California bar: Illegal immigrant should get law license

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By Miranda Leitsinger, msnbc.com

An illegal immigrant applying for a law license in California should be allowed to receive it, the State Bar of California argues in a filing to the state Supreme Court.

Sergio Garcia, 35, of Chico, Calif., has met the rules for admission, including passing the bar exam and the moral character review, and his lack of legal status in the United States should not automatically disqualify him, the Committee of Bar Examiners said Monday.

“ … Mr. Garcia’s status in the United States, should not, ipso facto, be grounds for excluding him from law licensure. He has met all of the prescribed qualifications and there is no reason to believe he cannot take the oath and faithfully uphold his duties as an attorney,” the bar said.

Garcia's father is a naturalized citizen, according to the bar, and Garcia is waiting for a visa that would give him legal permanent residency. His application for a law license is being weighed by the court because his case is unprecedented in the state, the bar committee said.

A similar case is being heard in Florida for a bar applicant in that state, Jose Godinez-Samperio, who came from Mexico to the United States as a child with his parents and overstayed a tourist visa. How justices rule in the cases in California and Florida could affect other illegal immigrants who hope to follow in their footsteps.

Some 11.5 million “unauthorized immigrants,” as the Department of Homeland Security calls illegal immigrants, lived in the United States as of January 2011. Of that, 6.8 million were from Mexico, like Garcia, according to the department’s Office of Immigration Statistics. On Friday, President Barack Obama announced that some of the immigrants who came to the country as children – and met other requirements -- would be able to get two-year work permits. He also called on immigration officials to halt deportation proceedings against them.

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Garcia, who attended law school and college in California, does not fit in that group because he is over the age limit of 30, but he is nonetheless overjoyed for those who do. He has been waiting nearly 18 years for a visa, though his petition for it was approved in 1995, the bar said.

“That’s the state of our immigration system … our immigration system is broken,” Garcia told msnbc.com, estimating he will have to wait another five years for the visa. “It’s really painful.”

A decision on his bar application could still be at least months away for Garcia. Others now have one month to submit their own legal filings in the case, and then the state bar would have another month to reply to those, the court said.

“I have always been an eternal optimist so this (bar recommendation) does give me hope,” Garcia, who submitted his application to the bar in 2009, told msnbc.com. “I have faith that my dream of being an attorney will be realized sooner rather than later.”

In the filing, the bar committee said it was not aware of any statute, regulation or authority that would preclude his admission. It noted that Garcia’s employability in the U.S. should not determine whether he gets a license, citing the cases of foreign students who can get admitted to the California bar but may not stay in the country to practice law afterward.

“ … the grant of a law license provides no guarantee of a pathway to lawful employment in the United States for these individuals,” the bar committee said. “What Mr. Garcia, or any other foreign applicant, does with his license after licensure must comport with federal regulations and that is a matter strictly between him and the federal government.”

Former Supreme Court Justice Carlos Moreno, who supports Garcia’s application, said that the court was the ultimate authority on attorney admissions in the state and would likely establish a rule in this case that would apply to similar ones in the future. But the possibility that undocumented immigrants could receive law licenses doesn’t sit well with some.

“I know what the policy ought to be, which is that … someone who doesn’t have the right to be in the United States shouldn’t be admitted to the bar, period,” Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington think tank that supports tighter immigration controls, told msnbc.com in late April.

“This is trying to steal a base. In other words, they’re trying to skip over the debate over whether people in his situation should get legalized,” he added. “It’s one more way of trying to create a de facto legalization.”

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The State Bar of California is right thinking.

[JohnR! 5,495]

By Miranda Leitsinger, msnbc.com

Sergio Garcia, 35, of Chico, Calif., has met the rules for admission, including passing the bar exam and the moral character review, and his lack of legal status in the United States should not automatically disqualify him, the Committee of Bar Examiners said Monday.

That very much sums it up.

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Sergio Garcia, 35, of Chico, Calif., has met the rules for admission, including passing the bar exam and the moral character review, and his lack of legal status in the United States should not automatically disqualify him, the Committee of Bar Examiners said Monday.

That very much sums it up.

yea it does ... he legally should not be in the US yet he is. moral character is not his strength.

now if he wants the law license to practice from the country where he is legally able to reside ...

Edited June 19, 2012 by natty bumppo

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Yeah, "Stay the ** out unless you're a highly skilled professional, rich, or a petite, young woman from a Third World Country being brought over by a pudgy, middle-aged Amurikan!"

Edited June 19, 2012 by Mister Fancypants

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Yeah, "Stay the ** out unless you're a highly skilled professional, rich, or a petite, young woman from a Third World Country being brought over by a pudgy, middle-aged Amurikan!"

so ... tell us how you really feel

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Moral Character?

The guy broke the law to attempt to file his license.

Good god, no wonder California is a laughing stock and people are FLEEing from the state!

Now if only we could deport them from Texas, all would be great. However unlike the "illegals" from down south, the Californian's are legal. Many of us here are willing to make the trade... Amnesty of illegals if the Californians go home and stay the ** out!

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The guy broke the law to attempt to file his license.

Not according to the Bar Association of California... :rofl:

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yea it does ... he legally should not be in the US yet he is. moral character is not his strength.

now if he wants the law license to practice from the country where he is legally able to reside ...

No, it states clearly that he passed the moral character review. He doesn't have to pass your moral character review, just the six month process conducted by the California Commitee of Bar Examiners. Granted your standards are perhaps higher than theirs, but from a legal standpoint, it only matters what the bar examiners decided.

Getting a license and practising law are two different things. Obviously he can't legally practice law here. That doesn't mean he cant legally get a license.

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his father is a naturalized USC & he has filed for LPR. he has done all he can at this point....so whats the problem?

yea it does ... he legally should not be in the US yet he is. moral character is not his strength.

now if he wants the law license to practice from the country where he is legally able to reside ...

sounds like a lawyer to me.

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his father is a naturalized USC & he has filed for LPR. he has done all he can at this point....so whats the problem?

so he has filed the paperwork and is waiting for others to complete/ process the paperwork (that does sound awful familiar on this site)

no job is complete until the paperwork is done ....

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Yeah, "Stay the ** out unless you're a highly skilled professional, rich, or a petite, young woman from a Third World Country being brought over by a pudgy, middle-aged Amurikan!"

i'm actually giggling about the educated/highly skilled illegals not getting deported. i think some peoples views on illegal immigration are going to change very soon.

so he has filed the paperwork and is waiting for others to complete/ process the paperwork (that does sound awful familiar on this site)

no job is complete until the paperwork is done ....

the article doesn't say. does he have an EAD? if yes...let him have the license

[JohnR! 5,495]

the article doesn't say. does he have an EAD? if yes...let him have the license

Maybe because it is immaterial for the matter at hand?

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By Miranda Leitsinger, msnbc.com

An illegal immigrant

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source: http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jun/11/local/la-me-sergio-garcia-20120611

When Sergio C. Garcia was sworn in as a lawyer at a courthouse in Chico late last year, hundreds showed up. A local restaurant gave out food and a Spanish radio station covered the event. In this community bounded by orchards and fields, Garcia's success was unique, and cherished.

His parents had brought him to the United States illegally when he was 17 months old. They toiled as farmworkers and constantly encouraged their children to go to school. As an adult, Garcia worked full time at a grocery store while attending college. He passed the bar exam on the first try and after a two-year wait, he received a notice saying he could be sworn in.