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We just got an RFE for vaccines. When Colin had his medical done in London they asked if he had chicken pox when he was young and he did so they didn't give him the vaccine. They marked on his medical that it wasn't "age appropriate". Now we get an RFE stating that he needs the vaccine. Why is he getting a vaccine if he already had chicken pox when he was young? Does this make any sense? Am I missing something?

Thanks


Consulate.............London

I-129F sent...........10/22/2010

I-129F NOA1........10/27/2010

I-129F NOA2.........04/06/2011 (161 days)

Interview date.........6/27/2011

Interview result.......Approved!!!

Visa rec....................7/11/11

POE .........................8/5/111

Marriage..................9/10/11 (finally <3)

AOS

Sent.................9/29/2011

NOA1...............10/5/2011

Biometrics.......12/7/2011

Transferred to CSC...........12/15/2011

RFE :( ...................3/16/2012

Approved/Card Production.......4/11/2012

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The doctor should have marked "varicella history" not "age inappropriate." He doesn't need the vaccine but he needs a Civil Surgeon to fill out the supplement and correctly sign off that Colin has complied with the vaccination requirements. The doctor in London did it wrong, because varicella is age appropriate if he had no history of the disease.

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AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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The doctor should have marked "varicella history" not "age inappropriate." He doesn't need the vaccine but he needs a Civil Surgeon to fill out the supplement and correctly sign off that Colin has complied with the vaccination requirements. The doctor in London did it wrong, because varicella is age appropriate if he had no history of the disease.

Thanks for the response. So would you suggest we go to a civil surgeon here and have him/her fill out the form again and resubmit it? Hopefully that won't cost us a fortune. It does state on the RFE that he does not need another medical. I'm assuming that means we were lucky and the package found it's way?

Again... thank you for all your kind responses and help. It's much appreciated and has put my mind at ease several times.


Consulate.............London

I-129F sent...........10/22/2010

I-129F NOA1........10/27/2010

I-129F NOA2.........04/06/2011 (161 days)

Interview date.........6/27/2011

Interview result.......Approved!!!

Visa rec....................7/11/11

POE .........................8/5/111

Marriage..................9/10/11 (finally <3)

AOS

Sent.................9/29/2011

NOA1...............10/5/2011

Biometrics.......12/7/2011

Transferred to CSC...........12/15/2011

RFE :( ...................3/16/2012

Approved/Card Production.......4/11/2012

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You're RFE sounds a little bit similar to ours. Our vaccines were ok, but the CS didn't have my husband sign in front of him like he was supposed to, so we had to go back.

Does your RFE say something like "Submit page 1 and 5 of form 693?" If so, you just have to go to the Civil Surgeon and have your husband fill out the top part of page 1 with his biographical information and the CS sign and put his information in the bottom part, and both need to sign. I am not sure if part two needs to be filled out if they don't do a medical exam, stating no class A or B conditions (our CS did not fill this out...) and then the CS will just transcribe about the VH on page 5. For the transcription, if he doesn't need any shots, it should be cheap. Our CS charged around $35 I think.


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October 1, 2010: I-129F sent

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April 18, 2011: RFE e-mail

April 20, 2011: RFE hardcopy received

April 20, 2011: RFE response sent to VSC

May 2, 2011: E-mail confirming VSC has received RFE response

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12-2-2011 - Case transferred to CSC

1-17-2012 - EAD/AP Card Production Ordered

1-25-2012 - EAD/AP card received in mail

3-7-2012 - RFE issued

3-19-2012 - RFE response received by CSC

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Thanks for the response. So would you suggest we go to a civil surgeon here and have him/her fill out the form again and resubmit it? Hopefully that won't cost us a fortune. It does state on the RFE that he does not need another medical. I'm assuming that means we were lucky and the package found it's way?

Again... thank you for all your kind responses and help. It's much appreciated and has put my mind at ease several times.

Yes, he just needs the "vaccination transcription" done, not the complete medical. It should be $25-$50. Sometimes doctors don't realize they can do this (K-1 is actually probably the least of what they see) so call around and ask for just vaccination transcription and see who knows what you are talking about. There are many threads about this if you search. Also one called "Civil Surgeons who don't rip you off" that recommends people who will do the transcription.


AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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Thanks so much!

I just got off the phone with a CS who insisted that Colin need the entire medical done again, x-ray, bloodwork, everything. UGH!! They said they cannot take "our word" that it was done in London.

Our form says:

The following age appropriate vaccinations are required:

Varicella

New Form I-693: The applicant is required to submit a new Form I-693, Report of Medical Examination and Vaccination Record, that is properly completed and signed. You do not need another medical examination, but you will need to complete the vaccination section of the form I-693. The form must be completed by a physician who on the list of Civil Surgeons approved by the USCIS..........

I explained several times what the form said the to lady on the phone but she insisted that he need an entire new medical done. Was she correct or just trying to get a lot of money out of us? She quoted us $450.00 for the entire medical.

