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So i have double nationality i lived most of my life here in sweden i was born here in sweden so i am a swedish citizen what has happened is that most of my family moved back to my homeland el salvador and the other part to honduras. i feel really lonely here having all of my family over there mom dad my sister and i am thinking about moving to. i don't want to be alone here.

My question is can i start my cr1 or k1 from over there? what do i need to bring from sweden. im also worried that el salvador is a high fraud country is it more wise of me to stay here during the process i feel so drained being away from family i don't feel good at all i cry everyday but at the same time i think that is better to stay here to start the prosses since sweden is not a high fraud country. any ides? someone thats has been through the same what do you all think ? :sleepy:i really need some advice, thank u and sorry for my english :P

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If you are the USC - petitioner - you would be better off staying in the US while your fiance/e or wife waits for her process in Sweden. In order to bring a fiance/e or immediate family to the US you will need to establish residence in the US, so it would be counter productive and counter intuitive that you should leave the country as you go through the process of bringing a foreigner to live here.

If you are the beneficiary - SE/HN citizen - you would be better off staying in Sweden as well, for most of the documentation the US consulate will ask of you will relate to your life in Sweden. You can always move to Honduras but you will be required to product a lot of documents, including a police record, of your time in Sweden.

It is ultimately your choice but I would believe it will be easier to stay the course and stay put in Sweden until you get your visa to the US.

Good luck!

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If you are the USC - petitioner - you would be better off staying in the US while your fiance/e or wife waits for her process in Sweden. In order to bring a fiance/e or immediate family to the US you will need to establish residence in the US, so it would be counter productive and counter intuitive that you should leave the country as you go through the process of bringing a foreigner to live here.

i'm the beneficiary and living in sweden but i want to move i don't know if that's a good idea

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If you are the USC - petitioner - you would be better off staying in the US while your fiance/e or wife waits for her process in Sweden. In order to bring a fiance/e or immediate family to the US you will need to establish residence in the US, so it would be counter productive and counter intuitive that you should leave the country as you go through the process of bringing a foreigner to live here.

If you are the beneficiary - SE/HN citizen - you would be better off staying in Sweden as well, for most of the documentation the US consulate will ask of you will relate to your life in Sweden. You can always move to Honduras but you will be required to product a lot of documents, including a police record, of your time in Sweden.

It is ultimately your choice but I would believe it will be easier to stay the course and stay put in Sweden until you get your visa to the US.

Good luck

thank you for the info

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i'm the beneficiary and living in sweden but i want to move i don't know if that's a good idea

IMHO it is not a great idea. If you take up residence in Honduras you will be asked to present documentation of your life there, if only for the brief period you will be living there. It will only add to the bureaucracy of the process, presuming that you have a life, work and home in Sweden.

One other detail is that if you want our soon, consider the K-1 visa. It is faster than the CR1.

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IMHO it is not a great idea. If you take up residence in Honduras you will be asked to present documentation of your life there, if only for the brief period you will be living there. It will only add to the bureaucracy of the process, presuming that you have a life, work and home in Sweden.

One other detail is that if you want our soon, consider the K-1 visa. It is faster than the CR1.

And you would have to provide all the documentation in the language of the country where you are, that is, you will have to translate everything from Swedish to Spanish (which you could do yourself BTW).

On the other side, you would be closer to the US, with the possibility of visits on a VWP plan.

And there is always the possibility that some additional document is wanted for which it would be best to be in Sverige.

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FYI the consulate or embassy will treat you generally the same as if you came from your country of birth. In Canada someone who is from a MENA or another high fraud area can still be put into AP because of that, even if they're a Canadian citizen by naturalization. It still happens if their family is from one of those areas as well. Canada is pretty much one of the lowest fraud countries otherwise. Just just be aware. However you likely will find the embassy in Stockholm to be easier to deal with in general.

Read the comparison guide for k1 and cr1. K1's are really fast right now, but do cost a lot more, plus you must get married in the USA. For men, I find the k1 to be harder once in the USA because of the time period before they can work or even get a driver's license. A lot of women don't seem to have as big of an issue with the wait.

