Harvard: Gun control doesn’t work

[Ban Hammer 13,400]

Small Government Times offers a summary:

The Harvard study attempts to answer the question of whether or not banning firearms would reduce murders and suicides. Researchers looked at crime data from several European countries and found that countries with HIGHER gun ownership often had LOWER murder rates.

Russia, for example, enforces very strict gun control on its people, but its murder rate remains quite high. In fact, the murder rate in Russia is four times higher tahn in the “gun-ridden” United States, cites the study. ”Homicide results suggest that where guns are scarce other weapons are substituted in killings.” In other words, the elimination of guns does not eliminate murder, and in the case of gun-controlled Russia, murder rates are quite high.

The study revealed several European countries with significant gun ownership, like Norway, Finland, Germany and France – had remarkably low murder rates. Contrast that with Luxembourg, “where handguns are totally banned and ownership of any kind of gun is minimal, had a murder rate nine times higher than Germany in 2002.

The study found no evidence to suggest that the availability of guns contributes to higher murder rates anywhere in the world. ”Of course, it may be speculated that murder rates around the world would be higher if guns were more available. But there is simply no evidence to support this.”

The authors also took a look at the effect of gun control laws in various U.S. states, gun ownership in rural and urban areas, and across racial lines. The long and short of it is that a small number of extremely active criminals with lengthy criminal records are responsible for the overwhelming super-majority of all gun crimes, and these criminals are psychopaths that ignore all laws.

The study also cited a previous report that was unable to find a single gun control law implemented in the United States that is proven to have reduced violent crime.

http://bearingarms.com/harvard-gun-control-doesnt-work/

study link, in pdf http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

[Penny Lane 8,159]

I'm gonna guess the gun-lovers in here don't question this Harvard study.

However the Harvard study I posted about gun ownership and suicide numbers ... that somehow wasn't legit.

[Jacque67 7,328]

I would posit this is to do with distribution of wealth in the countries mentioned. Gun murders have increased in London due to the presence of East European mafia groups. It's a cultural thing.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Spring 2007 and Gary Kleck is frequently cited? Looks legit to me.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

I'm gonna guess the gun-lovers in here don't question this Harvard study.

However the Harvard study I posted about gun ownership and suicide numbers ... that somehow wasn't legit.

You did not post a study. You posted an opnion paper with no links only quotes and sources

[Teddy B 17,252]

I noticed this study compares the murder rates in former Soviet Bloc countries to the US, does it also compare the murder rates of Canada and Australia to the US? Canada and Australia would be much better comparisons.

[Penny Lane 8,159]

You did not post a study. You posted an opnion paper with no links only quotes and sources

It sure wasn't an opinion paper.

I'm sorry it didn't give the links. It was their own study and listed the sources they used for their numbers.

Not very confusing.

Edited August 26, 2013 by Penny Lane

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I noticed this study compares the murder rates in former Soviet Bloc countries to the US, does it also compare the murder rates of Canada and Australia to the US? Canada and Australia would be much better comparisons.

No, because it would not support the conclusion desired.

It sure wasn't an opinion paper.

I'm sorry it didn't give the links. It was their own study and listed the sources they used for their numbers.

Not very confusing.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/risk/

[Penny Lane 8,159]

Oooooh links.

[mota bhai 2,675]

The United States has more in common with Latvia than it does Canada.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

All right Mongrels I am off to DC for the week...You all be civil and love each other. I may pop in, if the wife turns her back

Brother Spooky...You are the back up black guy if Brother Marvin is not here

[mota bhai 2,675]

mongrels? back up black guy? #######?

[decocker 7,198]

this week will be the perfect week to purchase a firearm. nature boy will be within a 60 mile radius.

[The Nature Boy 4,224]

mongrels? back up black guy? #######?

Sorry on my Bulldog board we call each other Mongrels as a term of affection

[Teddy B 17,252]

Sorry on my Bulldog board we call each other Mongrels as a term of affection

Do you sniff each others butts too?