Thanks again


Consulate.............London

I-129F sent...........10/22/2010

I-129F NOA1........10/27/2010

I-129F NOA2.........04/06/2011 (161 days)

Interview date.........6/27/2011

Interview result.......Approved!!!

Visa rec....................7/11/11

POE .........................8/5/111

Marriage..................9/10/11 (finally <3)

AOS

Sent.................9/29/2011

NOA1...............10/5/2011

Biometrics.......12/7/2011

Transferred to CSC...........12/15/2011

RFE :( ...................3/16/2012

Approved/Card Production.......4/11/2012

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I said you might need to call around. She was wrong, but she is not your servant so you need to call someone else. Check out the thread I mentioned.


AOS for my husband
8/17/10: INTERVIEW DAY (day 123) APPROVED!!

ROC:
5/23/12: Sent out package
2/06/13: APPROVED!

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Hello

We just got an RFE for vaccines. When Colin had his medical done in London they asked if he had chicken pox when he was young and he did so they didn't give him the vaccine. They marked on his medical that it wasn't "age appropriate". Now we get an RFE stating that he needs the vaccine. Why is he getting a vaccine if he already had chicken pox when he was young? Does this make any sense? Am I missing something?

Thanks

Everything replied to you so far is correct, but out of curiousity look at your DS-3025. Is there no VH written in the sixth column beside Varicella? The Knightsbridge people don't usually make that mistake. If they left that off, then the RFE is valid because there is no way to waive the varicella shot unless Knightsbridge signed off that he had "varicella history" indicated by VH written in that column.


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AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

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Everything replied to you so far is correct, but out of curiousity look at your DS-3025. Is there no VH written in the sixth column beside Varicella? The Knightsbridge people don't usually make that mistake. If they left that off, then the RFE is valid because there is no way to waive the varicella shot unless Knightsbridge signed off that he had "varicella history" indicated by VH written in that column.

The line for Varicella is completely blank all the way across. Ugh. Who knew that a simple check mark or two letters (VH) being omitted could cause such problems.

I've got some more numbers for CS's to call and see if we can avoid having the entire medical redone.

Thanks so much


Consulate.............London

I-129F sent...........10/22/2010

I-129F NOA1........10/27/2010

I-129F NOA2.........04/06/2011 (161 days)

Interview date.........6/27/2011

Interview result.......Approved!!!

Visa rec....................7/11/11

POE .........................8/5/111

Marriage..................9/10/11 (finally <3)

AOS

Sent.................9/29/2011

NOA1...............10/5/2011

Biometrics.......12/7/2011

Transferred to CSC...........12/15/2011

RFE :( ...................3/16/2012

Approved/Card Production.......4/11/2012

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The line for Varicella is completely blank all the way across. Ugh. Who knew that a simple check mark or two letters (VH) being omitted could cause such problems.

I've got some more numbers for CS's to call and see if we can avoid having the entire medical redone.

Thanks so much

Just a side note. Flu shots are required between Oct 1 and Mar 31. A real stickler of a CS might say you need a flu shot this week. If you wait until next week, he can tick off "not flu season" and the shot is waived.


England.gifENGLAND ---

K-1 Timeline 4 months, 19 days 03-10-08 VSC to 7-29-08 Interview London

10-05-08 Married

AOS Timeline 5 months, 14 days 10-9-08 to 3-23-09 No interview

Removing Conditions Timeline 5 months, 20 days12-27-10 to 06-10-11 No interview

Citizenship Timeline 3 months, 26 days 12-31-11 Dallas to 4-26-12 Interview Houston

05-16-12 Oath ceremony

The journey from Fiancé to US citizenship:

4 years, 2 months, 6 days

243 pages of forms/documents submitted

No RFEs

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Just a side note. Flu shots are required between Oct 1 and Mar 31. A real stickler of a CS might say you need a flu shot this week. If you wait until next week, he can tick off "not flu season" and the shot is waived.

Yep... you are right. When we went for the medical today they said he had to get a flu shot. They also made him get a tetanus shot because they didn't have a copy of his records from when he was a child. Honestly, we just wanted it done so we didn't argue too much. We got the medical done, now we are having issues with a change of address that apparently they didn't record.


Consulate.............London

I-129F sent...........10/22/2010

I-129F NOA1........10/27/2010

I-129F NOA2.........04/06/2011 (161 days)

Interview date.........6/27/2011

Interview result.......Approved!!!

Visa rec....................7/11/11

POE .........................8/5/111

Marriage..................9/10/11 (finally <3)

AOS

Sent.................9/29/2011

NOA1...............10/5/2011

Biometrics.......12/7/2011

Transferred to CSC...........12/15/2011

RFE :( ...................3/16/2012

Approved/Card Production.......4/11/2012

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Yep... you are right. When we went for the medical today they said he had to get a flu shot. They also made him get a tetanus shot because they didn't have a copy of his records from when he was a child. Honestly, we just wanted it done so we didn't argue too much. We got the medical done, now we are having issues with a change of address that apparently they didn't record.

