CRBA

[Regan L 1]

I live in America and my wife lives in the Philippines, i cannot be there for our babies Certificate of Birth Abroad appointment because i have work, so she will have to take our child alone. I was wondering, i asked something very similar to this, but id like to reiterate it for clarity, if our child was born in wedlock, will they waste our time with a DNA test? Also my wife Got her CR1 Visa in December of last year(2012), will that help avoid a very costly and lengthy process of DNA testing, i would like my wife here in march not a billion years from now. Anyone have any experience with a situation like this?

[canadian_wife 1,791]

Sorry, but the wedlock is not a guarentee of no DNA test

Fingers crossed for you

good luck

[VanessaTony 3,567]

As was stated, wedlock doesn't guarantee no DNA. Depends on several factors. All you can do is apply and see what happens.

[Regan L 1]

Sorry, but the wedlock is not a guarentee of no DNA test

Fingers crossed for you

good luck

where did you hear that it is not a guarantee? I dont understand how they could ever deny my daughter if my wife has her CR1 Spousal Visa already and our chld was born in wedlock

[VanessaTony 3,567]

where did you hear that it is not a guarantee? I dont understand how they could ever deny my daughter if my wife has her CR1 Spousal Visa already and our chld was born in wedlock

Was she conceived in wedlock?

See here: http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship.html and on the right there are 3 criteria listed:

1. Physical Presence/Residence in the United States (this is where you prove you've lived in the US long enough to pass it on)

2. Legitimation/Legal Relationship (explained here: http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship/legitimation4.html the child is "legitimated" by virtue of your marriage)

3. Blood Relationship (Filiation) (explained here: http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship/blood-relationship.html there is NOTHING that says "just because you're married we're going to assume the kid is yours).

I'm not trying to be offensive when I say, there is no proof your wife didn't get pregnant to someone else and you married her to get her child USC. Or that she didn't tel you she was pregnant and you just think the child is yours. They can accept proof that you were there at the time of conception (the dates matching), they can decide that it's a bit suspicious and instead ask for a DNA test. Being married only makes you married, and makes the child legally yours, it doesn't prove the child is biologically yours.

If it helps, it's rare (but not impossible) to see a child conceived and born in wedlock require a DNA test, but if the child was conceived out of wedlock your chances are higher for a DNA test. Not 100%, but higher. Depends on the CO and on your relationship.

[Regan L 1]

Was she conceived in wedlock?

See here: http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship.html and on the right there are 3 criteria listed:

1. Physical Presence/Residence in the United States (this is where you prove you've lived in the US long enough to pass it on)

2. Legitimation/Legal Relationship (explained here: http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship/legitimation4.html the child is "legitimated" by virtue of your marriage)

3. Blood Relationship (Filiation) (explained here: http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship/blood-relationship.html there is NOTHING that says "just because you're married we're going to assume the kid is yours).

I'm not trying to be offensive when I say, there is no proof your wife didn't get pregnant to someone else and you married her to get her child USC. Or that she didn't tel you she was pregnant and you just think the child is yours. They can accept proof that you were there at the time of conception (the dates matching), they can decide that it's a bit suspicious and instead ask for a DNA test. Being married only makes you married, and makes the child legally yours, it doesn't prove the child is biologically yours.

If it helps, it's rare (but not impossible) to see a child conceived and born in wedlock require a DNA test, but if the child was conceived out of wedlock your chances are higher for a DNA test. Not 100%, but higher. Depends on the CO and on your relationship.

very helpful answer! ive sent her many things that proove where i was when we were married and that i was in the philippines a month b4 and a month after i got married, also to proove im a us citizen i sent a notarized copy of every page of my passport, drivers licence, birth certificate.

[Regan L 1]

Was she conceived in wedlock?

See here: http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship.html and on the right there are 3 criteria listed:

1. Physical Presence/Residence in the United States (this is where you prove you've lived in the US long enough to pass it on)

2. Legitimation/Legal Relationship (explained here: http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship/legitimation4.html the child is "legitimated" by virtue of your marriage)

3. Blood Relationship (Filiation) (explained here: http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship/blood-relationship.html there is NOTHING that says "just because you're married we're going to assume the kid is yours).

I'm not trying to be offensive when I say, there is no proof your wife didn't get pregnant to someone else and you married her to get her child USC. Or that she didn't tel you she was pregnant and you just think the child is yours. They can accept proof that you were there at the time of conception (the dates matching), they can decide that it's a bit suspicious and instead ask for a DNA test. Being married only makes you married, and makes the child legally yours, it doesn't prove the child is biologically yours.

If it helps, it's rare (but not impossible) to see a child conceived and born in wedlock require a DNA test, but if the child was conceived out of wedlock your chances are higher for a DNA test. Not 100%, but higher. Depends on the CO and on your relationship.

yes she was born IN wedlock, i met my wife on xmas day, we got married on january 12th and my daughter was born september 26th. i was in the philippines for 3 months, from december to early march

[VanessaTony 3,567]

yes she was born IN wedlock, i met my wife on xmas day, we got married on january 12th and my daughter was born september 26th. i was in the philippines for 3 months, from december to early march

You "met" your wife on Christmas day? Or you meant you went to visit her when you were already in a relationship? Did you marry within less than a month of meeting? Or simply meeting on that trip?

[Regan L 1]

You "met" your wife on Christmas day? Or you meant you went to visit her when you were already in a relationship? Did you marry within less than a month of meeting? Or simply meeting on that trip?

i dated her for 10 months b4 a went and met her in the philippines, we got married on our 11th month.