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I'm not sure why people are being so discouraging. You were born in Sweden and have a Swedish birth certificate, right? I'd consider you pretty damn Swedish for bureaucratic purposes. You are, in fact, from a very low fraud country with a high quality of life. As for the work involved, as the beneficiary, it doesn't really matter where you live when it comes getting the paperwork done. If you do decide to move, I'd say get any documents you need, such as your original birth certificate and police reports for the NVC stage (that's after the petition is approved by USCIS), before leaving Sweden. If your relationship is legitimate and you have evidence to prove that, you won't have a problem.

I'm American, my husband's a Colombian citizen, we filed the I-130 from Colombia but recently moved to Argentina. He has permanent residency here and lived here for five years, but he is Colombian and that's how they see him. The biggest pain has been trying to stay organized while preparing an international move in just two weeks, making sure we didn't lose any important papers, really things that have nothing to do with the visa process. We had a bit of a mixup when we got a surprise early approval and accidentally changed our address with USCIS afterwards, but it was quickly straightened out. I plan to explain the situation to NVC over the phone once we have a case number so they don't think my husband still plans to do the interview in Bogotá. You will do the interview wherever you are, but at the NVC stage you will have to make sure they know where you reside if you've moved recently so they don't send your case to the wrong embassy--you will fill in that address on the forms at that stage, as well.

Sure, you may have to translate some things from Swedish to Spanish and/or English, but you can do that yourself or get a friend to do it for free as long as you include a written and signed declaration that the person translating is fluent in both languages. I translated our documents for USCIS and everything was accepted, no RFEs.

If your partner is currently living in the U.S. and plans to stay there throughout the whole process, I can't imagine that you moving away from Sweden would cause many problems. The process is always simpler when the American citizen has domicile in the U.S., provided that there is enough evidence of a bonafide relationship and future financial support.

USCIS (Priority date April 1, Approval April 17, no RFEs)

March 28, 2014: I-130 sent via FedEx from Bogotá to Chicago Lockbox

April 1, 2014: Delivered to Chicago Lockbox at 10:29 a.m. according to FedEx tracking; signed for by J. CHYBA (date confirmed by My Case Status)

April 4, 2014: NOA1 e-mail received at 12:17 a.m.; case accepted and routed to CSC for processing. Check cashed.

April 17, 2014: Changed mailing address with USCIS Tier 2 representative. He also confirmed that our case had arrived to the CSC and that our NOA1 date is April 3.

April 18, 2014: NOA2 e-mail received at 12:30 a.m. Case status online changed to post-decision activity; date of "last updated" changed to April 17. Change of address e-mail received at 3 a.m. Status changed back to initial review on e-mail and online. Date of "last updated" now April 18. Called and spoke to two Tier 2 reps; both were useless.

April 21, 2014: Approval confirmed verbally by Tier 2 rep. Order put in to send second NOA2 hard copy to new address. Instructed to ignore online case status.

April 25 or 26, 2014: NOA1 hard copy arrives to old apartment in Bogotá. Priority date actually April 1. (April 3 was the notice date.)

May 16: USCIS change of address e-mail received

May 19: USCIS e-mail received saying a duplicate notice was mailed on this date. Case status now set to "Acceptance."

May 22: NOA2 duplicate hard copy arrives to U.S. address

NVC

April 29, 2014: Case received

​May 22, 2014: Case number and IIN assigned. Asked operator about our move from Colombia to Argentina and received instructions.

May 24, 2014: E-mails about embassy change/address change sent to nvcinquiry@state.gov at 4:36 p.m. NVC time

​June 3, 2014: Payment portal message "This case is in the process of termination" appears. DS-261 appears, submitted. E-mails received from NVC concerning case number and AOS bill.

June 4, 2014: AOS payment invoiced, paid; DS-261 received by NVC

June 6, 2014: AOS payment shows as PAID in payment portal

June 17, 2014: Response received from nvcinquiry@state.gov. "The correspondence submitted is currently under review. An appropriate action will be taken once this review is completed."

