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Filed: Country: Canada
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I figured I'd make this it's own topic as it's sort of separate from my other one.

So we (my fiance and I) were looking at what getting married in Ontario is going to entail...always read the fine print (ugh). To be married in Ontario, because my fiance was divorced before, we need to get a letter of opinion from a Lawyer, and then apply for the marriage license. They are only valid for 3 months and he needs to go with me with his passport and birth certificate. He is coming to see me in early June, and the the wedding is Sept 22nd so that's obviously not going to work out....it will be very expensive for the letter of opinion, time consuming, and there's not going to be an approrpiate time that he can go with me to get the marriage lisence. I can obviously go without him as long as I have his passport to file...but he kind of needs that to get back into the US.

Now we are considering getting married here first and having the reception / renewal of vows etc in Ontario.

my question is - if we get married in the US and I don't have a K1 Visa and tell the POE officer that I'm just visiting, is it considered fraud? I would be returning to Ontario and waiting until after our wedding to file, it would just save us a LOT of money and headache to be married here first.

Will it affect my ability to travel if I'm married here vs. Ontario and filing, or is it all the same in the wash?

Thanks

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As long as you leave the country to wait for the appropriate process it is not an issue. If you get married you will not be eligible for K-1 Visa and will have to go with CR1/IR1 visa.


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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Morocco
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If you enter the country with the intention of marrying and tell the border officer that you aren't that is fraud. I would say that if you are doing something that does not allow you to be perfectly honest in all questions that probably isn't the best idea.

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This is what we did... As long as you get married in the US and the not USC returns home after it is not a problem. You must then file for a CR-1 visa thought (spousal visa since you are already married).

If you claim to just be visiting... then get married.. then try to do an adjustment of status without returning home... THAT is where things become illegal. You cannot get married here in the US with the intent to remain here unless on a fiance visa.

Just be careful and prove at customs that you ARE returning home after the visit and wedding takes place. Proof would be a return ticket home, a note from school or work saying when you are expected back, a note from a landlord or something similar showing you are in a lease... anything that proves you will be going home and do not intend to overstay and/or sneakily adjust your status.

Good luck! Hope all goes well :)


Met Through Mutual Friends: Early March 2009

Began dating: June 24th, 2010

Met in Manchester, England: October 20, 2010 to Oct 25, 2010

"Officially" became a couple: November 25, 2010

New Years together in England: Dec 26, 2010 to Jan 2, 2011

Visit to meet my family: February 19, 2011 to February 26, 2011

Visit to spend Easter/Spring Break together: April 16, 2011 to April 30, 2011

Spent the summer together in New York: June 23, 2011 to August 1, 2011

Came to visit just after my birthday: October 13, 2011 to October 23, 2011

Officially Announced Our Engagement: November 30, 2011

Trip to NY for New Years: December 27, 2011 to January 9, 2012

Wedding Day: January 4th, 2012

Trip to England & Italy for Valentine's Day: February 10, 2012 to February 20, 2012

Visit to NY for our 2 year dating anniversary: June 20th, 2012 to July 4th, 2012

Timeline

USCIS

01/08/2012: I-130 Sent from NY

01/11/2012: USPS Delivery Confirmation

01/12/2012: NOA1 E-mail & Text

XX/XX/2012: NOA2 E-mail & Text(STILL waitinggg... Ahhh!)

NVC

XX/XX/2012: NVC received

XX/XX/2012: Case number/IIN

XX/XX/2012: DS-3032 sent

XX/XX/2012: DS-3032 accepted

XX/XX/2012: AOS Bill PAID

XX/XX/2012: AOS Package sent

XX/XX/2012: IV Bill PAID

XX/XX/2012: IV Package sent

XX/XX/2012: Case complete at NVC

XX/XX/2012: Interview scheduled (Interview Date: XX/XX/2012)

US Embassy London

XX/XX/2012: Embassy received

XX/XX/2012: Medical

XX/XX/2012: Interview

XX/XX/2012: Visa

XX/XX/2012: POE Boston

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If you enter the country with the intention of marrying and tell the border officer that you aren't that is fraud. I would say that if you are doing something that does not allow you to be perfectly honest in all questions that probably isn't the best idea.

^^ I also agree with this. You should not lie to anyone about your intent or it would be much worse. Tell them honestly that you are getting married but make sure to have more than enough proof of your return home as I stated before.

We did this and there were no issues, just be honest and have proof of your intentions.


Met Through Mutual Friends: Early March 2009

Began dating: June 24th, 2010

Met in Manchester, England: October 20, 2010 to Oct 25, 2010

"Officially" became a couple: November 25, 2010

New Years together in England: Dec 26, 2010 to Jan 2, 2011

Visit to meet my family: February 19, 2011 to February 26, 2011

Visit to spend Easter/Spring Break together: April 16, 2011 to April 30, 2011

Spent the summer together in New York: June 23, 2011 to August 1, 2011

Came to visit just after my birthday: October 13, 2011 to October 23, 2011

Officially Announced Our Engagement: November 30, 2011

Trip to NY for New Years: December 27, 2011 to January 9, 2012

Wedding Day: January 4th, 2012

Trip to England & Italy for Valentine's Day: February 10, 2012 to February 20, 2012

Visit to NY for our 2 year dating anniversary: June 20th, 2012 to July 4th, 2012

Timeline

USCIS

01/08/2012: I-130 Sent from NY

01/11/2012: USPS Delivery Confirmation

01/12/2012: NOA1 E-mail & Text

XX/XX/2012: NOA2 E-mail & Text(STILL waitinggg... Ahhh!)