[Regan L 1]

Was she conceived in wedlock?

See here: http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship.html and on the right there are 3 criteria listed:

1. Physical Presence/Residence in the United States (this is where you prove you've lived in the US long enough to pass it on)

2. Legitimation/Legal Relationship (explained here: http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship/legitimation4.html the child is "legitimated" by virtue of your marriage)

3. Blood Relationship (Filiation) (explained here: http://manila.usembassy.gov/service/citizenship/blood-relationship.html there is NOTHING that says "just because you're married we're going to assume the kid is yours).

I'm not trying to be offensive when I say, there is no proof your wife didn't get pregnant to someone else and you married her to get her child USC. Or that she didn't tel you she was pregnant and you just think the child is yours. They can accept proof that you were there at the time of conception (the dates matching), they can decide that it's a bit suspicious and instead ask for a DNA test. Being married only makes you married, and makes the child legally yours, it doesn't prove the child is biologically yours.

If it helps, it's rare (but not impossible) to see a child conceived and born in wedlock require a DNA test, but if the child was conceived out of wedlock your chances are higher for a DNA test. Not 100%, but higher. Depends on the CO and on your relationship.

for number 3, what would i need to send to prove that without paying 600 dollars for a dna test and waiting 4 months for the DNA test to get sent to the us embassy in manila?

[Regan L 1]

How often are non US citizen mothers that go without the father to a CRBA appointment required to provide a DNA test? If they have all the required documents. Im the husband(the us citizen)and cant make it to the appointment and im wondering about how much im going to have to pay if they request one and how long its going to take.What will my wife need to do while shes in manila if they ask for request one. This interview is the last step of my trip to get my wife and daughter here. Later i will be posting a list of all the evidence weve gathered for the appointment and see if that helps your answers.

[sjr09 155]

How often are non US citizen mothers that go without the father to a CRBA appointment required to provide a DNA test? If they have all the required documents. Im the husband(the us citizen)and cant make it to the appointment and im wondering about how much im going to have to pay if they request one and how long its going to take.What will my wife need to do while shes in manila if they ask for request one. This interview is the last step of my trip to get my wife and daughter here. Later i will be posting a list of all the evidence weve gathered for the appointment and see if that helps your answers.

If you have all the necessary documents you should be fine I have seen many on this site do just fine with out the US citizen parent attending the interview. However it is recommended the US citizen parent attend.

It's all about the documents and if the U.S. citizen parent meets the requirements to transmit citizenship to her/his child.

http://www.visajourn...ost__p__5800693

A must read this has all the answers you need http://manila.usemba...th-abroad7.html

CRBA CHECKLIST http://photos.state....%202013_001.pdf

[Regan L 1]

If you have all the necessary documents you should be fine I have seen many on this site do just fine with out the US citizen parent attending the interview. However it is recommended the US citizen parent attend.

It's all about the documents and if the U.S. citizen parent meets the requirements to transmit citizenship to her/his child.

http://www.visajourn...ost__p__5800693

A must read this has all the answers you need http://manila.usemba...th-abroad7.html

CRBA CHECKLIST http://photos.state....%202013_001.pdf

to prove im a us citizen i sent a notarized copy of my, passport, drivers license, w-2, and birth dertificate. I was born in the US and have lived here my whole life. Also our child was first concieved after we got married so our child was born in wedlock. Also my wife got her CR1 spousal visa in December last year. When you say youve seen many people not have troubles, do you mean not have to take the dna test? Because thats the only thing im worried about because its going to take lots of time and cost me lots on money.

[sjr09 155]

to prove im a us citizen i sent a notarized copy of my, passport, drivers license, w-2, and birth dertificate. I was born in the US and have lived here my whole life. Also our child was first concieved after we got married so our child was born in wedlock. Also my wife got her CR1 spousal visa in December last year. When you say youve seen many people not have troubles, do you mean not have to take the dna test? Because thats the only thing im worried about because its going to take lots of time and cost me lots on money.

IMO the W2 and drivers lic. are weak docs it really doesn’t prove U.S. citizen parent was physically present in the USA for periods totaling five years prior to the child’s birth, at least two of which where after their 14th birthday. However your high school transcript and US passport would.

　

This was the list of documents I submitted to prove my US citizenship.

True copy of live birth cert. with original seal of vital records office. (Original COPY)

High School transcript . (Copy)

My passport, you should send a copy of ever page not just the Bio.

"When you say youve seen many people not have troubles, do you mean not have to take the dna test?"

YES they had the necessary documents to satisfy the requirement....

[sjr09 155]

This is my list of documents that I submitted to the US embassy in Manila for CRBA.

DS-2029 with 2"x 2" full face passport photo with white background. (child)

NSO true copy birth Cert. (child)

Passport application. (child)

Proof of parent US citizenship.

1) US passport.

2) True copy of live birth cert. with original seal of vital records office. A must have!

3) High School transcript .

4) True copy of NSO Marriage cert.

5) Proof of physical presence in same location at time of conception. Airline tickets, copy of visa stamps.

6) Proof of mothers pregnancy, ultrasound, pre-natal records, hospital billing statements, and pictures.

Acceptance of evidence will be at the discretion of the consular officer, and depending on the circumstances, the consular officer may ask for additional material.

If your not attending the interview you'll need additional forms see the CRBA CHECKLIST and make sure you have everthing on it's list

EDIT and the DS-11 Form for the child

Edited January 29, 2013 by sjr09