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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Russia
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Dear Members!

Long story short receiving the final piece of my immigration journey did not go smoothly after the interview but it final! I remember that officer said that there are going to be instructions with my naturalization certificate on how to sign and else but I never received those. Could you please share what is it about those instructions I need to know so I can finish this up and apply for passport tomorrow.

Many thanks!


02/14/2008 Valentine`s Day Wedding!

AOS

04/09/2008 I-130 sent to Chicago Lockbox

05/03/2008 call to USCIS because NOA1 not received ;( Got the receipt number and was told that we cannot get replacement NOA1.

08/21/2008 request for NOA1 for I-130 to file AOS placed over the phone and forwarded to VSC. Thanks to the first great Rep at USCIS hotline

10/17/2008 Hubby`s B-day, NOA1 for I-130 finally arrives!

10/21/2008 AOS sent to Chicago lockbox

10/31/2008 NOAs for AOS received

11/06/2008 I-130 is transferred to CSC

11/20/2008 biometrics done

12/02/2008 I-130 APPROVED!!!

01/02/2009 EAD received

02/12/2009 Interview APPROVED!!!

02/17/2009 welcome letter received

02/23/2009 GC received!!! yay!!!

RC

11/18/2010 I-751 Sent to VSC

11/22/2010 NOA1

01/07/2011 Early Bio

01/27/2011 Scheduled Bio

05/11/2011 RC approved

05/17/2011 GC received

Naturalization

11/14/2011 Sent package via Priority to Nebraska SC

11/25/2011 NOA made it

Relocated to NE

04/03/2012 Interview passed!!!

04/10/2012 Oath

04/10/2012 New prints required/done

04/14/2012 Received a welcome packet but still no certificate

04/17/2012 Certificate is here!!!!! Dated 04/16/2012 huh????

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Dear Members!

Long story short receiving the final piece of my immigration journey did not go smoothly after the interview but it final! I remember that officer said that there are going to be instructions with my naturalization certificate on how to sign and else but I never received those. Could you please share what is it about those instructions I need to know so I can finish this up and apply for passport tomorrow.

Many thanks!

You're supposed to sign it exactly the same way as you signed it on the photo that is on the certificate. Congratulations!

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Russia
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You're supposed to sign it exactly the same way as you signed it on the photo that is on the certificate. Congratulations!

My name is pretty long so they made me do a middle initial in the picture. So I need to sign the same way? And thanks ;)


02/14/2008 Valentine`s Day Wedding!

AOS

04/09/2008 I-130 sent to Chicago Lockbox

05/03/2008 call to USCIS because NOA1 not received ;( Got the receipt number and was told that we cannot get replacement NOA1.

08/21/2008 request for NOA1 for I-130 to file AOS placed over the phone and forwarded to VSC. Thanks to the first great Rep at USCIS hotline

10/17/2008 Hubby`s B-day, NOA1 for I-130 finally arrives!

10/21/2008 AOS sent to Chicago lockbox

10/31/2008 NOAs for AOS received

11/06/2008 I-130 is transferred to CSC

11/20/2008 biometrics done

12/02/2008 I-130 APPROVED!!!

01/02/2009 EAD received

02/12/2009 Interview APPROVED!!!

02/17/2009 welcome letter received

02/23/2009 GC received!!! yay!!!

RC

11/18/2010 I-751 Sent to VSC

11/22/2010 NOA1

01/07/2011 Early Bio

01/27/2011 Scheduled Bio

05/11/2011 RC approved

05/17/2011 GC received

Naturalization

11/14/2011 Sent package via Priority to Nebraska SC

11/25/2011 NOA made it

Relocated to NE

04/03/2012 Interview passed!!!

04/10/2012 Oath

04/10/2012 New prints required/done

04/14/2012 Received a welcome packet but still no certificate

04/17/2012 Certificate is here!!!!! Dated 04/16/2012 huh????

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I didn't even realize the certificate needs to be signed. Glad I found this thread. What if your photo doesn't have a signature? For me, they just used the photo I sent along with the application. Topic of signature never came up with the IO.

On my certificate I have my First Middle Last name as well as my SSN card. I always sign using First and Last though on on all documents including USCIS forms. I'm reading online now that you must sign with your middle name as well. That won't match anything I've ever signed in my life if I follow that rule. What would be consequence of signing it however I like?

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
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I didn't even realize the certificate needs to be signed. Glad I found this thread. What if your photo doesn't have a signature? For me, they just used the photo I sent along with the application. Topic of signature never came up with the IO.

On my certificate I have my First Middle Last name as well as my SSN card. I always sign using First and Last though on on all documents including USCIS forms. I'm reading online now that you must sign with your middle name as well. That won't match anything I've ever signed in my life if I follow that rule. What would be consequence of signing it however I like?