NVC

XX/XX/2012: NVC received

XX/XX/2012: Case number/IIN

XX/XX/2012: DS-3032 sent

XX/XX/2012: DS-3032 accepted

XX/XX/2012: AOS Bill PAID

XX/XX/2012: AOS Package sent

XX/XX/2012: IV Bill PAID

XX/XX/2012: IV Package sent

XX/XX/2012: Case complete at NVC

XX/XX/2012: Interview scheduled (Interview Date: XX/XX/2012)

US Embassy London

XX/XX/2012: Embassy received

XX/XX/2012: Medical

XX/XX/2012: Interview

XX/XX/2012: Visa

XX/XX/2012: POE Boston

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Filed: Country: Canada
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Thanks...I definetly don't want to stay yet. I won't even be telling friends and family that we got married because our cerimony and reception is in Canada on Sept 22 / 12. It is merley a matter of convenience.

I just don't want to do it if it will jeopardize me being able to come or getting a visa...it is the same as him coming to Canada and us getting married I suppose, just the opposite side of things.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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What a pain in the ####### that is! In Alberta all I had to do was show the commisionary my divorce decree and we got the license right then.

Getting married in the US is no big deal. People do it everyday. As long as you go home to file for the CR-1, there are absolutely no problems. 99% of the time if you tell the CBP officer what you are doing, and you are well aware of the immigration procedures, they have no problems letting you in. Be truthful, look them in the eye, try to not be too nervous, and keep your answers short and to the point. (they don't want a life story) And do no 'volunteer' information.

We were married for a year before I ever filed the I-130 for my husband for his CR-1 visa. He's never had a problem what so ever. He always took poof of his ties to Canada and always told them that he was visiting his wife in Tennessee. One time he was held up but it was Christmas and the CBP officer was cranky. Once Mr. Sheeshka explained that I had not filed yet, because we were saving money for the move and filing fees Mr. Cranky Pants CBP officer let him through.

There are some people who either get pulled into secondary screening (I've been there twice) and there are those that do get denied entry. It does happen. So like Heatdeath said, be sure to take all your proof and have a back up plan just in case.

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USCIS- 260 Days

6/8/11~ Mailed I-130 Application, withdrew Canadian PR application
6/16/11~ NOA1 email and text message Case routed to CSC (Priority Date)
7/12/11~ The 'Money Order' Incident/Returned to Tennessee
8/03/11~ TOUCHED!
3/2/12~ APPROVED! NOA2!

NVC Electronic Processing- Montreal- 19 Days

3/21/12~ Received case number & IIN 20 Days after NOA2
3/21/12~ Sent in opt-in email
3/22/12~ Opt-in accepted
3/23/12~ DS-261 Submitted, never accepted
3/29/12~ AOS bill invoiced and paid
3/30/12~ AOS shows PAID- AOS Package emailed/received, DS-3032 emailed/accepted
4/2/12~ IV bill invoiced and paid
4/3/12~ AOS Checklist documents emailed(first time)
4/4/12~ IV shows PAID- DS-260 submitted/ IV Package emailed/received
4/4/12~ AOS Checklist documents sent again for CYA (second time)
4/5/12~ IV package accepted! No Checklists!
4/6/12~ AOS Checklist emailed(third time)
4/9/12~ AOS packet accepted (finally)
CASE COMPLETE!!

Interview 354 days from NOA1/ 362 days from initial filing date
5/29/12~ Medical@ Medisys, Montreal
6/4/12~ Interview APPROVED!!!
08/07/2012~ POE Emerson, MB/Pembina, ND by land
08/09/2012~ HOME!! 424 days from initial filing date!
08/14/2012~ SSN Received
09/10/2012~ Received Green Card

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: China
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Moved from IR-1/CR-1 Process & Procedures to Canada regional forum; topic pertains to border crossing procedures between Canada and the US.


Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

 

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Canada
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Thats what we did! On a visit to the USA, got married and started the CR-1 paperwork!! Didnt tell 99.9% of her family and then later on had a "wedding" lol Obviously were not very religious people, so was easy to pull off.


Canadians Visiting the USA while undergoing the visa process, my free advice:

1) Always tell the TRUTH. never lie to the POE officer

2) Be confident in ur replies

3) keep ur response short and to the point, don't tell ur life story!!

4) look the POE officer in the eye when speaking to them. They are looking for people lieing and have been trained to find them!

5) Pack light! No job resumes with you

6) Bring ties to Canada (letter from employer when ur expected back at work, lease, etc etc)

7) Always be polite, being rude isn't going to get ya anywhere, and could make things worse!!

8) Have a plan in case u do get denied (be polite) It wont harm ur visa application if ur denied,that is if ur polite and didn't lie! Refer to #1

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