Q: Ticket name Passport (Maiden) Name or New Married Name for Return visit to Philippines from U.S?

[RK_and_Inday 10]

We, Inday, Filipina, and RK, U.S. citizen, are considering a trip to Philippines soon, visiting family for several weeks. We have a question about what is appropriate name to have on Inday’s airline ticket. Currently, Inday’s passport is still in her maiden name (firstname maiden-middlename maiden-surname-as-last-name). However, the two-year permanent resident card (“green card”) shows married name (firstname maiden-surname-as-middlename husband-surname-as-last-name).

Which of these two name forms is to be used on the airline ticket? To match passport or green card? (We ask because we know Philippine passport is need for visit to Philippines, but the Permanent Resident Card is needed to enter the U.S. but know name on ticket must match ID).

Thank you akk very much for your continuing and always welcome help.

RK and Inday

P.S. Yes, we did use “advanced search” feature but found discrepant answers, and in older posts, so were hoping to find what is the current and correct answer.

[cazzers 83]

The name that matches the passport. Bring the marriage certificate to explain why the green card has a different name.

[Unico 1]

The answer is "match the green card" Inday needs to use her married name because she's legally married to R.K. and her green card needs to match to her plane ticket. Inday's green card is now her permit to enter the US. To play safe just bring Inday's married certificate.

[nightingalejules 678]

No, no, no! The first poster is right.

We, Inday, Filipina, and RK, U.S. citizen, are considering a trip to Philippines soon, visiting family for several weeks. We have a question about what is appropriate name to have on Inday’s airline ticket. Currently, Inday’s passport is still in her maiden name (firstname maiden-middlename maiden-surname-as-last-name). However, the two-year permanent resident card (“green card”) shows married name (firstname maiden-surname-as-middlename husband-surname-as-last-name).

Which of these two name forms is to be used on the airline ticket? To match passport or green card? (We ask because we know Philippine passport is need for visit to Philippines, but the Permanent Resident Card is needed to enter the U.S. but know name on ticket must match ID).

Thank you akk very much for your continuing and always welcome help.

RK and Inday

P.S. Yes, we did use “advanced search” feature but found discrepant answers, and in older posts, so were hoping to find what is the current and correct answer.

The answer is "match the green card" Inday needs to use her married name because she's legally married to R.K. and her green card needs to match to her plane ticket. Inday's green card is now her permit to enter the US. To play safe just bring Inday's married certificate.

No, No NO!

The first answer is right. The ticket must match the passport. The passport is the id they require to get through security. The marriage certificate explains why the green card is different.

Also, if you can, get the new passport while you're in PH. But keep the old one and show them both when you get on the plane to return to the US. Then you won't have this problem again.

[pinksorceress23 8]

the first poster is right, match the ticket with the passport and bring the marriage certificate to explain why the green card is on a different name.

[Greenbaum 12,258]

The first poster is right.

Be sure to have your marriage certificate as well as her green card with you when you travel. You may think about getting her passport changed so all documents match. You will need to file a ROM (report of marriage) and then change the name on the passport. You can do this while in the Philippines or when you return. Be aware they will take the old passport so you may want to wait till you return stateside to change the passport but it all depends on how much time you will be spending in the Phil.

[Greenbaum 12,258]

Sorry, forgot one important item concerning the ROM. You must do the report of marriage at the consulate with jurisdiction over the location the marriage took place. So find your consulate and begin the process with them. The ROM only takes about 2 weeks to complete. Get the forms and instructions from THAT consulate as some consulate have different requirements. Go figure. As I say you can't make this stuff up about government.

[RK_and_Inday 10]

So, summarily: thus far, the majority recommendation is to match the name on airline ticket to the (maiden) name on the passport. Also noted is to bring the marriage certificate as explanatory document regarding passport name being different from green card name. Also, Greenbaum, thank you for additional info re: ROM.

Question: as mentioned, previous VJ posts also gave discrepant answers. To help us (RK and Inday) understand better--and also to help future members who may be searching for the answer to this same question--can any of the respondents to our post explain from where the information you provided us here was obtained? (Experience? Government web site? Or....????)

Thank you to all those responding to our question. As always, we appreciate all the help from our fellow VJ members!

--RK and Inday

[yannix 24]

 

The first poster is right.

