Stop the dead from voting

[Pooky 3,365]

To many, one disenfranchised voter is one too many. Of those, we have potentially a quarter million. Not a tough call.

So, taking a little time to obtain a free voter ID is a bigger burden than ensuring a vote is legally cast?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

So, taking a little time to obtain a free voter ID is a bigger burden than ensuring a vote is legally cast?

The dead can still vote under these laws. Just not in person on election day. These laws do not address the issue of voter fraud or prevent any of it to occur going forward. Why? Well, firstly because there is no issue to be addressed and secondly because that was never the purpose of these laws to begin with.

[Pooky 3,365]

The dead can still vote under these laws. Just not in person on election day. These laws do not address the issue of voter fraud or prevent any of it to occur going forward. Why? Well, firstly because there is no issue to be addressed and secondly because that was never the purpose of these laws to begin with.

Well, the OP proves you're stuck in the land of delusion there. Nice try, but fail nonetheless.

[Robby999 1,024]

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

My great-grandmother, who turned 100 last year God bless her, recently had to get a photo ID in Ohio.

It was a real pain as she has never had a driver's license or any photo ID before. We went to the license bureau with her birth certificate, social security card, bank statement and several other pieces of identification - but it was not enough. They required a marriage certificate that shows her married name and her maiden name. And we could not find one anywhere.

So we had to drive up to the little town where she was born and raised and married, and spend a few hours at the Courthouse while the clerk looked for it. He looked and looked and looked. He finally found their names listed in the old record book, but there was no document of a license. Eventually, he dug up the actual record and we learned that they married by banns - this was a custom in that time where the priest would publicly announce the upcoming marriage a few weeks in advance. This was called "publishing the banns." And then, turns out the priest did not send in his records until the next year.

But we finally got a copy of what was needed, and now she has her ID. Some older people might have difficulty going through all that.

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So, taking a little time to obtain a free voter ID is a bigger burden than ensuring a vote is legally cast?

Yeah... not so much a "little time". My mom is 78 her DL expires in a few months right before the November Election. Is it easier to take her to

the Voting booth and have her vote than take a 1/2 day off work to drag her into a DMV for a "free picture ID" which is not FREE it costs $10-15 bucks for a State ID. Its stupid when there is no question of who she is, she is a long time registered Voter and in fact was an election judge back in the day and is well known to the poll workers.

Yes its a big friggen hassle. If you don't think so I encourage you to volunteer to go pick up elderly people who have health issues and take them out to get them picture ID's. If you feel so strongly about it put your muscle where your mouth is. I love proposals that cause some one else a pain in their #######.

There is no mention of the lost productivity to the segment of the population who will be burdened by this crazy proposal.

There is also a system in place for this .. called Poll Judges. If they see someone roll in a casket and have a dead

person pull the lever.. they can always challenge that

Another "small government republican" initiative that will cost the country untold aggravation and $.. I thought you guys were for strict adherence to constitutional principles.. ? Where does it say you need a photo ID to vote? Did the founders fathers have photo ID's?

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[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Well, the OP proves you're stuck in the land of delusion there. Nice try, but fail nonetheless.

The OP does no such thing. Not even close. It is a fail all on it's own.

[Pooky 3,365]

Yeah... not so much a "little time". My mom is 78 her DL expires in a few months right before the November Election. Is it easier to take her to

the Voting booth and have her vote than take a 1/2 day off work to drag her into a DMV for a "free picture ID" when there is no question of who she is, she is a long time registered Voter and in fact was an election judge back in the day and is well known to the poll workers. Yes its a big friggen hassle. If you don't think so I encourage you to volunteer to go pick up elderly people who have health issues and take them out to get them

picture ID's. If you feel so strongly about it put your muscle where your mouth is.

It is never too much trouble to do the right thing. Never has been. My father made that point to me a long time ago.

[Pooky 3,365]

The OP does no such thing. Not even close. It is a fail all on it's own.

So you are arguing that the findings of the SC House Judiciary Sub-Committee don't reveal instances of voter fraud?

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[Robby999 1,024]

[Bad_Daddy 2,209]

Dead voters and the Dream Act. The libs love that stuff.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Dead voters and the Dream Act. The libs love that stuff.

Evidently, so does Romney and Gingrich.

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[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

So you are arguing that the findings of the SC House Judiciary Sub-Committee don't reveal instances of voter fraud?

Instances, perhaps. A pattern? No. An issue calling for a measure that requires a quarter million eligible voters to jump through hoops to exercise their constitutional right to vote? Not even close. Then again, one needs to produce state ID only to vote in person. There are other ways to vote. Everyone knows that. Even the folks on said sub-committee. They cite the SCOTUS ruling in favor of voter ID laws. In that decision, the SCOTUS found that not a single case of voter fraud was actually ever documented in the state in question (IN). Not one.

The only kind of voter fraud that SEA 483 addresses is in-person voter impersonation at polling places. The record contains no evidence of any such fraud actually occurring in Indiana at any time in its history.

Edited January 24, 2012 by Mr. Big Dog

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

That has changed recently -- One for the left, and one for the right:

Indiana Democratic Party Head Resigns as Fraud Probe Heats Up

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/12/12/indiana-democratic-party-head-resigns-as-fraud-probe-heats-up/#ixzz1kLTuQIgB

Indiana Sec. of State Found Guilty of Voter Fraud In State With Nation’s Worst Voter ID Law

http://wepartypatriots.com/wp/2011/12/24/indiana-sec-of-state-found-guilty-of-voter-fraud-in-state-with-one-of-the-nations-worst-voter-id-laws/

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[slim 1,514]

But we finally got a copy of what was needed, and now she has her ID. Some older people might have difficulty going through all that.

Kind of like the difficulty our forefathers had in setting up the country? Perhaps it's similar to the difficulty of our service members who fought to secure the blessings of liberty?

The fact of the matter is there is no undue burden placed on anyone to provide photo ID at the polls. None. It's not like grandma has to miss work to go track down her marriage license.

Evidently, so does Romney and Gingrich.

Yet another reason not to vote for those clowns.