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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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Hello everyone,

I moved to the US for almost three years through K1 Visa. My husband and I try to bring my mom here for at least 2 months by B2 visa since I'm 31 weeks pregnant so I would love to have my mom to share with me the priceless moment when our baby arrive ( this is our first baby also my mom's first grandchild) and we just got a house so I want to show her our new home. Beside that my husband and I plan to take here travel somewhere if she could come.

My husband is the sponsor for all of my mom expenses. He is Financial Advisor so we have really good income, we prepared all the documents that the US consulate require such as : 2 newest bank statements, two letters- one to my mom and one to the US consulate, W2 .etc...

We were so confident that my mom would pass the interview because we're not trying to bring her here and keep her illegally or she would not come back to the country.

However, things did not go the way we expected it would be. My mom went to the interview on April 24th, sense she does not speak English so she had to have the Vietnamese translator sat next to the VO to translate for my mom. They only asked her three questions :

VO: What is your job?

My mom: I have a house for rent and I do my own business at home, I provide sea foods to some of the local restaurants around the city where I live.

VO: Have you ever been out of the country before?

My mom: No, I have not.

VO: How many kids do you have?

My mom: just one.

Then they printed out the white paper (214b) and told my mom sorry they could not give her the Visa this time. The paper says my mom could not show her strong ties that will make her go back to the country. I wonder they did not look at any paper works how come they can judge that my mom won't come back?that's ridiculous!!!!

The only thing make me so disappointed is they did not even look at all the proofs she had with her or any papers that we sent to her. I was looking forward to have my mom here so I could spoil her and show her how my life here in the US really is. I'm 31 week pregnant so I have really bad emotion lately, after knowing my mom failed the interview I could not sleep for three days in the row. :(

So we decided to reapply again to see if we could get any luck this second time. My mom own a house and she's renting it to collect income every month, plus she does small business at home selling sea foods and she's been doing it for over 18 years. My mom and my dad got divorced in 1998 but they got back together in 2008( without getting married), I'm the only child my mom has on the legal paper but she raise and pay for my half brother school since my dad came back to live with her. So my parents and my half brother are actually living in the same address right now and they also own some student rental rooms. Do you guys think my mom could consider my half brother is her own child? And since my parents live together for that long without getting married can she tell the officer that he is her husband?

What do you think we should prepare for her second interview? I tend to have my grandparents to write a letter saying that they believe my mom will come back. And a paper from the police station by my house saying that my parents and my half brother are living in the same address (do you think it will help? )

My mom has elderly parents and 6 siblings in the countryside. And my mom is the mainly one take care of my grandparents. Beside me she has no other relative that live in the US.

Sense the officer tend to not letting my mom explain or anything so I told my mom next time she should pull all the proofs out while she answer their questions and just push the evidences inside the window, is it a good idea???

I really appreciate if you guys have any idea to tell me what I could help my mom show the strong ties so she could pass the interview. I grew up with my mom and she works so hard to give me everything I could ever ask for therefore having her here with me when I have my first baby is very important to me.

Thank you so much!

TN.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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Hi Christeen,

I totally got what you said but the problem for my mom case is she work for herself so how could we proof that to the consulate? And my parents don't have married certificate so it's anothe issue to show proof right there.

She does have the certificate showing that she owns the property but last interview they did not even ask for it or take a look at any paper works she brought with her.

Anyway, thank you so much for your advice!

TN

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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Remember, all the proof YOU send about how great things are for you n the USA only weaken the case for HER to return to Vietnam. They want to see HER ties to Vietnam and solid reasons why SHE MUST return... Too many parents have come to USA to visit children and help take care of grand babies and never returned. So showing how much you have and how you can support and show her an amazing time is only doing the opposite... It makes them question "if things are great here is USA, why on earth would she return"? Husband, step-children, job, business, property, family to take care of... That is what she needs to emphasize in order to even have a snowballs chance in hell of getting a visitor visa... You saying she will return means nothing... Her proving why she MUST return is what matters.

Hi Christeen,

I totally got what you said but the problem for my mom case is she work for herself so how could we proof that to the consulate? And my parents don't have married certificate so it's anothe issue to show proof right there.

She does have the certificate showing that she owns the property but last interview they did not even ask for it or take a look at any paper works she brought with her.

Anyway, thank you so much for your advice!

TN

Unfortunately your mother is going to have a very hard time getting approved. Attempting to sponsor her trip and that sort of thing doesn't matter, and probably work against her. You being pregnant isn't helping matters as well. As has been said, your fellow countrymen have abused the process of the visitor visa previously and parents have gone to "see" their grandchildren and never returned, and spend their days now caring for the grandchildren.

When she goes to the interview, they have to legally go on the assumption that she is intending to immigrate here. She needs to convince them that she will return at the end of her authorized stay. It does not sound to me like she will be able to, however.

November 14th, 2013: She's here!

December 12th, 2013: Picked up marriage license.