Be sure to have your marriage certificate as well as her green card with you when you travel. You may think about getting her passport changed so all documents match. You will need to file a ROM (report of marriage) and then change the name on the passport. You can do this while in the Philippines or when you return. Be aware they will take the old passport so you may want to wait till you return stateside to change the passport but it all depends on how much time you will be spending in the Phil.

Some Phil consulates in the US (maybe all) and the DFA will actually let you keep the passport while your replacement/renewal is in process. Just tell them you are travelling soon. If you do choose this method, you will have to physically pickup (as opposed to having it mailed back) your passport as they need to cancel the old one during pickup time.

As for timeframes: From the US, it takes about 8 weeks to get a passport. If you happen to be in Manila, you can get one using 'rush processing' in about 7 working days. Also it's more than 2x the price to get it in the US compared to the Phils. HTH

Edited June 12, 2014 by yannix

[Hank_ 9,173]

So, summarily: thus far, the majority recommendation is to match the name on airline ticket to the (maiden) name on the passport. Also noted is to bring the marriage certificate as explanatory document regarding passport name being different from green card name. Also, Greenbaum, thank you for additional info re: ROM.

Question: as mentioned, previous VJ posts also gave discrepant answers. To help us (RK and Inday) understand better--and also to help future members who may be searching for the answer to this same question--can any of the respondents to our post explain from where the information you provided us here was obtained? (Experience? Government web site? Or....????)

Thank you to all those responding to our question. As always, we appreciate all the help from our fellow VJ members!

--RK and Inday

So you want facts, but don't want to do a google search for government websites? Hmm... need someone else to search for you? Why ask for opinions here on VJ then insist on the "just the facts ma'am" (just pulling on your leg)

https://help.cbp.gov/app/answers/detail/a_id/1209/~/us-citizens%2Flawful-permanent-residents-name-does-not-match-documents

Can I travel if my name has changed due to marriage, divorce, etc., and my documents are in my old name?

US Citizens: US Citizens who change their name due to marriage, divorce, or because of any other circumstance may travel using your US passport or other WHTI approved document in your prior name provided you bring proof of your name progression such as; a marriage certificate, a divorce decree or court documents showing a legal name change.

Lawful Permanent Residents (LPR): LPR's who change their name due to marriage or because of any other circumstance may travel using your LPR Card (US Green Card; I551) in your prior name provided you bring proof of your name progression such as; a marriage certificate, a divorce decree or court documents showing a legal name change.

Please check with the country(s) you are traveling to for their entry requirements. Please call Transportation Security Administration (TSA) about their requirement for name match on travel documents (Secured Flight) at 1 (866) 289-9673 or by email tsa-contactcenter@dhs.gov )

For more information on requirements see TSA Secured Flight .

[Caryh 5,206]

 Some Phil consulates in the US (maybe all) and the DFA will actually let you keep the passport while your replacement/renewal is in process. Just tell them you are travelling soon. If you do choose this method, you will have to physically pickup (as opposed to having it mailed back) your passport as they need to cancel the old one during pickup time.

As for timeframes: From the US, it takes about 8 weeks to get a passport. If you happen to be in Manila, you can get one using 'rush processing' in about 7 working days. Also it's more than 2x the price to get it in the US compared to the Phils. HTH

We updated my wife's passport at an outreach program thru the Chicago consulate. They did not take away or invalidate her old passport, and we were not asked about travel plans, nor did we have any at the time. The new passport was mailed to us. She still has both yet, although I believe the one in her maiden name has now expired. Which consulate required pick up or giving up the old passport? This might be good information to share, as it may affect some people's plans.

[Torete 121]

 Some Phil consulates in the US (maybe all) and the DFA will actually let you keep the passport while your replacement/renewal is in process. Just tell them you are travelling soon. If you do choose this method, you will have to physically pickup (as opposed to having it mailed back) your passport as they need to cancel the old one during pickup time.

As for timeframes: From the US, it takes about 8 weeks to get a passport. If you happen to be in Manila, you can get one using 'rush processing' in about 7 working days. Also it's more than 2x the price to get it in the US compared to the Phils. HTH

RK/Inday,

Agree: Name on the tickets must match the name in the passport.

