AOS(K1) I-693 ( medicals ) Your experience need :)

[YandP 6]

Hi, I would appreciate your help\experience in understanding I-693.

We are about to file our AOS ( k1) . It is not clear to me if we have to file I-693 or not, considering that i did my medical back in Ukraine and I have brought with me a copy of DS-3025 they gave me at the hospital. DS-3025 does have my vaccination records. Do I need to file I-693 and the copy of DS-3025 with my AOS package?

So yes, if anyone whose AOS was approved could help me with this, that would be great

[Ian H. 207]

As long as you submit the AOS within a year of when you had the medical and you have all of your vaccines on the DS-3025, you don't need the I-693. Just send a copy of the DS-3025.

[cocolucho 35]

Look at this form the AOS guide for K1:

"I-693, Medical Examination of Aliens Seeking Adjustment of Status.I-693, Medical Examination of Aliens Seeking Adjustment of Status. If you are a K-1, K-2, K-3 or K-4 visa holder the I-693 instructions state that you are not required to have another medical examination as long as your Form I-485 is filed within one year of your overseas medical examination. If you are missing any shots from your overseas medical a I-693 vaccination transcription is required to be completed by seeing a Civil Surgeon to have certain portions of the I-693 completed and have the Civil Surgeon certify the form (sealing the original in an envelope and giving you a copy)."

I read on VJ that some people did not have any issues when they just submitted the DS-3025 and some others did have problems and received an RFE and they were requested to submit the missing I-693 form. It can delay your process a few months so it is a judgement call and you can decide :-)

If you are 100% sure that all the vaccinations required and all subsequent vaccinations have been completed at the time of the medical exam overseas and it is listed properly and completed on the DS-3025, then you don't need to submit the form I-693. If by any chance you don't have all the vaccinations up to date or missing any subsequent shots, for example: if you needed a Hepatitis B shot (3 shot series) and you received one at the medical exam overseas, but have not completed the remaining 2 shots, then most likely will need to go and see a Civil surgeon. He/She will need to complete the first page only and the supplemental vaccination record (last page) with the missing required vaccinations. You do not need a new medical as long as it is one year from the medical that was done overseas so don't let the civil surgeon charge you as if you need a new medical (about $300+). I would definitely would not pay full price. When I used the civil surgeon I only paid $150 and that was too much, but I needed him to complete the first page and supplemental (last page) of the i-693. If you need vaccinations and you have insurance, don't do it with the civil surgeon as they mostly don't accept insurance policies and it can be expensive, check to see if you can do it at wallgreens medical center or urgent care centers, they accept most insurance policies and most vaccinations should be cover by your insurance. The civil surgeon will transcribe any vaccinations done somewhere else into the vaccination supplemental sheet of the I-693 and attach it to the document and place in a seal envelope.

FYI, if you decide to go to the civil surgeon, make sure to bring the USCIS I-693 form completed as indicated and bring the instructions sheet as well. I brought the instructions and highlighted Section 3 on page 5 of 9 as it is states clearly that you don't need a new medical, etc, etc..... When I first was calling to make appointments with civil surgeons, they all would insist on charging us the full price as if they were doing the full medical again blah blah blah, so you can show them the USCIS instruction sheet where it says that you don't need one if you meet the requirements which I am sure you do :-)

Well, good luck to you and I hope this helped!

J

[Loving_girl 38]

Hi, I would appreciate your help\experience in understanding I-693.

We are about to file our AOS ( k1) . It is not clear to me if we have to file I-693 or not, considering that i did my medical back in Ukraine and I have brought with me a copy of DS-3025 they gave me at the hospital. DS-3025 does have my vaccination records. Do I need to file I-693 and the copy of DS-3025 with my AOS package?

So yes, if anyone whose AOS was approved could help me with this, that would be great

I know ToddB sent a copy of DS-3025 with AOS, I (as a lot of other people) went to the USCIS appointed doctor and did medical exam, showed my DS 3025, they put your shots into their paper and complete the rest.

Take into account its a flue season in USA, so USCIS does demand flue shots to be done during flue season. So, my best advice is to go to the US doctor and make sure all shots are up-to-date and do the flue shot.