June 24, 2014: AOS package sent via FedEx overnight shipping from Houston to NVC

June 25, 2014: AOS package delivered at 9:43 a.m. according to FedEx tracking; signed for by F.FNU

July 1, 2014: AOS package scanned

July 18, 2014: Checked payment portal and saw: "CASE NUMBER CHANGE: The applicant's case number, [bGT#], has been changed to [bNS#]." Called and confirmed. Also said today marked 30 business days since NVC received DS-261; operator said she would have that reviewed and make IV payment available ASAP.

August 5: E-mail sent to nvcinquiry@state.gov concerning changing our embassy BACK to Bogotá at 6:41 p.m. NVC time

August 6: IV invoice e-mail FINALLY received at 2:13 a.m. NVC time

August 7: IV payment made available on payment portal; paid

August 8: IV payment shows as PAID in payment portal; DS-260 becomes available

August 14: Checklist received; errors on sponsor's I-864 form and on joint sponsor's I-864A

August 15: DS-260 submitted

August 29: Checklist response and IV package sent via FedEx ground from Houston to NVC

September 4: Checklist response and IV package delivered at 11:21 a.m. according to FedEx tracking; signed for by GPETERS

September 8: Checklist response and IV package scanned

September 10: DS-260 accepted; false checklist received

September 17: E-mail response received from asknvc@state.gov (30 business days/43 calendar days later): Correspondence under review

September 26: Embassy change approved; new case number assigned

October 30: CASE COMPLETE

Embassy

Interview scheduled: Nov. 10 -- Medical: Nov. 25 -- Interview: Dec. 1, 9:30 a.m. APPROVED! -- Visa in hand: Dec. 5 -- POE: Dec. 29 in Houston

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We're not being discouraging. If anything we're that choosing to stay in a country where it's easier to get the visa from because the rate of fraud is insignificant would be a good idea. The OP is a grown up and can make their own choices howerver. And since knowledge is power, it's good to know that sometimes there can be issues if your family is from a high fraud country even if you were born or live in a low fraud one.

You have brains in your head. You have feet in your shoes. You can steer yourself any direction you choose.  - Dr. Seuss

 

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And since knowledge is power, it's good to know that sometimes there can be issues if your family is from a high fraud country even if you were born or live in a low fraud one.

What issues for the IR-1/CR-1 or K-1 visas, exactly? I saw what you wrote about MENA and Canada, but that is Canada. El Salvador is not MENA. OP has citizenship and a birth certificate from Sweden. Do you know for a fact that European beneficiaries with family in El Salvador go through AP often? I think you're scaring the OP--whom the U.S. gov't will see could legally stay in one of the best countries in the world in terms of quality of life for the rest of his/her life--for no reason. OP needs to focus on evidence of a bonafide relationship, period.

USCIS (Priority date April 1, Approval April 17, no RFEs)

March 28, 2014: I-130 sent via FedEx from Bogotá to Chicago Lockbox

April 1, 2014: Delivered to Chicago Lockbox at 10:29 a.m. according to FedEx tracking; signed for by J. CHYBA (date confirmed by My Case Status)

April 4, 2014: NOA1 e-mail received at 12:17 a.m.; case accepted and routed to CSC for processing. Check cashed.

April 17, 2014: Changed mailing address with USCIS Tier 2 representative. He also confirmed that our case had arrived to the CSC and that our NOA1 date is April 3.

April 18, 2014: NOA2 e-mail received at 12:30 a.m. Case status online changed to post-decision activity; date of "last updated" changed to April 17. Change of address e-mail received at 3 a.m. Status changed back to initial review on e-mail and online. Date of "last updated" now April 18. Called and spoke to two Tier 2 reps; both were useless.

April 21, 2014: Approval confirmed verbally by Tier 2 rep. Order put in to send second NOA2 hard copy to new address. Instructed to ignore online case status.

April 25 or 26, 2014: NOA1 hard copy arrives to old apartment in Bogotá. Priority date actually April 1. (April 3 was the notice date.)

May 16: USCIS change of address e-mail received

May 19: USCIS e-mail received saying a duplicate notice was mailed on this date. Case status now set to "Acceptance."