Regarding "New passport due to change in name" or "Renewal of Passport"...(specifically for the Philippines Consulate General in San Francisco as they have jurisdiction over Seattle, WA (ours), one has to make an appearance IN PERSON. As for ourselves, this wouldn't be feasible, economically or otherwise. Obviously I/we don't know which consulate has jurisdiction over your area, so check their website. My understanding is that this requirement applies to ALL consulates but I/we could be wrong.

http://www.philippinessanfrancisco.org/philippines-sf/consular-services-sf/faq-sf/#passport

New Passport due to Change in Name

The Philippines has instituted the electronic passport (ePassport) system for all its citizens. The ePassport features microchip technology and a host of other security features thereby ensuring that Philippine passports are virtually tamper-proof. ePassport issuance is also compliant with the security standards set by the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO). The Philippine ePassport has an integrated circuit (chip) within its pages containing data that are essential in verifying the identity of the passport holder. These include the personal biographical information found on the data page of the passport, the biometrics of the passport holder, the unique chip identification number, and a digital signature to verify the authenticity of the data stored on the chip. The chip technology allows the information stored in an ePassport to be read by special chip readers at almost every international port of entry.

The Embassy/Consulate General receives and processes applications for ePassports, which in turn is sent to the Department of Foreign Affairs in Manila for printing and issuance. Please allow at least 6 weeks for the entire process up to release of passport to applicant.

The Embassy/Consulate General advises all Philippine passport holders, whose passports are expiring within the next 6 months, to renew their passports if they intend to travel within the aforementioned period.

All Filipino citizens applying for passports with the Philippine Embassy/Consulate General will no longer need to submit photographs, as their picture, together with their fingerprints and signature, will be taken on-site. This means that all passport applicants, regardless of age, are henceforth required to appear personally.

[Caryh 5,206]

Regarding "New passport due to change in name" or "Renewal of Passport"...(specifically for the Philippines Consulate General in San Francisco as they have jurisdiction over Seattle, WA (ours), one has to make an appearance IN PERSON. As for ourselves, this wouldn't be feasible, economically or otherwise. Obviously I/we don't know which consulate has jurisdiction over your area, so check their website. My understanding is that this requirement applies to ALL consulates but I/we could be wrong.

You're correct that all consulates require a personal appearance now. I believe all the consulates have outreach programs to reach their far flung citizens in their respective area of responsibility. And I'm fairly sure I've heard of the San Fran consulate having those in Seattle, WA. As long as you keep tabs on where they're gonna be, there's usually not the need to travel quite so far.

[Torete 121]

You're correct that all consulates require a personal appearance now. I believe all the consulates have outreach programs to reach their far flung citizens in their respective area of responsibility. And I'm fairly sure I've heard of the San Fran consulate having those in Seattle, WA. As long as you keep tabs on where they're gonna be, there's usually not the need to travel quite so far.

Yep Caryh...you're right as well. :-) One must regularly check their jurisdictional consulate to see if/when they offer an outreach program; .I should have added that caveat. There's one June 20-22 or something like that here in Seattle but obligations prohibit us from attending. I was very surprised to see that an in person appearance was required...other than what you pointed out.

Good food for thought for other members considering this route. I/we probably will be forced to attempt renewal on our next visit to the Phils.

Regards

[J_d_Petitioner 17]

So, summarily: thus far, the majority recommendation is to match the name on airline ticket to the (maiden) name on the passport. Also noted is to bring the marriage certificate as explanatory document regarding passport name being different from green card name. Also, Greenbaum, thank you for additional info re: ROM.

Question: as mentioned, previous VJ posts also gave discrepant answers. To help us (RK and Inday) understand better--and also to help future members who may be searching for the answer to this same question--can any of the respondents to our post explain from where the information you provided us here was obtained? (Experience? Government web site? Or....????)

Thank you to all those responding to our question. As always, we appreciate all the help from our fellow VJ members!

--RK and Inday

From my personal experience, on my first travel, my ticket had <FirstName> <Passport Last Name or Maiden Name> <Greencard Last Name or Married Name>. I had my greencard and marriage certificate with me the whole time.

I didn't run into any issues though the check-in agent advised me to use the name in my greencard which I did on my second travel to the Philippines, BUT it was a huge mess at the Philippine airport cos they didn't know how to deal with it. They took copies of my greencard and marriage certificate, had like 5 people look at it, but at the end, they let me check-in.

I flew to Guatemala and Canada using my married (greencard) name with no issues whatsoever.

I never updated my passport and now it's expired but thank goodness I gained my US Citizenship so I didn't have to deal with it again.

Edited June 12, 2014 by J_d_Petitioner