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this buddy of mine spent 3 years working in Kuwait. While there he met an Indonesian woman who worked in office. They basically lived together on weekends for 3 years. His contract ran out and he had to come home. so obviously she wants to come to usa. Unfortunately while in Kuwait a number of years ago she married an Egyptian and had a baby. 5 years ago he took off back to Egypt and she hasnt seen him since. No divorce except for the I divorce thee 3 times. so she goes to ministry trying to get a divorce. As many people know the east asians in the ME are about one step above slavery. The ministry is not cooperative. He told her he cant get a K1 unless she gets divorce which isnt happening. She wants him to meet her back in Indonesia and get married there as her passport says she is single in Indonesia. Looks like a huge risk to me. Would involve lying to US Consulate when getting spousal visa.

I told him he needs to talk to a good US immigration lawyer if he really wants to be together with her. He hasnt been able to get a job. I told him maybe he needs to sell it all and go live in Bali. Hes not much into that


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*** Thread moved from K-1 Process forum to General Immigration Discussion. ***

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Don't lie to immigration about the marriage, that will end badly- sooner or later they will find out, and even if it is later, they will deport her.

First, if he has no job (thus no income, presumably), he has no money to petition her, this is an expensive process.

Longer term, she has a couple of options:

- Go to the ministry again, try to get someone more sympathetic.

- Try and track down the husband in Egypt, get him to get an official divorce cert in Egypt. He may be in favour of that if he has a new wife...

- Her move back to Indonesia or somehwere, and obtain a divorce there.

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Actually its not a money issue. My friend made so much money working overseas he is basically fixed for life. Owns two houses and +1M in financial assets. he really doesnt need to work anymore. His ex wife was from Russia(met her there while working). Money is not the issue. Theissue is his girlfriend is still married. I told him she needs to go ahead and move back to Jakarta and get a divorce there. She doesnt even know the husbands whereabouts except for the ci

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is possible to get legal representation in kuwait, and also egypt, i suggest you tell your friend to get both at same time.

Then, have each attorney handle the filings in each country.

I think if the divorce is granted first in Egypt, and the right documentation is generated (divorce decree with a gov stamp)

then that's it.

if need be, another filing can be made in Kuwait after she has the divorce decree from Egypt, if she needs to have that divorce decree recognized in order to be able to leave Kuwait country with the baby.

and that's about the extent of my knowledge. IMO, chase that stuff down, and an immigration attorney (that specializes in USA immigration) won't be needed, as the divorce decree from Egypt suffices.

Sideways, she can also ask for assistance with the Imam at the mosque where she attends - he can help prepare the religious document and authenticate it - iirc the gov in egypt needs that and SHOULD accept it from that Imam - but it may be that Imam also has to engage with an Imam in Egypt for any first 'cross-border' stuff.

Nah, that bits wrong - let me try again.

The Imam in her city can issue a religious document, and then the legal fella in Kuwait can then have the religious document authenticated and filed with the Kuwaiti office (Legal fella files this - make sure she stays away from that office) , in effect granting the civil divorce in Kuwait.

Alright - that's about all I can remember , the cobwebs are clear but the pit is empty now (my brain)

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