I thought for all documents here we only had to use first and last name. I've always signed my middle name though, since forever.

I'm changing my name and I was gonna keep my maiden last name but at the interview the Officer said it would not fit on my certificate for ONE letter.So I decided to remove it. :)


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Random question here, kind of related to the subject but not really (lol)...

When I had my interview yesterday, they needed me to sign the documents on the N400 application in script writing (cursive). Now, I never ever signed my signature like that before (last time I wrote my name in cursive/script was when I was still in elementary). I still did it, as they requested me to do this, but here's the thing I am wondering about... since I don't use it as my signature, how is it possible they request us to write it like that while it is no signature of us? Is that even a legal signature if you make it not like your regular signature (my regular signature is an unreadable mark but that's why you always have to print your name next to it)?After all, they force you to make a signature like that, even though it is not like your regular signature. And, to make it a bit more related to this topic, is this also the way how you are required to sign your signature on the naturalization certificate?

I just cannot imagine this is right for them to do. For example, my wife and I just bought a car, we're in the process of buying a new house, and I signed it all with my regular signature (the unreadable thing). If the bank would see a (readable) script/cursive signature of me, they would simply deny any payment we had to do in regards to the above as they don't know any signature like that. I have a hard time believing that it would be a legally allowed signature, and probably even possible to be disputed to be my signature as it is nothing like my normal handwriting (I write all caps all the time to make it readable for everyone) or my signature.


N400 Timeline:

12/14/11 - Sending out N400 package

12/19/11 - Received by USCIS

12/21/11 - NOA date

12/22/11 - Check cashed

12/27/11 - Received NOA

02/06/12 - Received yellow letter (pre-interview case file review)

03/13/12 - Placed in line for interview scheduling (3 yr anniversary)

03/17/12 - Received interview letter

04/17/12 - Interview - No decision, application under further review

04/17/12 - Biometrics

04/25/12 - Placed in line for oath scheduling (so I'm approved yay!)

04/27/12 - Received oath ceremony date

05/09/12 - Oath ceremony!!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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On your certificate and passport, says to sign your name exactly as printed, should be in cursive, but doesn't state that. Have to sign it in ink, translated, you only get one shot at doing it right the first time. Should find a quiet spot and even practice before doing so or will be out 400 or 200 bucks if you screw up. You could try your "X:", but risk having it rejected. So don't sign while on the bottle, or with jerking kids and pets around.

Only two other places my wife had to sign her full name, first was before the judge and witnesses on our marriage certificate, she did it right, second was on her N-400, but I wasn't there. She did give me a hard time on her certificate wanting to sign her fancy artistic name. Just said go ahead, but if rejected, namely by the DOS, you will be out 400 bucks. Ha, I made her sign her name on a blank sheet of paper first, but I think she was just teasing me.

What I really find darn weird, they don't make you sign your certificate in front of an officer, just hand you your certificate and tell you go get the hell of there. Maybe they are hoping you will make an error so they can get another 400 bucks out of you.

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Random question here, kind of related to the subject but not really (lol)...

When I had my interview yesterday, they needed me to sign the documents on the N400 application in script writing (cursive). Now, I never ever signed my signature like that before (last time I wrote my name in cursive/script was when I was still in elementary). I still did it, as they requested me to do this, but here's the thing I am wondering about... since I don't use it as my signature, how is it possible they request us to write it like that while it is no signature of us? Is that even a legal signature if you make it not like your regular signature (my regular signature is an unreadable mark but that's why you always have to print your name next to it)?After all, they force you to make a signature like that, even though it is not like your regular signature. And, to make it a bit more related to this topic, is this also the way how you are required to sign your signature on the naturalization certificate?

I just cannot imagine this is right for them to do. For example, my wife and I just bought a car, we're in the process of buying a new house, and I signed it all with my regular signature (the unreadable thing). If the bank would see a (readable) script/cursive signature of me, they would simply deny any payment we had to do in regards to the above as they don't know any signature like that. I have a hard time believing that it would be a legally allowed signature, and probably even possible to be disputed to be my signature as it is nothing like my normal handwriting (I write all caps all the time to make it readable for everyone) or my signature.

They just want you to create a signature that they can later ask you to do again, if there's any doubt about your identity. They just want one definite signature that may be hard for others to copy exactly, so if you have any other interaction with them they can ask you to sign again and check to see that they match. It has nothing to do with it being a legal signature or not for other purposes.

Some people's "regular" signatures are insufficiently distinct and can be copied easily. Cursive signatures have a lot more distinctive information and are harder to fake. If you just printed your name or else drew a squiggly line that anyone could copy, there is potential for fraud on your part or on the part of someone else. Even if you are free to sign any way in your real life, the government can ask you to do it differently for immigration purposes.