December 14th, 2013: Wedding

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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Remember, all the proof YOU send about how great things are for you n the USA only weaken the case for HER to return to Vietnam. They want to see HER ties to Vietnam and solid reasons why SHE MUST return... Too many parents have come to USA to visit children and help take care of grand babies and never returned. So showing how much you have and how you can support and show her an amazing time is only doing the opposite... It makes them question "if things are great here is USA, why on earth would she return"? Husband, step-children, job, business, property, family to take care of... That is what she needs to emphasize in order to even have a snowballs chance in hell of getting a visitor visa... You saying she will return means nothing... Her proving why she MUST return is what matters.

Hi Christeen,

I totally got what you said but the problem for my mom case is she work for herself so how could we proof that to the consulate? And my parents don't have married certificate so it's anothe issue to show proof right there.

She does have the certificate showing that she owns the property but last interview they did not even ask for it or take a look at any paper works she brought with her.

Anyway, thank you so much for your advice!

TN

Unfortunately your mother is going to have a very hard time getting approved. Attempting to sponsor her trip and that sort of thing doesn't matter, and probably work against her. You being pregnant isn't helping matters as well. As has been said, your fellow countrymen have abused the process of the visitor visa previously and parents have gone to "see" their grandchildren and never returned, and spend their days now caring for the grandchildren.

When she goes to the interview, they have to legally go on the assumption that she is intending to immigrate here. She needs to convince them that she will return at the end of her authorized stay. It does not sound to me like she will be able to, however.

November 14th, 2013: She's here!

December 12th, 2013: Picked up marriage license.

December 14th, 2013: Wedding

6gai.jpg

Posted

You are her only child and pretty soon eligible to apply for US citizenship 3 years based on marriage.

(only US Citizen could petition for parents).

The US consulate probably assumes that high chances your mom will stay in US, adjust status and not return if she is granted tourist visa.

Done with K1, AOS and ROC

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I must say that I am a bit surprised at her denial...why? because, according to what you posted, you 'did it right'. What do I mean by that? You went through the K1 process, not the so-typical B2- 'forgot to return- gosh I had no intention of getting married' baloney that so many people do instead...you went through the process that is very specific to this sort of thing...I would have given your mom full credit for YOUR actions....and would have been much more likely to give her any benefit of any doubt, because her daughter (you) did not (as so many people do) try to game the system with phony excuses, etc. Sorry to hear this...I think that parents of those who went through the K1 process should be given some 'equity', since their offspring did not try to do an end run around this procedure....

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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You are her only child and pretty soon eligible to apply for US citizenship 3 years based on marriage.

(only US Citizen could petition for parents).

The US consulate probably assumes that high chances your mom will stay in US, adjust status and not return if she is granted tourist visa.

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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It's possible they think it that way but I don't have any intention to bring my mom here for permanent, why? Because she does not speak English and she's absolutely happy with her life overthere. She even told me if she pass the interview she would stay max is 2 months in the US.

I don't know what to do to anymore, wish the officer will listen to her explanation. But many people try to do this type of visa and never come back so they tend to never believe what others say.

I must say that I am a bit surprised at her denial...why? because, according to what you posted, you 'did it right'. What do I mean by that? You went through the K1 process, not the so-typical B2- 'forgot to return- gosh I had no intention of getting married' baloney that so many people do instead...you went through the process that is very specific to this sort of thing...I would have given your mom full credit for YOUR actions....and would have been much more likely to give her any benefit of any doubt, because her daughter (you) did not (as so many people do) try to game the system with phony excuses, etc. Sorry to hear this...I think that parents of those who went through the K1 process should be given some 'equity', since their offspring did not try to do an end run around this procedure....

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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Hi RhettVoe ,

Thank you so much, I wish you was the officer who interviewed my mom, LOL!

And yes, when it come to paper work we being really honest, we never try to lie or do anything against the law. I've back to Viet Nam once or twice a year to visit my family.

It just ridiculous how the system works, there is no specific rules for it, and seems like 50% of the result is depend on the interviewer's mood!

Anw, thank you!

Filed: Country: Vietnam (no flag)
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Hi em,

I am sorry that your mother didn't get a tourist visa.

Given the amount of fraud at the US Consulate in HCMC, it's understandable why the US is cautious.

You are taking this personally. It's not personal. Your mom is treated like other people in her position.

This is what people in her position have done. Vietnamese parent comes to US on a visitor visa to take care of a new grandchild. Parent gets a visitor visa extension. Child gets US citizenship. Child petitions to adjust parent. (I'm in San Diego, and I know of several people here who have done that. Lets not get to Little Saigon in OC.)

The information you provided about your life in the US are irrelevant. Those are not strong ties to Vietnam. Those are strong ties to the US. The wonderful assets you have can easily be used to give her a good life here after she adjusts status.

Here is the plan. Mom should get visas to visit other Asian countries. Once she establishes that she will return home, she stands a better chance of getting a US visitor visa.

