificate and/or passport along with English translation. (If in any language other than English)

Let's hear from others who have only submitted passport.

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10 YEAR GREEN CARD PROCESS

July 22, 2017  ROC packet sent to Vermont.

July 24, 2017  ROC packet signed for in Vermont.

August 8, 2017  NOA received at house.  15 days since ROC signed for in VSC.

August 12, 2017 ASC appointment received. 19 days since ROC in VSC.

August 25, 2017 BIO completed. 32 days since ROC received in VSC.

August 11, 2018  18 month 'Courtesy Copy' extension letter received.  Critical number  297

October 20, 2018 18 month 'Official' extension letter received.  Critical number 297

December 4, 2018  USCIS Account shows: We approved your Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, 

December 4, 2018, ordered your new card for Receipt # EAC17297003XX, and will mail to the address you gave.

491 days from NOA issued by VSC until Petition approved.

December 7, 2018 USCIS sent notice:  Card mailed.

December 12, 2018 Ten year Green Card received from Lees Summit, MO

499 days from NOA issued by VSC until Green Card received.

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CITIZENSHIP PROCESS

December 6, 2018 submitted N-400 application on-line.  Estimated Completion Time: 8 months or August 2019.

December 8, 2018 received notice on USCIS that Biometrics scheduled . . . but the actual date was not yet shown.

December 11, 2018 saw in 'Documents' section of USCIS that Bio scheduled for 24 December 2018.

December 21, 2018 saw on USCIS website that they will be closed 24 December 2018 as extra holiday.

January 9, 2019 went for re-scheduled BIO appointment.  33 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

February 19, 2019 received letter in US mail that Citizenship interview scheduled for 26 March 2019. 74 days after submission on-line.

March 26, 2019 Citizenship interview scheduled for.  109 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

March 26, 2019 Passed Citizenship interview.

April 12, 2019  Received notice that Oath Ceremony had been scheduled for 24 April 2019.  17 days after interview.

April 24, 2019  Oath Ceremony completed.  29 days after interview.     139 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

April 25, 2019  USA Passport Application submitted.

May 3, 2019     USA Passport received.    149 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

May 9, 2019     Certificate of Naturalization and Citizenship returned in mail.

 

 

 

 

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Japan
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http://www.visajourney.com/content/i130guide2

This guide clearly states that birth certificate and/or passport be submitted.

7. A copy of the intending immigrant's birth certificate and/or passport along with English translation. (If in any language other than English)

Let's hear from others who have only submitted passport.

I think you're looking at the I-130 section. If you scroll down to the I-485 it's not optional. (#6)


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Filed: Other Country: Canada
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I thought that valid, unexpired passport, met the requirement for birth info.

But a couple of people here have posted that a RFE required them to submit birth certificates.

What is the general experience ? Has everyone had to supply birth certificates; or do passports suffice ?

Under what conditions do birth certificates seem to be requested, in addition to passports.

Mandatory for the I-485

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ukraine
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Thanks to all who replied.

Yes, I was looking at I-130 which specified "OR."

I didn't read I-485 carefully enough because I was confident that the same rules would apply to both forms. But alas, the rules can change from one government form to the next government form !!!

I swear that there are many things to trip one up, even when extra cautious like myself.



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10 YEAR GREEN CARD PROCESS

July 22, 2017  ROC packet sent to Vermont.

July 24, 2017  ROC packet signed for in Vermont.

August 8, 2017  NOA received at house.  15 days since ROC signed for in VSC.

August 12, 2017 ASC appointment received. 19 days since ROC in VSC.

August 25, 2017 BIO completed. 32 days since ROC received in VSC.

August 11, 2018  18 month 'Courtesy Copy' extension letter received.  Critical number  297

October 20, 2018 18 month 'Official' extension letter received.  Critical number 297

December 4, 2018  USCIS Account shows: We approved your Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, 

December 4, 2018, ordered your new card for Receipt # EAC17297003XX, and will mail to the address you gave.

491 days from NOA issued by VSC until Petition approved.

December 7, 2018 USCIS sent notice:  Card mailed.

December 12, 2018 Ten year Green Card received from Lees Summit, MO

499 days from NOA issued by VSC until Green Card received.

- - - - - - - - - - 

CITIZENSHIP PROCESS

December 6, 2018 submitted N-400 application on-line.  Estimated Completion Time: 8 months or August 2019.

December 8, 2018 received notice on USCIS that Biometrics scheduled . . . but the actual date was not yet shown.

December 11, 2018 saw in 'Documents' section of USCIS that Bio scheduled for 24 December 2018.

December 21, 2018 saw on USCIS website that they will be closed 24 December 2018 as extra holiday.

January 9, 2019 went for re-scheduled BIO appointment.  33 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

February 19, 2019 received letter in US mail that Citizenship interview scheduled for 26 March 2019. 74 days after submission on-line.

March 26, 2019 Citizenship interview scheduled for.  109 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

March 26, 2019 Passed Citizenship interview.

April 12, 2019  Received notice that Oath Ceremony had been scheduled for 24 April 2019.  17 days after interview.

April 24, 2019  Oath Ceremony completed.  29 days after interview.     139 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

April 25, 2019  USA Passport Application submitted.

May 3, 2019     USA Passport received.    149 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

May 9, 2019     Certificate of Naturalization and Citizenship returned in mail.

 

 

 

 

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