It's not a big deal.

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I didn't even realize the certificate needs to be signed. Glad I found this thread. What if your photo doesn't have a signature? For me, they just used the photo I sent along with the application. Topic of signature never came up with the IO.

On my certificate I have my First Middle Last name as well as my SSN card. I always sign using First and Last though on on all documents including USCIS forms. I'm reading online now that you must sign with your middle name as well. That won't match anything I've ever signed in my life if I follow that rule. What would be consequence of signing it however I like?

Did you get an answer for this? I do not have any signatures on my photo.


Arrived Honolulu June 8, 2009
Got Married: June 17, 2009
Applied for SSN Card: June 19, 2009
Received SSN Card: June 25, 2009
AOS Timeline[
Sent AOS Packet: July 8, 2009
NOAs for AP and EAD: July 23, 2009
NOA for AOS: July 27, 2009
Biometrics date for my K2: Aug 22, 2009
Biometrics for me: Aug 20, 2009
Notice date for biometrics: July 31 and Aug 4, 2009
RFE received and AOS resumed: Sept 3, 2009
AP and EAD approved: October 22, 2009 (MY BIRTHDAY!)
AP approval notice received in the mail: Oct 25, 2009
EAD approval notice mailed: Oct 28, 2009

LIFTING CONDITIONS:
APPROVED FOR BOTH me and my daughter: 3/12/2012

NATURALIZATION:
Filed: 9/13/2012
I797C: 9/17/2012
Interview: 1/3/2013
Oath: 2/13/2013

IR5 (MOM)

NOA1: February 27, 2013

NOA2: November 19, 2013

NVC Received: Dec 19, 2013 but assigned an SDO case number

NVC changed case number to MNL: 1/23/2014

Paid AOS fee: 1/25/14

IV Invoice via email: 1/30/14

Paid IV: 1/30/14

CASE COMPLETE: 3/7/14

NVC Schedule: 4/10/2014

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i have signed my naturalization certificate using my full name and short signature on top of it.. sent it to department of state for my passport application which i had received last month and never had any problems.. just sign using your full name and call it a day... i doubt anybody will give you a hard time just because you signed your certificate wrong..


LPR 2007

CITIZENSHIP 2012

N-400 filed based marriage to usc = april ??

biometrics = june 21

interview = august 2

oath taking = august 29

done..

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Did you get an answer for this? I do not have any signatures on my photo.

My wife's did not have a signature on the photo. According to the form it is because she changed her name and the name changes have the picture stuck on the form instead of imprinted with a signature.

The instructions say to sign the edge of the photo and the signature line exactly the same way.

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My wife's did not have a signature on the photo. According to the form it is because she changed her name and the name changes have the picture stuck on the form instead of imprinted with a signature.

The instructions say to sign the edge of the photo and the signature line exactly the same way.

Didnt get no instructions. So d o I need to sign my picture as well? I also changed my name


Arrived Honolulu June 8, 2009
Got Married: June 17, 2009
Applied for SSN Card: June 19, 2009
Received SSN Card: June 25, 2009
AOS Timeline[
Sent AOS Packet: July 8, 2009
NOAs for AP and EAD: July 23, 2009
NOA for AOS: July 27, 2009
Biometrics date for my K2: Aug 22, 2009
Biometrics for me: Aug 20, 2009
Notice date for biometrics: July 31 and Aug 4, 2009
RFE received and AOS resumed: Sept 3, 2009
AP and EAD approved: October 22, 2009 (MY BIRTHDAY!)
AP approval notice received in the mail: Oct 25, 2009
EAD approval notice mailed: Oct 28, 2009

LIFTING CONDITIONS:
APPROVED FOR BOTH me and my daughter: 3/12/2012

NATURALIZATION:
Filed: 9/13/2012
I797C: 9/17/2012
Interview: 1/3/2013
Oath: 2/13/2013

IR5 (MOM)

NOA1: February 27, 2013

NOA2: November 19, 2013

NVC Received: Dec 19, 2013 but assigned an SDO case number

NVC changed case number to MNL: 1/23/2014

Paid AOS fee: 1/25/14

IV Invoice via email: 1/30/14

Paid IV: 1/30/14

CASE COMPLETE: 3/7/14

NVC Schedule: 4/10/2014

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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"I certify the description given is true and the photograph hereto is a likeness of me."

_______________________________________________________________________

(Complete and true signature of holder)

Below is your name like:

JOHN ADAMS SMITH

You write your name exactly using the same precise letters on that line above like

John Adams Smith

You do not write, John Smith, John A Smith, JA Smith, these are not complete like your printed name is already pre-typed on your certificate.

The only writing you do on your certificate is that complete signature on that line, you do NOT write anywhere else on your certificate.

Is this clear enough?

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