Help on Divorce Certificate AFTER 2nd marriage please

[Unity4Life 1]

I am a Canadian Citizen newly married with a girl residing n Karachi a few months ago, however I cannot start her sponsorship yet. I was married to another girl in 2007 (also in Karachi) and a few months later we divorced (in 2007). She never received her visa because I cancelled it after we divorced. Problem is I didn't know there was a legal procedure involved or any certificates required. I just realized I need a divorce certificate regarding my previous marriage now. How can I obtain a pre-dated divorce certificate dated back to 2007?

I would really appreciate any and all help, PLEASE. I'm afraid if I go to the Union Council now they will date it as if we just got divorced which is incorrect and will totally nullify my current marriage. I also hear it takes months to get anything from them. What do I do? How do i convince Union Council that I divorced my ex-wife in 2007? My ex-wife has re-married since and I have no idea where she is.

Edited December 2, 2012 by Unity4Life

[Darnell 8,479]

sorry, we deal with 'immigrate to USA' issues.

Since you are Canadien, it seems you aren't immigrating to the USA.

Or - are you a green card holder, IN the USA?

[IT_1 0]

I am a Canadian Citizen newly married with a girl residing n Karachi a few months ago, however I cannot start her sponsorship yet. I was married to another girl in 2007 (also in Karachi) and a few months later we divorced (in 2007). She never received her visa because I cancelled it after we divorced. Problem is I didn't know there was a legal procedure involved or any certificates required. I just realized I need a divorce certificate regarding my previous marriage now. How can I obtain a pre-dated divorce certificate dated back to 2007?

I would really appreciate any and all help, PLEASE. I'm afraid if I go to the Union Council now they will date it as if we just got divorced which is incorrect and will totally nullify my current marriage. I also hear it takes months to get anything from them. What do I do? How do i convince Union Council that I divorced my ex-wife in 2007? My ex-wife has re-married since and I have no idea where she is.

I am not sure what to say: about what you saying above. I am sure you granted a final paper at that time, so use that one, IF you going to say you cant find or not sure where is... then I think something not right.. You have to show a paper to union con.. they can issue you certficate as of today, but will show date of divorce 2007.

[Unity4Life 1]

I am not sure what to say: about what you saying above. I am sure you granted a final paper at that time, so use that one, IF you going to say you cant find or not sure where is... then I think something not right.. You have to show a paper to union con.. they can issue you certficate as of today, but will show date of divorce 2007.

What paper are you referring to? I talaqed her in accordance with Islam and sent her a talaq letter. I had no clue since I don't live in Karachi that a legal procedure or any type of procedure is required. Nor did she mention anything. We verballly divorced and I sent her a letter and our lives together ended right there. She never received her visa because i cancelled her sponsorship right away.

[Darnell 8,479]

was the talaq letter filed , at all, with an imam at a mosque?

if so, he can help you out with the right Afghani-FEDERAL paperwork , a divorce decree.

[Unity4Life 1]

was the talaq letter filed , at all, with an imam at a mosque?

if so, he can help you out with the right Afghani-FEDERAL paperwork , a divorce decree.

No, I typed it up myself and signed it and sent it to her, that's all. What's "afghani-FEDERAL" paperwork? Does such a thing even EXIST?

She was Pakistani, I am Pakistani Afghani. She lived there and I was and am a citizen of Canada. I don't think it matters what the nationalities are nor does it matter if I am in Canada or the USA. At the end the process of marrying in and divorcing in Pakistan/Karachi are all the same. That's where my issue is. Thnx

[Unity4Life 1]

Darnell, don't be a troll. If you can't contribute then bother somebody else

[Darnell 8,479]

Seriously, if that paperwork went through an Imam, at all, he can help you with the Pakistani-Federal level divorce decree.

You need an official government-issued divorce decree , that's what the USCIS and DoS looks for.

Since you're NOT immigrating to the USA, and are seeking this paperwork for Canada, you might want to find a Canada-specific immigration web portal.

I don't troll here at VJ. Ask anyone.

[Unity4Life 1]

Seriously, if that paperwork went through an Imam, at all, he can help you with the Pakistani-Federal level divorce decree.