This is interesting because we were there just there hours ago and nothing was mentioned about a flu shot.

Are you sure a Flu shot is required?

The reason I ask is because we went straight from the CS to mail in the forms.

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This is interesting because we were there just there hours ago and nothing was mentioned about a flu shot.

Are you sure a Flu shot is required?

The reason I ask is because we went straight from the CS to mail in the forms.

They told us that if we had come on April 1st we wouldn't have needed one but they would not sign our paperwork until we went to the drugstore and got a shot, then came back with the proof.


Consulate.............London

I-129F sent...........10/22/2010

I-129F NOA1........10/27/2010

I-129F NOA2.........04/06/2011 (161 days)

Interview date.........6/27/2011

Interview result.......Approved!!!

Visa rec....................7/11/11

POE .........................8/5/111

Marriage..................9/10/11 (finally <3)

AOS

Sent.................9/29/2011

NOA1...............10/5/2011

Biometrics.......12/7/2011

Transferred to CSC...........12/15/2011

RFE :( ...................3/16/2012

Approved/Card Production.......4/11/2012

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Thanks so much!

I just got off the phone with a CS who insisted that Colin need the entire medical done again, x-ray, bloodwork, everything. UGH!! They said they cannot take "our word" that it was done in London.

Our form says:

The following age appropriate vaccinations are required:

Varicella

New Form I-693: The applicant is required to submit a new Form I-693, Report of Medical Examination and Vaccination Record, that is properly completed and signed. You do not need another medical examination, but you will need to complete the vaccination section of the form I-693. The form must be completed by a physician who on the list of Civil Surgeons approved by the USCIS..........

I explained several times what the form said the to lady on the phone but she insisted that he need an entire new medical done. Was she correct or just trying to get a lot of money out of us? She quoted us $450.00 for the entire medical.

Thanks again

Had EXACTLY the same situation as you! After ringing around and getting quotes from $320 to $500, it became clear that most of these Civil Surgeon's receptionists are completely ignorant of the K-1 differences. Eventually, on call number seven (!) I found someone with a brain who charges $40 to correctly transcribe my vaccinations. BTW, my problem was that I'd only had 2 MMR's - they didn't want to count the one I had as a kid. I swear they make some of these rules up as they go along!

Stiil, they say that nothing that's really worth having is easily come by, and USCIS seem to be reminding me of it regularly.

Good luck with the Civil Surgeon - don't cave in and pay big bucks!!


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Our K-1 Journey so far.....

I-129F Sent: Feb-23-2011

NOA1: Mar-03-2011

NOA2: Jun 17-2011

Packet 3 Received: Jul-15-2011

Interview in London: Oct-19-2011 (Approved!)

Entry to USA: Oct-31-2011

Wedding: Dec-2-2011

AOS Filed: Jan-19-2011 (with EAD and AP)

RFE: Feb-09-2012 (Missing Co-Sponsor's proof of US citizenship - our fault!)

Transfered to CSC: Feb-27-2012

EAD and AP "lost" by USCIS Mar-12-2012 (Grrrr!.)

EAD and AP re-filed Mar-13-2012, new Receipt Numbers issued Mar-16-2012

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Had EXACTLY the same situation as you! After ringing around and getting quotes from $320 to $500, it became clear that most of these Civil Surgeon's receptionists are completely ignorant of the K-1 differences. Eventually, on call number seven (!) I found someone with a brain who charges $40 to correctly transcribe my vaccinations. BTW, my problem was that I'd only had 2 MMR's - they didn't want to count the one I had as a kid. I swear they make some of these rules up as they go along!

Stiil, they say that nothing that's really worth having is easily come by, and USCIS seem to be reminding me of it regularly.

Good luck with the Civil Surgeon - don't cave in and pay big bucks!!

Thanks for this info!

I notice that your local office is Orlando, same as mine.

If we run into problems I'll be on to you about the Civil Surgeon you used.

:thumbs:


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08/05/2011 I-129F sent
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08/12/2011 Cheque cashed by USCIS
08/16/2011 NOA1 Hard Copy recieved
12/05/2011 NOA2 Email recieved: Approved
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01/10/2012 Medical
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02/06/2012 Embassy Received
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03/01/2012 Packet 4 Received
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Your interview took 215 days from your I-129F NOA1 date.

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05/03/2012 Cheque cashed by USCIS
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06/01/2012 Biometrics appointment
07/06/2012 EAD+AP Card Production (68 days)
07/14/2012 EAD+AP Card Received

04/18/2013 Filed for EAD+AP renewal
04/19/2013 Contacted Congressman
04/19/2013 RFE for form I-693
05/06/2013 RFE response under review
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