Irony

[jhuscusson 3]

I find it ironic that so many people here on this site are struggling to do this process legally and being ignored by the politicians, who are doing everything in their power to help the illegal aliens already in this country and streaming across the border, by giving them amnesty, welfare, jobs, education, etc.... And yet I have to send every kind of financial document I have, also sign a statement, saying that my beneficiary will not wind up on welfare. This is total madness. The thought has crossed my mind more than once that I should just fly my fiancee to Mexico and walk her across the border.

[Dbkrantz 16]

It depends on the illegal.

What if it is someone who left a country where there is war and people dying of lack of food/water?

But, yes I understand your point because it is very frustrated!

[RGinWA 816]

Anyone illegally in the country isn't living some dream. Everyday they risk deportation and separation from their family.

If you did bring your wife here illegally and she was caught she'd never get to live with you in the US again.

This process slows down those wanting to immigrate for a reason. If not we'd have an even worse immigration problem.

The issue is if they removed all the illegal aliens tomorrow it would send the US into a depression. This country relies on cheap labor...that is something that needs to be fixed at the employer level. Start putting employers in jail and the jobs would plummet, thus the illegals would stop coming.

Waiting and knowing you'll eventually be together should sustain most of us. At least we were blessed with being US citizens in the first place...which if you think about it was just luck for almost all of us.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

People say this a lot on this site, and it comes down to the fact that they don't actually know what illegal aliens get. They don't get lots of free stuff and a puppy.

Your wife will be a LPR in the US in no time, with a legal status and rights and protections. The illegals would give an eye tooth to be in her position.

The wait is too long, that's for sure, but it will be over in the blink of an eye and the pain of waiting will melt away.

[stevie b 141]

I find it ironic that so many people here on this site are struggling to do this process legally and being ignored by the politicians, who are doing everything in their power to help the illegal aliens already in this country and streaming across the border, by giving them amnesty, welfare, jobs, education, etc.... And yet I have to send every kind of financial document I have, also sign a statement, saying that my beneficiary will not wind up on welfare. This is total madness. The thought has crossed my mind more than once that I should just fly my fiancee to Mexico and walk her across the border.

yes I think you have many more illegal immigrants to talk to before you come up with that one

I know several

all live in fear and have problems regularly

biggest problem is that most of these that we are referring to in legislation were brought here when they were young... that being said, would you tell a Mexican national who has been here since the age of 2, growing up here in the states and now is 30 years old to get out of here???

it is an unfortunate situation I agree with the amount of time it takes to get a petition approved for sure

[jhuscusson 3]

People say this a lot on this site, and it comes down to the fact that they don't actually know what illegal aliens get. They don't get lots of free stuff and a puppy.

Your wife will be a LPR in the US in no time, with a legal status and rights and protections. The illegals would give an eye tooth to be in her position.

The wait is too long, that's for sure, but it will be over in the blink of an eye and the pain of waiting will melt away.

You miss the point. I am talking about the push now to grant amnesty those who have bypassed the legal method of immigration (which i am all for by the way) and reward them for doing so.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

You miss the point. I am talking about the push now to grant amnesty those who have bypassed the legal method of immigration (which i am all for by the way) and reward them for doing so.

No, you miss the point if you think that is what it is all about.

[Penguin_ie 5,986]

**** Moving from US Citizenship to Hot Topics discussion as not about the naturalisation process *****

[del-11-03-13-3 11]

I'm more frustrated that there is 0 talk about fixing the broken legal immigration system. I know stuff needs to be done about the undocumented and dreamers but I never hear anything about fixing things for people going the legal route. There should be a discussion about both. I make sure to explain the legal process to anyone I talk to so they understand how difficult and expensive it is. So many people say, why doesn't he just come here and you guys get married? They are oblivious that its not legal to do that and the legal way takes many months. Worst part I think is the separation. If we could be together during the wait it would be so much better.

[RGinWA 816]

You miss the point. I am talking about the push now to grant amnesty those who have bypassed the legal method of immigration (which i am all for by the way) and reward them for doing so.

The amnesty is for children brought here by their parents. These children have lived as US citizens for their entire life. Giving them amnesty is simply the right thing to do.

[RGinWA 816]

I'm more frustrated that there is 0 talk about fixing the broken legal immigration system. I know stuff needs to be done about the undocumented and dreamers but I never hear anything about fixing things for people going the legal route. There should be a discussion about both. I make sure to explain the legal process to anyone I talk to so they understand how difficult and expensive it is. So many people say, why doesn't he just come here and you guys get married? They are oblivious that its not legal to do that and the legal way takes many months. Worst part I think is the separation. If we could be together during the wait it would be so much better.

I agree. I was totally unaware of the complexity of this process until I decided to get engaged to my fiancé. Considering she knew nothing about the process, it left me to figure out the hoops I had to jump through. Its not only confusing, its a long process which makes it worse.

If it was not for this site I'd be a basket case by now.

[Harpa Timsah 13,258]

The amnesty is for children brought here by their parents. These children have lived as US citizens for their entire life. Giving them amnesty is simply the right thing to do.

I think the compassion angle is a good one, but personally, I am more convinced by a different angle that this is a good thing to do. These people got their education here and were raised here, and now they should turn around and use that education to work and pay taxes, paying it all back into the US system. I want the nation to benefit from their tax money, their education, and hopefully some ingenuity, instead of kicking them out to put their American education to good use in Mexico. I'd rather they put it to use here.

[Karee 4,189]

I really don't care that they were "brought here as children through no fault of their own" That's B.S. Children pay for the mistakes of their parents all the time. What about all the children that have 1 or both parents locked up because they broke the law? Should we give them special treatment? I mean after all their life sucks through no fault of their own.

First they need to fix the LEGAL immigration system before they even look at this DACA business. It's silly that it takes a year to get your spouse here legally. Of course that will never happen because both political parties are now falling all over each other to get the Hispanic vote.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I really don't care that they were "brought here as children through no fault of their own" That's B.S. Children pay for the mistakes of their parents all the time. What about all the children that have 1 or both parents locked up because they broke the law? Should we give them special treatment? I mean after all their life sucks through no fault of their own.

First they need to fix the LEGAL immigration system before they even look at this DACA business. It's silly that it takes a year to get your spouse here legally. Of course that will never happen because both political parties are now falling all over each other to get the Hispanic vote.

There is that moment when all the BS is pushed aside and the truth washes over you like a refreshing shower.

Thank you

[RGinWA 816]

I really don't care that they were "brought here as children through no fault of their own" That's B.S. Children pay for the mistakes of their parents all the time. What about all the children that have 1 or both parents locked up because they broke the law? Should we give them special treatment? I mean after all their life sucks through no fault of their own.

First they need to fix the LEGAL immigration system before they even look at this DACA business. It's silly that it takes a year to get your spouse here legally. Of course that will never happen because both political parties are now falling all over each other to get the Hispanic vote.

When your parents go to jail you usually get to stay in the country.

South American illegals don't bother me...it's not like they are coming here taking all the IT jobs. No, those jobs are fast tracked by our "legal" immigration process.

American's are spoiled rotten and perpetually pissed off, that's why they make this an issue. Always wanting more, but don't appreciate what we already have. Blame it on "those guys" (insert current group).