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Hi everyone!

I am currently 24 weeks pregnant and my husband has been gone for over a month now. He returns when the baby is 7 months old. I am going to do ROC by myself this March, but he already signed the form he needs to sign. My baby will be born in Feb, and I graduate from grad school in May and plan to spend June-Aug in the Philippines!

My questions are:

1. Can I travel for that long while ROC is pending?

2. How do I get the baby a passport and does it take long to get one? Do I need my hubby for that? I have orders and a POA

Hope someone can let me know :) Thanks!


My Journey:

We met through a study-abroad program in Shanghai, China in August of 2009

We got engaged March of 2010

I received my K1 VISA in 6 months (June-December 2010)

We were married 04/02/2011
I received my conditional 2-year greencard (AOS) in 2.5 months with no interview (April-June 2011)

Our son was born 02/03/2013

I received my masters degree in Speech-Language Pathology 04/17/2013

I received my 10-year greencard (ROC) in 3 months with no interview (March-June 2013)

My husband returned from deployment 06/20/2013

My naturalization journey took 4 months (April-August 2014)

I became a US citizen on 08/01/2014

Received passport in 3 weeks (regular processing)

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You can travel as long as you have someone checking your mail and you already have your extension letter. Hopefully you will have your biometrics appointment shortly after applying for the ROC and then the interview (if there is one) before you leave to go to the PI.

As far as the passport deal, it only takes about 4-8 weeks depending on the time of the year. I think it took us about a month to get our son's passport. As far as needing your husband to do the passport, I am pretty sure he has to sign the form for a passport...in his case it would have to be notarized and sent to you (should be no problem for him to do this while deployed). I think the only way around this is if the POA stated that you could apply for the passport on your own...but I am not 100% sure on that. I know they made it to where both parents had to sign to get a passport to keep from one "kidnapping" the child (I'm not saying that is what you would do, but it is part of a child protection act since it has happened in the past).


For our Full timeline

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Removal of conditions Journey

16 March 2012 Sent I-751 package from Aviano AB, Italy.

29 March 2012 Received everything back...wrong fee. thought we didn't have to pay biometrics since we were sending fingerprint cards and passport photos.

30 March 2012 Sent everything out again from Aviano AB, Italy.

10 April 2012 Check cashed

17 April 2012 Received NOA1 dated 6 April.

06 Dec 2012 Received 10 yr green card. Letter said it was approved 28 November 2012.

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Yeah, the passport comes in normal stated processing times, which tend to be like 4-8 weeks, so as long as you apply soon after baby's birth, it should be fine. Husband needs to sign and notarize the DS-3035 (http://travel.state.gov/passport/forms/ds3053/ds3053_846.html) giving consent for your child to obtain a passport in his absence. Otherwise both parents have to show up in person. I wouldn't depend on a POA to satisfy the requirements for this unless it is dated within 90 days of the passport application and specifically names your child. The Hague Convention on International Child Abduction is what governs this stuff and the US Dept of State is pretty serious about abiding by regulations if the other parent isn't there. That 90 days seems to come up a lot - not only must consent be given, but it must be recent. I got my son's passport with my husband outside the US, and we had him DHL me the signed/notarized consent form. For us, the hardest part was getting a notary in Mexico willing to certify it since it was in English, but in your husband's case, getting a notary shouldn't be a problem.

For all the passport requirements for a baby's passport, see this link:

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/minors/minors_834.html

Current passport processing times are here:

http://travel.state.gov/passport/processing/processing_1740.html

So really it's the stated processing times plus whatever time it takes to get the notarized consent form and the baby's SSN. (I lived in IL, it took 3 months to get our son's SSN at the time but most states suck a lot less :P)


Long story short, we have a complicated case. We've been at this for nearly 5 years. You can read our story here. I highly recommend our attorney Laurel Scott, as well as attorneys Laura Fernandez and Lizz Cannon .

Filed I-130 via CSC in Feb 2008. Petition approved June 2008. Consular interview in Mexico, Oct 2008, visa denied, INA 212a6cii. We allege improper application of the law in this case.

2012, started over in Seoul: I-130 filed DCF on 7/2, I-130 approved 8/8, Medical at Yonsei Severance 11/20, IR1 appointment in November 2012.

CRBA filed 1-3-13 at Seoul for our daughter

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Do I need my baby's SSN to get a passport for him, or can I apply for a passport right away once he is born and wait for both simultaneously to arrive?


