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VERMONT! I Reject Your Reality...and Substitute My Own!

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Not to burst your bubble but one punch breaking a nose can lead to blackening both eyes, and falling down backwards easily explains 'lacerations' which simply mean cuts and therefor the word is not indicative of the severity. Starting a fight and losing it should never be a defense for using deadly force to stop said fight.

Not pre-judging the case, but I am safely assuming you think the injuries as described in this article justify the shooting? If so back to the drawing board.


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Not to burst your bubble but one punch breaking a nose can lead to blackening both eyes, and falling down backwards easily explains 'lacerations' which simply mean cuts and therefor the word is not indicative of the severity. Starting a fight and losing it should never be a defense for using deadly force to stop said fight.

Not pre-judging the case, but I am safely assuming you think the injuries as described in this article justify the shooting? If so back to the drawing board.

"Reasonable fear of death or serious injury" justifies deadly force. Thats the law.


VERMONT! I Reject Your Reality...and Substitute My Own!

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So it is irrelevant whatever I might do to piss you off or make you fearful of me, if you throw a punch I can take you out right then and there!

Yes, exactly. It could be that way. If I am a 7 year old, no. If I am a 17 year old 6 feet tall and not only "theow a punch" but connect and break your nose and then force you to the ground and bang your head on the concrete...oh yeah.

Words would likely not be judged to be able to cause fear of death or serious injury. A punch to the nose absolutely can. It will be judged by a jury of 12 in Florida and those 12 jurors must unanimously agree that Zimmerman was NOT in fear of death or serious injury.

The medical report does not help that case. I suppose that is why it was not posted by our liberal internet slueths. Didn't fit the agenda


VERMONT! I Reject Your Reality...and Substitute My Own!

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So it is irrelevant whatever I might do to piss you off or make you fearful of me, if you throw a punch I can take you out right then and there!

What "you might do" is relevant. If what you do is inflict "the injuries as described in this article" (note that no mention was made of whether the claims are true or false), then yes, you can reasonably expect someone with a gun to take you out.


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What "you might do" is relevant. If what you do is inflict "the injuries as described in this article" (note that no mention was made of whether the claims are true or false), then yes, you can reasonably expect someone with a gun to take you out.

No. You don't get it. My hypothetical was putting myself in the shoes of Zimmerman and YOU in the shoes of Martin! Are you incapable of seeing this situation from that perspective? It would certainly help explain your position!

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No. You don't get it. My hypothetical was putting myself in the shoes of Zimmerman and YOU in the shoes of Martin! Are you incapable of seeing this situation from that perspective? It would certainly help explain your position!

Martin will have his chance to tell his side of the.......NM.

Rule number 2 about deadly force...

It is best if only ONE person testifies to the grand jury.

This is WHY they make a .45

The article you linked is 4hrs old. Probably needs a little more time before we call this a full blown conspiracy.

Likely excuse.


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Looks like self-defense to me. :thumbs:


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No. You don't get it. My hypothetical was putting myself in the shoes of Zimmerman and YOU in the shoes of Martin! Are you incapable of seeing this situation from that perspective? It would certainly help explain your position!

Either way. IF (and that's a big IF - the courts will decide) the story is true, then lethal force was justified.


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Absolutely. That's what "self-defense" usually means.

Is it "self-defense" when your actions directly caused a physical confrontation? One you end, when it turns out you're a glass jawed panty-waste, with deadly gunfire to stop the beating you brougt on yourself?

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  • April 2004 met online
  • July 16, 2006 Met in person on her birthday in United Arab Emirates
  • August 4, 2006 sent certified mail I-129F packet Neb SC
  • August 9, 2006 NOA1
  • August 21, 2006 received NOA1 in mail
  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
  • October 13, 2006 NOA2! November 2, 2006 NOA2? Huh? NVC already processed and sent us on to Abu Dhabi Consulate!
  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

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  • May 1, 2009 first day to file
  • May 9, 2009 mailed I-751 to USCIS CS

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If you're reasonably certain you're a pansy in a fist fight then starting one and "defending" yourself from a beating you brought about is hardly "self-defense."

You know what went down as well as everyone else. The deceased was talking to a women on a cell phone. He wanted to score points with her. Show her he was a big man about town. Told her "This guy is giving me no respect". He is dissing me. He goes up to Zimmerman to put a few moves coach taught him from football and cold cocks him.Down zimmerman goes and is jumped upon. His head is being smacked against the cement curve.He made a fatal error in judgment. He assulted a man with a gun. This case should be written up as a sucide for attacking a man with a gun.


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