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IT'S NOT A BILL OF NEEDS, IT'S A BILL OF RIGHTS

by PATRICE LEWIS

My goodness, the gun-haters are out in force lately.

The latest bit of joy comes from Donald Kaul, columnist with the Des Moines Register, who emerged from retirement in the wake of the Sandy Hook shootings to suggest that NRA members should be declared terrorists and political figures should be tortured. What a swell guy.

Tra la la, I find this SO amusing. A warm fuzzy progressive – someone who is doubtless a pacifist, peace-loving, harmonious kind of fellow – wants to butcher people who believe in the Second Amendment. His column highlights so beautifully the utter hypocrisy of the left, their lack of understanding of history and their disdain for the importance of the founding documents of this nation. Despite all historical evidence to the contrary (people butchered when they relinquished their guns to the government – think Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, Mao’s China, Pol Pot’s Cambodia), they believe history could never repeat itself.

Why is it that progressives are always so ready to kill anyone who disagrees with their particular brand of control?

This charming gentleman purports to be “madder than hell” and not willing to take it any more. He writes, “During my 50-year career, every time some demented soul would take a semiautomatic gun and clean out a post office, a school or a picnic, I’d get up on my soap box and let loose with a withering diatribe about guns, the National Rifle Association and weak-kneed politicians. … And in every case the main effect was a spike in gun sales.”

A spike in gun sales. Gee, why do you suppose that is?

I like to think it’s because Americans, at last, are awakening from their slumber. Our government has been moving so fast in attempting to eliminate the Second Amendment – using the emotional aftermath of the Connecticut tragedy as leverage – that it has, in the words of Robert Ringer, “awakened millions of snoozing serfs who had heretofore been quietly and obediently marching in lockstep toward their enslavement.”

In other words, millions of Americans are madder than hell and not willing to take it any more.

I would view Mr. Kaul’s attitude with more dark amusement if I didn’t realize he merely stated in writing what so many progressives really believe. He truly does want gun owners declared terrorists. He truly does want the Second Amendment repealed. He truly does want to torture and possibly execute anyone who disagrees with him. I guess I’ll give him credit for being honest.

Does anyone see the hypocrisy of someone decrying gun violence who suggests violent means to suppress armed citizens? As one commenter put it, “Seems like bad form to be pi–ing off only people that have guns, doesn’t it?”

It’s even more amusing because people like Mr. Kaul are far too cowardly to do any of the ugly work themselves. Instead, he wants government goons with bigger guns – the people WE pay – to do his dirty work for him. Isn’t that nice? If there were ever a finer illustration of the need for the Second Amendment, Mr. Kaul just gave it.

Anyone with even the sketchiest knowledge of American history knows that the Second Amendment was written to make the government think twice about engaging in tyranny. Its purpose is to keep the power with the people, so that we don’t become Stalinist slaves. Right now the feds have control over nearly every aspect of our lives – but what keeps them from taking that last, final, fatal step toward a dictatorship is the presence of our firearms. Do you honestly think total subjugation is possible in a well-armed society?

America was the first nation on the planet to offer a guarantee to its citizens against government tyranny. Our Founding Fathers wrote the Second Amendment because the oppressive and inexorable growth of government, all government, was clear, obvious and following historical patterns. Our forefathers had many failings, but they were remarkably prescient when it came to governmental abuses and human nature; and they were determined not to allow that to happen to their infant nation.

Now, of course, we’re proving the founders to be absolutely correct. What do you think will happen if the Second Amendment is repealed? The First Amendment will shortly fall (don’t you dareprotest, either face-to-face or in print; Facebook pages or blogs that criticize the government will be removed; mass protests in front of the White House won’t be permitted), followed by the Fourth Amendment (door-to-door searches and seizures of weapons) and the Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments (stubborn gun owners will be taken into custody and face eternal limbo with no trial, or face ridiculously high bail). And, of course, the Ninth and 10th Amendments were trashed decades ago.

See? It’s literally the right of private gun ownership that keeps us from tipping into the abyss of Soviet Russia or the Pol Pot regime. Let’s face it, people get killed every day by cars, knives and alcohol … but these items are not a threat to the government. Guns are. This is why the feds are so anxious to restrict them.

But progressives won’t admit this because progressives are hand-in-glove with tyranny. No other explanation.

The late Aaron Zelman, former executive of the organization Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, wrote: “Never forget, even for an instant, that the one and only reason anybody has for taking your gun away is to make you weaker than he is, so he can do something to you that you wouldn’t let him do if you were equipped to prevent it. This goes for burglars, muggers, and rapists, and even more so for policemen, bureaucrats, and politicians.” Disarmament does NOT end gun violence, it only changes the dynamic of who uses that violence, and it makes innocent victims easier to attack.

While I’m very sorry that folks like Mr. Kaul are “madder than hell” by spikes in gun sales, the incontrovertible fact is that the uninfringed right to defend yourself, your family and your property is aright given to us by our Creator, not the government. And it’s that right that allows Mr. Kaul to exercise his First Amendment freedom to spout treasonous nonsense.

Think about it, Mr. Kaul.

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Patrice Lewis is a freelance writer whose latest book is "The Simplicity Primer: 365 Ideas for Making Life more Livable." She is co-founder (with her husband) of a home woodcraft business. The Lewises live on 20 acres in north Idaho with their two homeschooled children, assorted livestock, and a shop that overflows into the house with depressing regularity. Visit her blog at www.rural-revolution.com.

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Don't worry, the moonbats will be in this thread soon enough to trash the constitution once again.

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The Great Canadian to Texas Transfer Timeline:

2/22/2010 - I-129F Packet Mailed

2/24/2010 - Packet Delivered to VSC

2/26/2010 - VSC Cashed Filing Fee

3/04/2010 - NOA1 Received!

8/14/2010 - Touched!

10/04/2010 - NOA2 Received!

10/25/2010 - Packet 3 Received!

02/07/2011 - Medical!

03/15/2011 - Interview in Montreal! - Approved!!!

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Don't worry, the moonbats will be in this thread soon enough to trash the constitution once again.

The gun nuts are just as moonbatty as the anti-gun nuts. Just, apparently, quicker in responding to moonbat gun nut threads!

B and J K-1 story

  • April 2004 met online
  • July 16, 2006 Met in person on her birthday in United Arab Emirates
  • August 4, 2006 sent certified mail I-129F packet Neb SC
  • August 9, 2006 NOA1
  • August 21, 2006 received NOA1 in mail
  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
  • October 13, 2006 NOA2! November 2, 2006 NOA2? Huh? NVC already processed and sent us on to Abu Dhabi Consulate!
  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

    Remove Conditions:

  • May 1, 2009 first day to file
  • May 9, 2009 mailed I-751 to USCIS CS
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Question, without rancor: what exactly about this thread makes it "moonbatty"? Please be specific.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Question, without rancor: what exactly about this thread makes it "moonbatty"? Please be specific.

Duplicate thread. The OP article is a butthurt wingnut daily response to a satirical editorial that would have gone unnoticed if the gun nuts either had a sense of humor, or were better endowed. Mods please merge.

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Don't worry, the moonbats will be in this thread soon enough to trash the constitution once again.

It's 12:16 pm EST, guess it's still a bit too early.

So - :pop:

"The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!" - Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945.

"Retreat hell! We just got here!"

CAPT. LLOYD WILLIAMS, USMC

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The OP article is a [...] response to a satirical editorial
Having grown up in Iowa and having read Donald Kaul in the Des Moines Register for many years, I wouldn't be so certain that his piece was all that satirical...

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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