My Journey:

We met through a study-abroad program in Shanghai, China in August of 2009

We got engaged March of 2010

I received my K1 VISA in 6 months (June-December 2010)

We were married 04/02/2011
I received my conditional 2-year greencard (AOS) in 2.5 months with no interview (April-June 2011)

Our son was born 02/03/2013

I received my masters degree in Speech-Language Pathology 04/17/2013

I received my 10-year greencard (ROC) in 3 months with no interview (March-June 2013)

My husband returned from deployment 06/20/2013

My naturalization journey took 4 months (April-August 2014)

I became a US citizen on 08/01/2014

Received passport in 3 weeks (regular processing)

Thank you, VJ! smile.png

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You can travel as long as you have someone checking your mail and you already have your extension letter. Hopefully you will have your biometrics appointment shortly after applying for the ROC and then the interview (if there is one) before you leave to go to the PI.

As far as the passport deal, it only takes about 4-8 weeks depending on the time of the year. I think it took us about a month to get our son's passport. As far as needing your husband to do the passport, I am pretty sure he has to sign the form for a passport...in his case it would have to be notarized and sent to you (should be no problem for him to do this while deployed). I think the only way around this is if the POA stated that you could apply for the passport on your own...but I am not 100% sure on that. I know they made it to where both parents had to sign to get a passport to keep from one "kidnapping" the child (I'm not saying that is what you would do, but it is part of a child protection act since it has happened in the past).

I will wait for the extension letter and biometrics before I leave.. Crossing my fingers that I don't get an interview but I'll fly back if I have to. I've seen how long ROC processing times are anyway so I was hoping I would be in the clear. Its my first time back in Manila since I came here so I really hope this works out!!

Thanks for the info! So there are notaries in Kuwait and this won't be a problem you think?

Thank you!! I am confused about the SSN.. do I have to get that first before the passport or passport first? Can I do both at the same time?

Yeah, the passport comes in normal stated processing times, which tend to be like 4-8 weeks, so as long as you apply soon after baby's birth, it should be fine. Husband needs to sign and notarize the DS-3035 (http://travel.state.gov/passport/forms/ds3053/ds3053_846.html) giving consent for your child to obtain a passport in his absence. Otherwise both parents have to show up in person. I wouldn't depend on a POA to satisfy the requirements for this unless it is dated within 90 days of the passport application and specifically names your child. The Hague Convention on International Child Abduction is what governs this stuff and the US Dept of State is pretty serious about abiding by regulations if the other parent isn't there. That 90 days seems to come up a lot - not only must consent be given, but it must be recent. I got my son's passport with my husband outside the US, and we had him DHL me the signed/notarized consent form. For us, the hardest part was getting a notary in Mexico willing to certify it since it was in English, but in your husband's case, getting a notary shouldn't be a problem.

For all the passport requirements for a baby's passport, see this link:

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/minors/minors_834.html

Current passport processing times are here:

http://travel.state.gov/passport/processing/processing_1740.html

So really it's the stated processing times plus whatever time it takes to get the notarized consent form and the baby's SSN. (I lived in IL, it took 3 months to get our son's SSN at the time but most states suck a lot less :P)


My Journey:

We met through a study-abroad program in Shanghai, China in August of 2009

We got engaged March of 2010

I received my K1 VISA in 6 months (June-December 2010)

We were married 04/02/2011
I received my conditional 2-year greencard (AOS) in 2.5 months with no interview (April-June 2011)

Our son was born 02/03/2013

I received my masters degree in Speech-Language Pathology 04/17/2013

I received my 10-year greencard (ROC) in 3 months with no interview (March-June 2013)

My husband returned from deployment 06/20/2013

My naturalization journey took 4 months (April-August 2014)

I became a US citizen on 08/01/2014

Received passport in 3 weeks (regular processing)

Thank you, VJ! smile.png

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I will wait for the extension letter and biometrics before I leave.. Crossing my fingers that I don't get an interview but I'll fly back if I have to. I've seen how long ROC processing times are anyway so I was hoping I would be in the clear. Its my first time back in Manila since I came here so I really hope this works out!!

Thanks for the info! So there are notaries in Kuwait and this won't be a problem you think?

Thank you!! I am confused about the SSN.. do I have to get that first before the passport or passport first? Can I do both at the same time?

While in the hospital, you are actually given an option to fill up the SScard application form for your newborn right at the same time when you apply for the baby's birth certificate. The SSA will mail the card to your home address. good.gif

http://ssa-custhelp....r-for-a-newborn

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While in the hospital, you are actually given an option to fill up the SScard application form for your newborn right at the same time when you apply for the baby's birth certificate. The SSA will mail the card to your home address. good.gif

http://ssa-custhelp....r-for-a-newborn

Oh wow! That's awesome! Very convenient :)


My Journey:

We met through a study-abroad program in Shanghai, China in August of 2009

We got engaged March of 2010

I received my K1 VISA in 6 months (June-December 2010)

We were married 04/02/2011
I received my conditional 2-year greencard (AOS) in 2.5 months with no interview (April-June 2011)

Our son was born 02/03/2013

I received my masters degree in Speech-Language Pathology 04/17/2013

I received my 10-year greencard (ROC) in 3 months with no interview (March-June 2013)

My husband returned from deployment 06/20/2013

My naturalization journey took 4 months (April-August 2014)

I became a US citizen on 08/01/2014

Received passport in 3 weeks (regular processing)

Thank you, VJ! smile.png

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Oh wow! That's awesome! Very convenient :)

It is biggrin.gif. I think it was about 4 weeks after I gave birth that the SS card came in the mail. In my state, the average processing time is 2 weeks + 2 weeks to receive in the mail. To find out the processing time in your state refer to this link : http://ssa-custhelp....etail/a_id/2309.

