‘Anti-Islam’ film spurs U.S. embassy, consulate attacks in Cairo, Benghazi

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Okay, I'll ignore all of the above since it served no real purpose and certainly didn't address the questions that I politely asked.

So, the answer is for America to get even more involved in the Middle East?

I answered your question honestly and fully to the best of my knowledge and of course in my opinion, but I guess it wasn't the answer you were looking for.

So why don't you just go ahead and post your opinion on what the answer is, instead of trying to fish for it ?

[B_J 2,752]

I answered your question honestly and fully to the best of my knowledge and of course in my opinion, but I guess it wasn't the answer you were looking for.

So why don't you just go ahead and post your opinion on what the answer is, instead of trying to fish for it ?

I guess this is hard to understand but I don't have an opinion. I don't know enough about the region or the religion to even make a guess on what to do. I've read your posts and thought you were much more knowledgeable about this area of the world than I am. So, I was simply asking for you opinion. I was just surprised that the answer was more US involvement. I thought that most of the protestors, both violent and non-violent, want the US out of the region. So, your answer caught me by surprise.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

I guess this is hard to understand but I don't have an opinion. I don't know enough about the region or the religion to even make a guess on what to do. I've read your posts and thought you were much more knowledgeable about this area of the world than I am. So, I was simply asking for you opinion. I was just surprised that the answer was more US involvement. I thought that most of the protestors, both violent and non-violent, want the US out of the region. So, your answer caught me by surprise.

You asked:

What can be done so that some percentage of the 2 billion Muslims doesn't go crazy and start attacking Americans?

I am not saying you personally are to blame, but basically:

If one doesn't like the situation that exists now in countries where governments were either toppled by the U.S., or where revolutions were supported by the U.S., or where ongoing dictatorships were supported by the U.S., well - then either help them fix the places that the U.S. helped break, or kwitcherbitchen.

[Boiler 43,745]

Obviously there is no solution, all you can do is minimise the impact.

From a US perspective that would include stop nation building etc, seem to work much better if you just let them focus on their internal issues.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Obviously there is no solution, all you can do is minimise the impact.

From a US perspective that would include stop nation building etc, seem to work much better if you just let them focus on their internal issues.

Stopping the nation wrecking would help even more, plus save the U.S. taxpayer a lot more money.

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

I guess this is hard to understand but I don't have an opinion. I don't know enough about the region or the religion to even make a guess on what to do. I've read your posts and thought you were much more knowledgeable about this area of the world than I am. So, I was simply asking for you opinion. I was just surprised that the answer was more US involvement. I thought that most of the protestors, both violent and non-violent, want the US out of the region. So, your answer caught me by surprise.

People love Americans, that's a fact. US foreign policy is a mess, the people want a free and democratic government but they don't want an American puppet. People love Americans, there are a few nutjobs, but people love Americans. Never forget that.

Obviously there is no solution, all you can do is minimise the impact.

From a US perspective that would include stop nation building etc, seem to work much better if you just let them focus on their internal issues.

Help them out, but don't control them. it will take patience and understanding.

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

So what do we do to stop some percentage of Muslims from attacking consulates ?

Put a Canadian flag on them. Problem solved!

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

My use of the word "all" didn't mean that every Muslim in the entire world is now at an embassy protesting.

My question still remains... what is the solution? No matter what the percentage of Muslims not protesting, the number who are is still significant. And even assuming, as you said, they are just gullible patsies, what's the solution? Every once in a while, something disrespectful towards Islam will be done somewhere in the world. What can be done so that some percentage of the 2 billion Muslims doesn't go crazy and start attacking Americans?

Nothing, some folks are just plain loonie tunes. Keeping folks busy with work and higher education might help but some folks just gotta riot. Just won or lost the Superbowl, time for a riot. That twisted mob mentality is pervasive and has nothing to do with Islam. Some guys (almost always) are jerks.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

People love Americans, that's a fact. US foreign policy is a mess, the people want a free and democratic government but they don't want an American puppet. People love Americans, there are a few nutjobs, but people love Americans. Never forget that.

