The other side of the raids..

[pedroh 21]

"Federal immigration agents conducted illegal searches and relied on racial and ethnic profiling while carrying out a massive series of raids that terrorized residents of several towns in southeast Georgia in early September, according to a federal lawsuit filed today by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

The lawsuit charges that U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents illegally detained, searched and harassed Latinos solely because of their appearance -- in violation of their Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights -- during an extensive campaign to drive them out of the area.

The plaintiffs are five U.S. citizens of Mexican descent and a landlord who suffered damage to his rental properties when ICE agents broke into numerous trailers that were rented by Latinos. "

the link is here SPLC sues immigration agency

aha.. another case of 'it's for the greater good'.. zomg.. what's next?

and btw, this was freakin' hard to find.. cheers 4 ICE

[peejay 327]

When 80+% of illegal aliens are Hispanic...of course a vast majority of the arrests are of Hispanics. It is well known that the legal ones are huge enablers of the illegal ones. Case in point is...Pedroh. Would you really give a ####### if these illegal aliens were Pygmies from the Congo? I'll give everyone three guesses on that one and the first two don't count.

And if businesses actively decide to enable illegal aliens to live, thrive, and prosper illegally in the USA...naturally their businesses will be impacted when the law is enforced.

Give us a break Pedroh. If someone hangs around with dope dealers or lives in a crack house they are going to be caught up in it whether they are involved or not. Same as people that associate with illegal aliens and the business community that caters to them. Illegal aliens and their enablers shouldn't be immune from the law. When you sleep with dogs...you're gonna get fleas.

It's about as lame as crying that cops shouldn't enforce laws against crack cocaine because mostly blacks get arrested for breaking that particular law.

These retarded lawsuits don't surprise me nor does the fact that the ACLU and/or the SPLC are involved.

[Traviesa 0]

When 80+% of illegal aliens are Hispanic...of course a vast majority of the arrests are of Hispanics. It is well known that the legal ones are huge enablers of the illegal ones. Case in point is...Pedroh. Would you really give a ####### if these illegal aliens were Pygmies from the Congo? I'll give everyone three guesses on that one and the first two don't count.

And if businesses actively decide to enable illegal aliens to live, thrive, and prosper illegally in the USA...naturally their businesses will be impacted when the law is enforced.

Give us a break Pedroh. If someone hangs around with dope dealers or lives in a crack house they are going to be caught up in it whether they are involved or not. Same as people that associate with illegal aliens and the business community that caters to them. Illegal aliens and their enablers shouldn't be immune from the law. When you sleep with dogs...you're gonna get fleas.

It's about as lame as crying that cops shouldn't enforce laws against crack cocaine because mostly blacks get arrested for breaking that particular law.

These retarded lawsuits don't surprise me nor does the fact that the ACLU and/or the SPLC are involved.

OMG Peejay, obviously you have never had something like this happen to you. Do you know what a raid is like? They come into your room while you're asleep and point big old guns at your head. Sorry, but if they did that to me just because I'm a brown haired blue eyed white girl I would be pretty TICKED that's for sure.

[peejay 327]

OMG Peejay, obviously you have never had something like this happen to you. Do you know what a raid is like? They come into your room while you're asleep and point big old guns at your head. Sorry, but if they did that to me just because I'm a brown haired blue eyed white girl I would be pretty TICKED that's for sure.

That is because I'm not an illegal alien nor is my foreign wife and stepdaughter. In any event...we have all the necessary and required documentation to prove that we are legally entitled to live, thrive, and survive in the USA.

But I will admit there are probably better ways to crack down on illegal aliens. I myself would prefer mandatory workplace eligibilty verification, raids on lawbreaking workplaces, and heavy employer sanctions. This type of attrition through enforcement is more palatable along with tighter banking laws and other sanctions that target the infrastructure that enables illegal aliens to live, thrive, and prosper in the USA illegally.

If I already have to show ID to cash a check at the Piggley Wiggley supermarket or submit to a credit check to rent an apartment as a US citizen...it is not such an imposition to require as much of illegal aliens (and everyone else) to prove their residency status.

That being said...if cops can raid crackhouses, whorehouses, illegal gambling houses, etc., I don't see any reason why if a prior investigation warrants a raid on illegal alien houses that ICE can't do that too.

Sorry if that offends you. The fact is...we get what we tolerate. And we shouldn't tolerate illegal immigration or the negative social effects it generates.

[Traviesa 0]

That being said...if cops can raid crackhouses, whorehouses, illegal gambling houses, etc., I don't see any reason why if a prior investigation warrants a raid on illegal alien houses that ICE can't do that too.

Because these individuals weren't illegal aliens. They were US citizens. And the only "prior investigation" that was done was to learn that they are Hispanic individuals. And despite how much you may deny it, if you or your wife were woken up with guns pointed at your heads for no other reason than your APPEARANCE, I can promise you're not going to be calmly pulling out the papers to prove you have the right to be here. I would expect nothing less from you than what these individuals and families are attempting to do.

[Sinergy 3]

oh my!!!

[peejay 327]

Because these individuals weren't illegal aliens. They were US citizens. And the only "prior investigation" that was done was to learn that they are Hispanic individuals. And despite how much you may deny it, if you or your wife were woken up with guns pointed at your heads for no other reason than your APPEARANCE, I can promise you're not going to be calmly pulling out the papers to prove you have the right to be here. I would expect nothing less from you than what these individuals and families are attempting to do.