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I will wait for the extension letter and biometrics before I leave.. Crossing my fingers that I don't get an interview but I'll fly back if I have to. I've seen how long ROC processing times are anyway so I was hoping I would be in the clear. Its my first time back in Manila since I came here so I really hope this works out!!

Thanks for the info! So there are notaries in Kuwait and this won't be a problem you think?

Thank you!! I am confused about the SSN.. do I have to get that first before the passport or passport first? Can I do both at the same time?

Yes there is a notary wherever the troops are based out of. Every base has legal personnel that can notarize documents. They can't expect us to have everything in line before we deploy. (even though we should, but things come up all the time). Where in Kuwait is your husband? Ali Al Saleem?

As far as the SSN, the base had us fill out the paperwork when my son was born. I think we received the SSN within a month of his birth. You do need to put it on the passport form from what I remember.


For our Full timeline

event.png

Removal of conditions Journey

16 March 2012 Sent I-751 package from Aviano AB, Italy.

29 March 2012 Received everything back...wrong fee. thought we didn't have to pay biometrics since we were sending fingerprint cards and passport photos.

30 March 2012 Sent everything out again from Aviano AB, Italy.

10 April 2012 Check cashed

17 April 2012 Received NOA1 dated 6 April.

06 Dec 2012 Received 10 yr green card. Letter said it was approved 28 November 2012.

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You do not need a SSN to get a passport. It is NOT a national ID number and you are not required to have one. You don't need to wait for one to apply for a passport.


AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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USCIS has a military assistance line if needed and other resources, http://search.uscis.gov/search?affiliate=82601b2ec&query=military+spouse


In Arizona its hot hot hot.

http://www.uscis.gov/dateCalculator.html

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You do not need a SSN to get a passport. It is NOT a national ID number and you are not required to have one. You don't need to wait for one to apply for a passport.

Great!! Thank you Harpah! That's what I was hoping for. The sooner I can get it done, the better :)


My Journey:

We met through a study-abroad program in Shanghai, China in August of 2009

We got engaged March of 2010

I received my K1 VISA in 6 months (June-December 2010)

We were married 04/02/2011
I received my conditional 2-year greencard (AOS) in 2.5 months with no interview (April-June 2011)

Our son was born 02/03/2013

I received my masters degree in Speech-Language Pathology 04/17/2013

I received my 10-year greencard (ROC) in 3 months with no interview (March-June 2013)

My husband returned from deployment 06/20/2013

My naturalization journey took 4 months (April-August 2014)

I became a US citizen on 08/01/2014

Received passport in 3 weeks (regular processing)

Thank you, VJ! smile.png

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So if you leave the SSN field blank on the passport application form, they will still issue the passport without it? I'm speaking specifically about babies born inside the US, not babies born abroad.


Long story short, we have a complicated case. We've been at this for nearly 5 years. You can read our story here. I highly recommend our attorney Laurel Scott, as well as attorneys Laura Fernandez and Lizz Cannon .

Filed I-130 via CSC in Feb 2008. Petition approved June 2008. Consular interview in Mexico, Oct 2008, visa denied, INA 212a6cii. We allege improper application of the law in this case.

2012, started over in Seoul: I-130 filed DCF on 7/2, I-130 approved 8/8, Medical at Yonsei Severance 11/20, IR1 appointment in November 2012.

CRBA filed 1-3-13 at Seoul for our daughter

4MLHm5.pngCzLqp9.png

You can find me at

Immigrate2us.net as Los G :)

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*** Thread moved from Working & Traveling forum to Military forum -- OP's situation relies on Military's support. ***


06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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So if you leave the SSN field blank on the passport application form, they will still issue the passport without it? I'm speaking specifically about babies born inside the US, not babies born abroad.

Yes; you are never required to get a SSN ever. Some USCs manage to never get one (I am guessing these people are wealthy and never work and live lives as international playboys ;)). I have seen USCs petition loved ones on here with no SSN. It is not a national ID number - it is simply a number used to determine Social Security benefits, which children don't start to buy into for at least 16 years or so. If you have a SSN, you need to supply it on the application, but if you do not have one, you cannot supply it and do not have to get one.

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AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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