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My next-door neighbor recently received her greencard after a 7 year battle with immigration. She has been in the US on a tourist visa since 1991.

Anyway, she physically has her greencard in hand, but her lawyer called and told her not to buy her ticket to visit family in her country because they need to file the paperwork to close her deportion case before she can travel internationally. Has anybody ever heard of not being able to travel with a valid GC in hand?

First off, would immigration issue her a greencard if she was in the process of being removed? As soon as she told me, I told her that it smells fishy and that her lawyer is shady.

A couple days later, she was going through all the immigration paperwork that she had received and in there was a letter she received from immigration about 9 months earlier that said (paraphrasing) "Both parties have agreed to terminate the deportion proceedings. Unless an appeal is filed within 30 days, the case is closed. Signed, xxx Immigration Judge" My neighbor speaks poor English so she didn't realize what the letter even said when she got it. The lawyer is CC'd on it, so she got it too.

So, it looks like the lawyer is trying to bill her for more hours supposedly working on closing the deportation case that has aready been closed. Any advice? Obviously, I told her not to pay them another dime. Would you suggest going further to report the lawyer? Who do you report it to? State bar association?

thanks for any advice.

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My next-door neighbor recently received her greencard after a 7 year battle with immigration. She has been in the US on a tourist visa since 1991.

Anyway, she physically has her greencard in hand, but her lawyer called and told her not to buy her ticket to visit family in her country because they need to file the paperwork to close her deportion case before she can travel internationally. Has anybody ever heard of not being able to travel with a valid GC in hand?

First off, would immigration issue her a greencard if she was in the process of being removed? As soon as she told me, I told her that it smells fishy and that her lawyer is shady.

A couple days later, she was going through all the immigration paperwork that she had received and in there was a letter she received from immigration about 9 months earlier that said (paraphrasing) "Both parties have agreed to terminate the deportion proceedings. Unless an appeal is filed within 30 days, the case is closed. Signed, xxx Immigration Judge" My neighbor speaks poor English so she didn't realize what the letter even said when she got it. The lawyer is CC'd on it, so she got it too.

So, it looks like the lawyer is trying to bill her for more hours supposedly working on closing the deportation case that has aready been closed. Any advice? Obviously, I told her not to pay them another dime. Would you suggest going further to report the lawyer? Who do you report it to? State bar association?

thanks for any advice.

Why are you assuming that the lawyer is trying to cheat the person? While removal proceedings are pending, USCIS can't approve an adjustment of status, but the Immigration Judge can. If the IJ grants an order adjusting status, the immigrant can take it to the USCIS office to get a Green Card. You haven't provided enough information to tell, but maybe the IJ granted the Green Card and the removal proceedings weren't formally terminated, so the lawyer is just being careful to get the IJ to terminate them before the person travels.

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The lawyer is CC'd on it, so she got it too.

Better confirm this before reporting her.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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I thought there was a phone line where she can check with her A# if there are any outstanding immigration issues.

Neighbor can also check with the immigration court where she was processed, no?

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Why are you assuming that the lawyer is trying to cheat the person? While removal proceedings are pending, USCIS can't approve an adjustment of status, but the Immigration Judge can. If the IJ grants an order adjusting status, the immigrant can take it to the USCIS office to get a Green Card. You haven't provided enough information to tell, but maybe the IJ granted the Green Card and the removal proceedings weren't formally terminated, so the lawyer is just being careful to get the IJ to terminate them before the person travels.

A judge didn't grant her residency, she had her AOS interview (like all of the people here applying for AOS) and the IO who interviewed her granted her a greencard. It came in the mail 2 weeks later.

The lawyer should know that if there was a pending removal proceeding, USCIS would not grant her a greencard. This lawyer just sounds very shady. My neighbor was told to not book any trips (outside of US) until they can close out the deportation case. First, she was told it would take 2 weeks. Now it has been aover a month and still no word. I predict they will send her a big fat bill soon and say that she is ok to travel now.

Why do people say that all lawyers are liars and con artists? Because they ARE!

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Why do people say that all lawyers are liars and con artists? Because they ARE!

I avoid lawyers like the plague.

However, to be more realistic, seems in your statement 'all' should be changed to something like 'a good proportion,' 'many,' or 'most.'


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10 YEAR GREEN CARD PROCESS

July 22, 2017  ROC packet sent to Vermont.

July 24, 2017  ROC packet signed for in Vermont.

August 8, 2017  NOA received at house.  15 days since ROC signed for in VSC.

August 12, 2017 ASC appointment received. 19 days since ROC in VSC.

August 25, 2017 BIO completed. 32 days since ROC received in VSC.

August 11, 2018  18 month 'Courtesy Copy' extension letter received.  Critical number  297

October 20, 2018 18 month 'Official' extension letter received.  Critical number 297

December 4, 2018  USCIS Account shows: We approved your Form I-751, Petition to Remove Conditions on Residence, 

December 4, 2018, ordered your new card for Receipt # EAC17297003XX, and will mail to the address you gave.

491 days from NOA issued by VSC until Petition approved.

December 7, 2018 USCIS sent notice:  Card mailed.

December 12, 2018 Ten year Green Card received from Lees Summit, MO

499 days from NOA issued by VSC until Green Card received.

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CITIZENSHIP PROCESS

December 6, 2018 submitted N-400 application on-line.  Estimated Completion Time: 8 months or August 2019.

December 8, 2018 received notice on USCIS that Biometrics scheduled . . . but the actual date was not yet shown.

December 11, 2018 saw in 'Documents' section of USCIS that Bio scheduled for 24 December 2018.

December 21, 2018 saw on USCIS website that they will be closed 24 December 2018 as extra holiday.

January 9, 2019 went for re-scheduled BIO appointment.  33 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

February 19, 2019 received letter in US mail that Citizenship interview scheduled for 26 March 2019. 74 days after submission on-line.

March 26, 2019 Citizenship interview scheduled for.  109 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

March 26, 2019 Passed Citizenship interview.

April 12, 2019  Received notice that Oath Ceremony had been scheduled for 24 April 2019.  17 days after interview.

April 24, 2019  Oath Ceremony completed.  29 days after interview.     139 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

April 25, 2019  USA Passport Application submitted.

May 3, 2019     USA Passport received.    149 days after N-400 submitted on-line.

May 9, 2019     Certificate of Naturalization and Citizenship returned in mail.

 

 

 

 

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