May 22: NOA2 duplicate hard copy arrives to U.S. address

NVC

April 29, 2014: Case received

​May 22, 2014: Case number and IIN assigned. Asked operator about our move from Colombia to Argentina and received instructions.

May 24, 2014: E-mails about embassy change/address change sent to nvcinquiry@state.gov at 4:36 p.m. NVC time

​June 3, 2014: Payment portal message "This case is in the process of termination" appears. DS-261 appears, submitted. E-mails received from NVC concerning case number and AOS bill.

June 4, 2014: AOS payment invoiced, paid; DS-261 received by NVC

June 6, 2014: AOS payment shows as PAID in payment portal

June 17, 2014: Response received from nvcinquiry@state.gov. "The correspondence submitted is currently under review. An appropriate action will be taken once this review is completed."

June 24, 2014: AOS package sent via FedEx overnight shipping from Houston to NVC

June 25, 2014: AOS package delivered at 9:43 a.m. according to FedEx tracking; signed for by F.FNU

July 1, 2014: AOS package scanned

July 18, 2014: Checked payment portal and saw: "CASE NUMBER CHANGE: The applicant's case number, [bGT#], has been changed to [bNS#]." Called and confirmed. Also said today marked 30 business days since NVC received DS-261; operator said she would have that reviewed and make IV payment available ASAP.

August 5: E-mail sent to nvcinquiry@state.gov concerning changing our embassy BACK to Bogotá at 6:41 p.m. NVC time

August 6: IV invoice e-mail FINALLY received at 2:13 a.m. NVC time

August 7: IV payment made available on payment portal; paid

August 8: IV payment shows as PAID in payment portal; DS-260 becomes available

August 14: Checklist received; errors on sponsor's I-864 form and on joint sponsor's I-864A

August 15: DS-260 submitted

August 29: Checklist response and IV package sent via FedEx ground from Houston to NVC

September 4: Checklist response and IV package delivered at 11:21 a.m. according to FedEx tracking; signed for by GPETERS

September 8: Checklist response and IV package scanned

September 10: DS-260 accepted; false checklist received

September 17: E-mail response received from asknvc@state.gov (30 business days/43 calendar days later): Correspondence under review

September 26: Embassy change approved; new case number assigned

October 30: CASE COMPLETE

Embassy

Interview scheduled: Nov. 10 -- Medical: Nov. 25 -- Interview: Dec. 1, 9:30 a.m. APPROVED! -- Visa in hand: Dec. 5 -- POE: Dec. 29 in Houston

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MENA or other high fraud area is what I wrote. And then I gave an example. If you want to pick and choose what to read you'll always find this process to be difficult.

I find it interesting that even though the OP has not been back to the thread you seem to know their state of mind. Did you ever think that they said, oh that's good to know, like the post was meant, and continued on their way? No. You assume my post is terrifying them into thinking they will get AP. I said nothing of the sort and I assume nothing about the OP's state of mind. I will clarify as needed to the OP if they want.

If you have an issue with my posts, there is an ignore feature on the board which I suggest you use. I hope you have a good week.

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thank for all the answers, i have decided to move to ES but just for 1 year like that my boyfriend/fiance (not offical) can visit me more often he is not allowed to travel overseas due to work. i will do the cr1 or k1 in sweden and i hope my parents not being swedish my birth ain't gonna cause problem. And yes i was born in sweden so i hope i don't have any difficulties with the cr1/ k1 what ever i decide to do

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What issues for the IR-1/CR-1 or K-1 visas, exactly? I saw what you wrote about MENA and Canada, but that is Canada. El Salvador is not MENA. OP has citizenship and a birth certificate from Sweden. Do you know for a fact that European beneficiaries with family in El Salvador go through AP often? I think you're scaring the OP--whom the U.S. gov't will see could legally stay in one of the best countries in the world in terms of quality of life for the rest of his/her life--for no reason. OP needs to focus on evidence of a bonafide relationship, period.

i hope you right but i'm going to prepare myself for the worst to

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