[YandP 6]

Look at this form the AOS guide for K1:

"I-693, Medical Examination of Aliens Seeking Adjustment of Status.I-693, Medical Examination of Aliens Seeking Adjustment of Status. If you are a K-1, K-2, K-3 or K-4 visa holder the I-693 instructions state that you are not required to have another medical examination as long as your Form I-485 is filed within one year of your overseas medical examination. If you are missing any shots from your overseas medical a I-693 vaccination transcription is required to be completed by seeing a Civil Surgeon to have certain portions of the I-693 completed and have the Civil Surgeon certify the form (sealing the original in an envelope and giving you a copy)."

I read on VJ that some people did not have any issues when they just submitted the DS-3025 and some others did have problems and received an RFE and they were requested to submit the missing I-693 form. It can delay your process a few months so it is a judgement call and you can decide :-)

If you are 100% sure that all the vaccinations required and all subsequent vaccinations have been completed at the time of the medical exam overseas and it is listed properly and completed on the DS-3025, then you don't need to submit the form I-693. If by any chance you don't have all the vaccinations up to date or missing any subsequent shots, for example: if you needed a Hepatitis B shot (3 shot series) and you received one at the medical exam overseas, but have not completed the remaining 2 shots, then most likely will need to go and see a Civil surgeon. He/She will need to complete the first page only and the supplemental vaccination record (last page) with the missing required vaccinations. You do not need a new medical as long as it is one year from the medical that was done overseas so don't let the civil surgeon charge you as if you need a new medical (about $300+). I would definitely would not pay full price. When I used the civil surgeon I only paid $150 and that was too much, but I needed him to complete the first page and supplemental (last page) of the i-693. If you need vaccinations and you have insurance, don't do it with the civil surgeon as they mostly don't accept insurance policies and it can be expensive, check to see if you can do it at wallgreens medical center or urgent care centers, they accept most insurance policies and most vaccinations should be cover by your insurance. The civil surgeon will transcribe any vaccinations done somewhere else into the vaccination supplemental sheet of the I-693 and attach it to the document and place in a seal envelope.

FYI, if you decide to go to the civil surgeon, make sure to bring the USCIS I-693 form completed as indicated and bring the instructions sheet as well. I brought the instructions and highlighted Section 3 on page 5 of 9 as it is states clearly that you don't need a new medical, etc, etc..... When I first was calling to make appointments with civil surgeons, they all would insist on charging us the full price as if they were doing the full medical again blah blah blah, so you can show them the USCIS instruction sheet where it says that you don't need one if you meet the requirements which I am sure you do :-)

Well, good luck to you and I hope this helped!

J

Cocolucho , thank you for your advice! You are right, its better to play it safe and try to avoid RFE by filing I-693. And thanks for the idea to print out the complete form to make sure i can back up my words that about NO new medical is needed! I was reading how some folks here on VJ had problems finding the civil surgeon that will just fill out the form. thanks a lot!

I know ToddB sent a copy of DS-3025 with AOS, I (as a lot of other people) went to the USCIS appointed doctor and did medical exam, showed my DS 3025, they put your shots into their paper and complete the rest.

Take into account its a flue season in USA, so USCIS does demand flue shots to be done during flue season. So, my best advice is to go to the US doctor and make sure all shots are up-to-date and do the flue shot.

Loving_girl, oy WOW i didn't realize that flue shots might be required! Thanks for reminding! Yeh, you know I got confused with whether the DS-3025 is enough since all we are getting in Ukraine is just its copy. Thanks for the advice! Now on the way to find a local civil surgeon that wont insist on the full medical examination yet again

[Loving_girl 38]

Loving_girl, oy WOW i didn't realize that flue shots might be required! Thanks for reminding! Yeh, you know I got confused with whether the DS-3025 is enough since all we are getting in Ukraine is just its copy. Thanks for the advice! Now on the way to find a local civil surgeon that wont insist on the full medical examination yet again

From my experience with medical: i took X-ray from Ukraine and DS 3025. Though i did not had any TB, they also made a tb-test and 2 or 3 shots (cos those were not made in Ukraine and were not necessary). I did not had a flue shot, cos by the time i made my medical exam in the US, the flue season was already over, but as i said, people who do medical or send AOS papers during flue season, must have flue shot as required by USCIS.

By the way, from what i understand, you are already in the US, and married? soooooooo Congrats!