You may get lucky with a second application, but the results will probably be the same if she does not provide new information.

Sorry and good luck.

Edited by aaron2020
Filed: Country: Vietnam (no flag)
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Hello everyone,

I moved to the US for almost three years through K1 Visa. My husband and I try to bring my mom here for at least 2 months by B2 visa since I'm 31 weeks pregnant so I would love to have my mom to share with me the priceless moment when our baby arrive ( this is our first baby also my mom's first grandchild) and we just got a house so I want to show her our new home. Beside that my husband and I plan to take here travel somewhere if she could come.

My husband is the sponsor for all of my mom expenses. He is Financial Advisor so we have really good income, we prepared all the documents that the US consulate require such as : 2 newest bank statements, two letters- one to my mom and one to the US consulate, W2 .etc...

We were so confident that my mom would pass the interview because we're not trying to bring her here and keep her illegally or she would not come back to the country.

However, things did not go the way we expected it would be. My mom went to the interview on April 24th, sense she does not speak English so she had to have the Vietnamese translator sat next to the VO to translate for my mom. They only asked her three questions :

VO: What is your job?

My mom: I have a house for rent and I do my own business at home, I provide sea foods to some of the local restaurants around the city where I live.

VO: Have you ever been out of the country before?

My mom: No, I have not.

VO: How many kids do you have?

My mom: just one.

Then they printed out the white paper (214b) and told my mom sorry they could not give her the Visa this time. The paper says my mom could not show her strong ties that will make her go back to the country. I wonder they did not look at any paper works how come they can judge that my mom won't come back?that's ridiculous!!!! (It's not ridiculous. You are not a part of the process. Your paperwork are irrelevant.)

The only thing make me so disappointed is they did not even look at all the proofs she had with her or any papers that we sent to her. I was looking forward to have my mom here so I could spoil her and show her how my life here in the US really is. I'm 31 week pregnant so I have really bad emotion lately, after knowing my mom failed the interview I could not sleep for three days in the row. :(

So we decided to reapply again to see if we could get any luck this second time. My mom own a house and she's renting it to collect income every month, plus she does small business at home selling sea foods and she's been doing it for over 18 years. My mom and my dad got divorced in 1998 but they got back together in 2008( without getting married), I'm the only child my mom has on the legal paper but she raise and pay for my half brother school since my dad came back to live with her. So my parents and my half brother are actually living in the same address right now and they also own some student rental rooms. Do you guys think my mom could consider my half brother is her own child? (No. He is not her child in any way. There is no legal relationship between them. They are not legally related.) And since my parents live together for that long without getting married can she tell the officer that he is her husband? (No. People who are divorced are not married. They are not husband and wife.)

What do you think we should prepare for her second interview? I tend to have my grandparents to write a letter saying that they believe my mom will come back. (Does not matter. They cannot guarantee she will return. If your mom chooses to stay and adjust, what power would your grandparents have to make her return? None. Furthermore, if the US will not look at your papers, why would they look at papers from foreign nationals?) And a paper from the police station by my house saying that my parents and my half brother are living in the same address (do you think it will help? ) (Irrelevant. Sharing a house with unrelated people does not help show she will return to VN.)

My mom has elderly parents and 6 siblings in the countryside. And my mom is the mainly one take care of my grandparents. Beside me she has no other relative that live in the US.

Sense the officer tend to not letting my mom explain or anything so I told my mom next time she should pull all the proofs out while she answer their questions and just push the evidences inside the window, is it a good idea??? (Being aggressive is not going to help her. It will only get her booted out of the US Consulate with potentially bad consequences for future petitions.)

I really appreciate if you guys have any idea to tell me what I could help my mom show the strong ties so she could pass the interview. I grew up with my mom and she works so hard to give me everything I could ever ask for therefore having her here with me when I have my first baby is very important to me.

Thank you so much!

TN.

Filed: Country: Vietnam (no flag)
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Posted (edited)

This is what happens in my family when someone becomes a US citizen.

New USC petitions for a parent. Once parent becomes an LPR, parent petitions unmarried brothers and sisters. Brothers and sisters under age 21 are here within 2-3 years. This is a lot shorter than the USC petitioning for the brothers and sisters directly which takes 12 years.

This is not novel. It's pretty much how it works for many families.

Not accusing you of anything. Just saying this is how it works for many families.

Unfortunately, your mother got lumped into the same group as these people.

Edited by aaron2020
Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
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I have read it twice but see no mention of what the evidence to support her non immigrant intent is?.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Filed: Timeline
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perhaps little, true....but...her daughter, the OP, according to what she wrote, did things the 'right way' instead of the phony baloney B2 to 'visit a friend, who, gosh, proposed, 30 seconds after I picked up my suitcase, and I assure everyone that we had no intention of marrying and staying and yadda yadda yadda...' horse manure that we have all read over the last umpteen years....and thus, I believe that the CO should have given her mother some credit....alas....that did not occur...

 
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