That is your conjecture. As for myself...I would prefer to hear the facts in a court of law. However, I seriously doubt that ICE went through the phone book looking up Hispanic sounding names and out of the blue decided to kick in a few doors just for fun. Maybe that is what you and the illegal alien cheerleading squad want the world to believe, but I'm skeptical that it happened that way. However, I'll keep an open mind, but seeing that the article was written by SPLC (the people doing the suing) I would be inclined to believe the account would be kind of one sided.

The illegals have been whining about the Swift raids too and I'm sure there will be lawsuits on that too.

One thing is certain...they did find illegal aliens in both cases. Lots of them.

[Ban Hammer 14,271]

Because these individuals weren't illegal aliens. They were US citizens. And the only "prior investigation" that was done was to learn that they are Hispanic individuals. And despite how much you may deny it, if you or your wife were woken up with guns pointed at your heads for no other reason than your APPEARANCE, I can promise you're not going to be calmly pulling out the papers to prove you have the right to be here. I would expect nothing less from you than what these individuals and families are attempting to do.

That is your conjecture. As for myself...I would prefer to hear the facts in a court of law. However, I seriously doubt that ICE went through the phone book looking up Hispanic sounding names and out of the blue decided to kick in a few doors just for fun. Maybe that is what you and the illegal alien cheerleading squad want the world to believe, but I'm skeptical that it happened that way. However, I'll keep an open mind, but seeing that the article was written by SPLC (the people doing the suing) I would be inclined to believe the account would be kind of one sided.

The illegals have been whining about the Swift raids too and I'm sure there will be lawsuits on that too.

One thing is certain...they did find illegal aliens in both cases. Lots of them.

i can just see that happening

[pedroh 21]

Because these individuals weren't illegal aliens. They were US citizens. And the only "prior investigation" that was done was to learn that they are Hispanic individuals. And despite how much you may deny it, if you or your wife were woken up with guns pointed at your heads for no other reason than your APPEARANCE, I can promise you're not going to be calmly pulling out the papers to prove you have the right to be here. I would expect nothing less from you than what these individuals and families are attempting to do.

That is your conjecture. As for myself...I would prefer to hear the facts in a court of law. However, I seriously doubt that ICE went through the phone book looking up Hispanic sounding names and out of the blue decided to kick in a few doors just for fun. Maybe that is what you and the illegal alien cheerleading squad want the world to believe, but I'm skeptical that it happened that way. However, I'll keep an open mind, but seeing that the article was written by SPLC (the people doing the suing) I would be inclined to believe the account would be kind of one sided.

The illegals have been whining about the Swift raids too and I'm sure there will be lawsuits on that too.

One thing is certain...they did find illegal aliens in both cases. Lots of them.

dude, the freakin lawsuit is in that website.. are they gonna lie that they are really American Citizens? all of them.. the mom,dad and 2 daughters were born in USA and still got raided because they had hispanic last names.. what's so hard to believe?

(also it was shown in telemundo and other places.. besides, illegal or not, you can't just blast a door and enter withouth a warrant)

so.. if it's agains the illegal aliens, all the information is correct and accurate.. but if its something pointing a mistake from the authorities, it must be a lie?

[pedroh 21]

another 'lie' from the splc..

border vigilante ordered to pay mex-am citizens

bias? LOL.. but of course.. and this is not even talking about illegal aliens.. we're talking about us citizens who happen to have latino last names.. yay.. gotta love when people take vigilantism on their own hands.. only sh!t happens

[peejay 327]

another 'lie' from the splc..

border vigilante ordered to pay mex-am citizens

bias? LOL.. but of course.. and this is not even talking about illegal aliens.. we're talking about us citizens who happen to have latino last names.. yay.. gotta love when people take vigilantism on their own hands.. only sh!t happens

I certainly don't claim that this sort of vigilantism is justified. It went through the courts and was dealt with.

[peejay 327]

dude, the freakin lawsuit is in that website.. are they gonna lie that they are really American Citizens? all of them.. the mom,dad and 2 daughters were born in USA and still got raided because they had hispanic last names.. what's so hard to believe?

(also it was shown in telemundo and other places.. besides, illegal or not, you can't just blast a door and enter withouth a warrant)

so.. if it's agains the illegal aliens, all the information is correct and accurate.. but if its something pointing a mistake from the authorities, it must be a lie

I still think there is more to this story that was posted on the SPLC site. If ICE used improper proceedure or broke the law...it will come out in court and appropriate action will be taken.

I know plenty of people that have been detained by police and later released. I had it happen to me. My car fit the description of a vehicle involved in a robbery and shooting. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. And the cops weren't very gentle until they realized they had an innocent guy (me). My car was profiled and me along with it. We straightened it out and I was released.

[peezey 0]

When you sleep with dogs...you're gonna get fleas.

Wow. Now they're dogs? Nice.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

That being said...if cops can raid crackhouses, whorehouses, illegal gambling houses, etc., I don't see any reason why if a prior investigation warrants a raid on illegal alien houses that ICE can't do that too.

Because these individuals weren't illegal aliens. They were US citizens. And the only "prior investigation" that was done was to learn that they are Hispanic individuals.

Interesting that the article from the SPLC is missing any and all information on how many illegals that raid actually turned up or what prior investigation has led ICE to conduct the raid. Probably pieces of information that would be devastating to their "case".

I cheer the ICE for every illegal they turn up and send home. They've got to be more active. And citizens harboring, employing or otherwise assisting illegals really have no right to complain about being in the middle of any raid. They actually ought to be prosecuted for aiding those that willingly and knowingly break many laws.

[mybackpages 0]

It always amazes me how quick to judge people can be about those who are undocumented in this country. Many families are of mixed status. Most are hard working, valuable members of this society. Why can't the debate about illegal immigration be about the law and not about the people.