[vbtwo 54]

I know ToddB sent a copy of DS-3025 with AOS, I (as a lot of other people) went to the USCIS appointed doctor and did medical exam, showed my DS 3025, they put your shots into their paper and complete the rest.

Take into account its a flue season in USA, so USCIS does demand flue shots to be done during flue season. So, my best advice is to go to the US doctor and make sure all shots are up-to-date and do the flue shot.

If your medical was done not in flu season, you do not need flu shots even though you're filing for AOS during the flu season. So if you have DS 3025 with everything filled out, you do not need anything else, just send in a copy of it and it's fine. My wife had medical done in the summer without a flu shot and we filed for AOS in January and just sent in DS 3025 and got approved without any hassles.

Edited November 4, 2014 by vbtwo

[Loving_girl 38]

If your medical was done not in flu season, you do not need flu shots even though you're filing for AOS during the flu season. So if you have DS 3025 with everything filled out, you do not need anything else, just send in a copy of it and it's fine. My wife had medical done in the summer without a flu shot and we filed for AOS in January and just sent in DS 3025 and got approved without any hassles.

As i already mentioned, that it´s base on what i read and seen, in general my opinion during AOS it all depends on what officer has your case, cos i read over here people were getting RFEs for flue shots and MMR shots etc.......and MMR shots unfortunately are among those that were not done in Ukraine.

As your case, my friend who applied for AOS with DS3025 also did not faced problems. So the OP may give it a try and follow any advice given over here.

Edited November 4, 2014 by Loving_girl

[TBoneTX 43,157]

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[KayDeeCee 4,892]

If it was not flu season when you had your K-1 medical, then you do not need to go out and get a flu shot now. If you had all the required vaccinations at the time of the K-1 medical and they were marked off on a properly filled out DS-3025, then you should not need to see a civil surgeon for an I-693. If you did not have all the required vaccinations marked off on the DS-3025, then you would need to see a civil surgeon for the vaccinations and I-693. Since it is now flu season when you go to the civil surgeon, then you would need to get the flu shot. See this thread for details > http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/428381-i-693-report-of-medical-examination-and-vaccination-report/?p=6206232

[YandP 6]

If it was not flu season when you had your K-1 medical, then you do not need to go out and get a flu shot now. If you had all the required vaccinations at the time of the K-1 medical and they were marked off on a properly filled out DS-3025, then you should not need to see a civil surgeon for an I-693. If you did not have all the required vaccinations marked off on the DS-3025, then you would need to see a civil surgeon for the vaccinations and I-693. Since it is now flu season when you go to the civil surgeon, then you would need to get the flu shot. See this thread for details > http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/428381-i-693-report-of-medical-examination-and-vaccination-report/?p=6206232

Thank you for this link - good to know at this time of the year! I got confused because my DS-3025 said that all the vaccinations that are age appropriate are done, so I am glad to hear that. Thank you

As i already mentioned, that it´s base on what i read and seen, in general my opinion during AOS it all depends on what officer has your case, cos i read over here people were getting RFEs for flue shots and MMR shots etc.......and MMR shots unfortunately are among those that were not done in Ukraine.

As your case, my friend who applied for AOS with DS3025 also did not faced problems. So the OP may give it a try and follow any advice given over here.

Loving_girl, thank you for the greetings We had a blast Yes, I am noticing that at all the stages of this journey a lot depends on the officer. thank you though for reminding about the flue shots! I hope your trip to Ukraine was successful and the passport mission was accomplished

If your medical was done not in flu season, you do not need flu shots even though you're filing for AOS during the flu season. So if you have DS 3025 with everything filled out, you do not need anything else, just send in a copy of it and it's fine. My wife had medical done in the summer without a flu shot and we filed for AOS in January and just sent in DS 3025 and got approved without any hassles.

vbtwo, that is good to know! Indeed, I did my medical in summer. I just got a bit confused because the DS 3025 said that all age appropriate vaccinations are done so i got paranoid thinking that possibly in the US ( and I 693 ) some other vaccinations are age appropriate. But seems like whatever we get in Ukraine is sufficient. Thank you!

[TheFoxxy 76]

We went to a civil surgeon and had him certify the vaccinations records for $20.00. We figured it was worth $20 to be sure and not receive an RFE which would slow things down. It took us about 45 minutes to go and get it done. I would try and do it if you have the ability and find a civil surgeon that will do it for cheap. Good luck!