You need an official government-issued divorce decree , that's what the USCIS and DoS looks for.

Since you're NOT immigrating to the USA, and are seeking this paperwork for Canada, you might want to find a Canada-specific immigration web portal.

I don't troll here at VJ. Ask anyone.

it didn't go through an imam. Why would an imam be required? I typed it up myself, signed it and mailed it to her. I'm seeking paperwork WITHIN Karachi, not in the USA or Canada. You can be from mars and getting a divorce certificate in Karachi is the same as a US citizen getting a divorce certificate in karachi. I retained an attorney to sponsor my wife, but even he does not know what to do in a scenario such as mine since the divorce took place in 2007 and I have no documented proof of it. He said if I apply NOW for the divorce, and it gets dated to current timing, then my marriage becomes null and void.

[Darnell 8,479]

Going through an imam is never required - it's a service that he performs to his community and mosque.

the imam records it in a book when it's done.

There's some stuff he'll do , when requested by you or your ex, to get the divorce recognized at a FEDERAL level with the government in Pakistan. Get that done? You can use the divorce decree elsewhere.

It really is that easy, and there's no 'current' date - it would have been the date that the imam recorded it in his book.

Once recorded, and forgotten about (for example), you could call him today and he'll handle the rest of the paperwork, using the recorded date from his book.

So, you not use an Imam at a mosque.. Ok.. I get it -

but -

if you have no intention of immigrating to the USA, why are you posting on a website that focuses SOLELY on immigration into the USA?

Edited December 2, 2012 by Darnell

[Penguin_ie 5,999]

**** Moving from CR-1 (US spousal visa) to Pakistan regional forum ****

Op- this is a site focused on US immigration, but our members from your country may have some tips for you. Please don't accuse people of trolling when they ask a reasonable question.

Edited December 2, 2012 by Penguin_ie

[Ban Hammer 14,026]

No, I typed it up myself and signed it and sent it to her, that's all. What's "afghani-FEDERAL" paperwork? Does such a thing even EXIST?

She was Pakistani, I am Pakistani Afghani. She lived there and I was and am a citizen of Canada. I don't think it matters what the nationalities are nor does it matter if I am in Canada or the USA. At the end the process of marrying in and divorcing in Pakistan/Karachi are all the same. That's where my issue is. Thnx

the flag displayed on one's profile should be the one for the beneficiary - that's probably where some confusion arose.

[IT_1 0]

What paper are you referring to? I talaqed her in accordance with Islam and sent her a talaq letter. I had no clue since I don't live in Karachi that a legal procedure or any type of procedure is required. Nor did she mention anything. We verballly divorced and I sent her a letter and our lives together ended right there. She never received her visa because i cancelled her sponsorship right away.

I know what you saying dude, I belong to the system thats why I asked you. You think that you just sent a type letter yourself and send her that you divorced her and not registered your divore? In this case divorce happen, but you need to prove certen things also, and then you didnt register in local union (which is basic, and not sure how was telling you not to follow right process)so now you cant get any certtification dated 2007..sorry dude you didnt did right way... nothing can be done and you didnt follow right process.

Edited December 2, 2012 by IT_1

[IT_1 0]

it didn't go through an imam. Why would an imam be required? I typed it up myself, signed it and mailed it to her. I'm seeking paperwork WITHIN Karachi, not in the USA or Canada. You can be from mars and getting a divorce certificate in Karachi is the same as a US citizen getting a divorce certificate in karachi. I retained an attorney to sponsor my wife, but even he does not know what to do in a scenario such as mine since the divorce took place in 2007 and I have no documented proof of it. He said if I apply NOW for the divorce, and it gets dated to current timing, then my marriage becomes null and void.

Again you didnt did right way..thats your problem...this is not mine busissness, but lot question raised about you...sorry for the truth and dont get mad about other opinions

Edited December 2, 2012 by IT_1

[Unity4Life 1]

After doing some research on the internet regarding divorce procedures in Karachi and I've come across 2 terms: "Divorce Deed" and "Divorce Certificate".

Are either one of these acceptable?

Edited December 2, 2012 by Unity4Life