Help them out, but don't control them. it will take patience and understanding.

The line is, and I seem to have heard it almost everywhere I have traveled outside the US*, "We love Americans, but we hate what America does."

Then you ask them, how were things under the British, the Japanese, the French, the Spanish, whoever, and they say, "We prefer to be left alone, but like America better."

*Well, except the Philippines. It seems almost every Filipino has an American dream. I heard the same thing there, just not very often. America left, and look what happened.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

Well lookie here - seems Pamela Geller may indeed have helped raise money to fund the film. Link includes new information as to who may have actually written the script, why it was ready to start production just a month after Nakoula Basseley Nakoula got out of prison, and where the obscure Coptic Christian non-profit may have suddenly gotten all that cash:

My link

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

The line is, and I seem to have heard it almost everywhere I have traveled outside the US*, "We love Americans, but we hate what America does."

Then you ask them, how were things under the British, the Japanese, the French, the Spanish, whoever, and they say, "We prefer to be left alone, but like America better."

*Well, except the Philippines. It seems almost every Filipino has an American dream. I heard the same thing there, just not very often. America left, and look what happened.

The Filipinos HATED the Americans for most of the early 20th Century but things started to change after WWII. America squanders the love that people have for Americans with some truly bonehead moves. The Ugly American still rings true today, 60 years after it was published. Americans are the first to help when their is a disaster or problem but it's easier to mutter 'DEATH TO AMERICA.'

Well lookie here - seems Pamela Geller may indeed have helped raise money to fund the film. Link includes new information as to who may have actually written the script, why it was ready to start production just a month after Nakoula Basseley Nakoula got out of prison, and where the obscure Coptic Christian non-profit may have suddenly gotten all that cash:

My link

Why am I not surprised?

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

And this just in...

Video shows Libyans trying to rescue US ambassador

CAIRO (AP) — Libyans tried to rescue Ambassador Chris Stevens, cheering "God is great" and rushing him to a hospital after they discovered him still clinging to life inside the U.S. Consulate, according to witnesses and a new video that emerged Monday from last week's attack in the city of Benghazi.

The group of Libyans had stumbled across Stevens' seemingly lifeless form inside a dark room and didn't know who he was, only that he was a foreigner, the man who shot the video and two other witnesses told The Associated Press.

The account underlines the confusion that reigned during the assault by protesters and heavily armed gunmen that overwhelmed the consulate in Benghazi last Tuesday night, killing four Americans, including Stevens, who died from smoke inhalation soon after he was found. U.S. officials are still trying to piece together how the top American diplomat in Libya got separated from others as staffers were evacuated, suffocating in what is believed to be a consulate safe-room.

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http://news.yahoo.com/video-shows-libyans-trying-rescue-us-ambassador-194148880.html

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

The Filipinos HATED the Americans for most of the early 20th Century but things started to change after WWII. America squanders the love that people have for Americans with some truly bonehead moves. The Ugly American still rings true today, 60 years after it was published. Americans are the first to help when their is a disaster or problem but it's easier to mutter 'DEATH TO AMERICA.'

One problem I saw was most of the diplomatic core are political appointees. You really end up with some lame or downright criminal people in charge of the US mission in the backwater areas, and they use the funds that are supposed to be helping the local population as their own personal slush funds, or for walking-around money.

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

One problem I saw was most of the diplomatic core are political appointees. You really end up with some lame or downright criminal people in charge of the US mission in the backwater areas, and they use the funds that are supposed to be helping the local population as their own personal slush funds, or for walking-around money.

Or they just pi$$ people off with their ignorant actions.

[IR5FORMUMSIE 850]

And this just in...

They CARRIED his body to the hospital, they knew who it was that they were carrying despite what the article says. Not many people understand how important carrying a body is or how it is an honour reserved for loved ones.