western union receipts

[swordfish2011 0]

western union receipts? exclude them out of application or include them? did anyone get in conflicts with these? do they even ask for proof of financial support?

[Adriene H 89]

western union receipts? exclude them out of application or include them? did anyone get in conflicts with these? do they even ask for proof of financial support?

What are the receipts for?

Eventually, you will to complete an Affidavit of Support

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

western union receipts? exclude them out of application or include them? did anyone get in conflicts with these? do they even ask for proof of financial support?

Hi! You don't have a timeline - please fill out a timeline! The appraoch would be a little different depending on if this is a K-1 or a CR-1/IR-1.

Me personally I did not send in any type of financial support docs with my I-130. I did take them to the final interview but she was never asked for any additional evidence. I would divide you evidence into three sections: A timeline of your relationship with detail timeline from first meeting to submitting of your I-130/I-129f - bullet point all the major milestones such as first physical meeting, any subsequent meetings, meeting the family, major events, etc.. The timeline should be accompanied by photos (I would not have separate photos - put them into the timeline doc) I would also have copies of supporting documents for the timeline such as boarding passes.. Second is proof of communication: timeline major communication such as email, phone, texting, etc. I did not print anything out I did have a header and one page per month for each type of communication. I sent these in with the original I-130/I-129f. Finally is financial support... again a one page timeline synopsis of support is the most I would turn in with the original petition - I would take an updated synopsis with the original receipts (including any WU payments) to the interview with my updated relationship evidence though they probably will not ask for it.

[NoneYa 73]

The previous post of bullet points of the major events make good sense. As far as western union receipts, I think that would raise a red flag if you didn't send them. Every man I have spoken to has sent money to his fiancee.. so if you had no reciepts they would view it as

1.) You don't care enough for her

2.) You are lying about sending her money.

Neither of those assumptions are good when the petitioner makes 25-50 times more annually than the beneficiary. Some money transfers are expected.

[baron555 934]

western union receipts? exclude them out of application or include them? did anyone get in conflicts with these? do they even ask for proof of financial support?

If you are sending regular money to support them financially when they are there and you are here.....how do you explain that you are not just buying a spouse?

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Not speculating but in actual experience related here over and over...

reciepts of sending money for a FIANCEE (not spouse) have usually TWO responses

1. None

2. Bad

In most consulates, low fraud, no one cares. It is not in itself proof of a relationship. In some consultes it is considered a RED FLAG of paying for a fiancee. Best not to do it. If they ask your fiacee if you send money (I doubt it) then just answer honestly. Otherwise it is a non-issue.

I DID send some money for immigration related expenses (medical exams, shipping costs, veterinary costs, train tickets to Kiev for Alla and the boys, etc.) I DID have receipts at the interview, they never showed any interest in looking at them and asked no questions about it.

I would say to concentrate on other things

And what step are you at? Fr the petition you do not need ANY of this, nor any financial information, nor any proof of relationship. If you are doing the petition you do not need any such thing

[OnMyWayID 1,489]

most likely correct.. I do no remember anyone mentioning financial support ever having any sway at the interview... It could come into play if they feel there is possible fraud on the USC side (getting paid to help suppyl a GC).. Much more rare.

Edited December 14, 2011 by OnMyWayID

[NoneYa 73]

Be skeptical of all advice from the forum and only believe half of what people say. I have noticed people who I think are smart say something completely stupid so just be aware that nobody has perfect advice, especially from other countries. This is a hotly debated topic and only the Embassy has the answer. I would recommend searching for "Wester Union" on this forum and use your own research and not someone elses because it is your butt that is on the line. Here is what someone else said that has obviously gone through this process in the Philippines:

My experience is more of the Filipino screener questioning me of not having any receipts or packages from my fiancee.

This is my personal opinion, the filipino screeners expect all of the filipina fiancee get money from american fiancee. And its very unusual for them to encounter a filipina not asking money from USC.

My fiancee, now hubby, could afford to send me money but its a personal choice not to get support from him.

My comments on her statement : Although, I disagree that the Filipina should be asking for money... the USC often offers it to help. It's just common.

Also, I ask this question only in the Mexico area because all Embassies have different requiremtns.

Here is the thread where that came from.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/295286-western-union-receipts/page__st__15

Edited December 14, 2011 by NoneYa

[TBoneTX 47,101]

Be skeptical of all advice from the forum and only believe half of what people say. I have noticed people who I think are smart say something completely stupid so just be aware that nobody has perfect advice, especially from other countries. This is a hotly debated topic and only the Embassy has the answer.

For probably any embassy except Manila, the information in your post #4 is so wrong that it would be among the most misguided advice on VisaJourney for fiance(e) petitioners. Gary (post #6) knows what he's talking about. When Pushbrk comes along, you'll hear it again: exclude all money-transfer receipts. Edited December 15, 2011 by TBoneTX

[jui_uy 1]

If you are sending regular money to support them financially when they are there and you are here.....how do you explain that you are not just buying a spouse?

That is fine i guess if you already have a child with your fiance, to which regular allotments and support is needed.

[at long last 58]

As our case is taking forever we are trying to find out all the possible reasons for the delay. In reading this thread it has made me a tad concerned. Even before we became engaged we had talked about how our relationship would go. I was at that time fine with spending my summers down there and winters here. When he bought the house we had already discussed doing a remodel when I sold my home here. I live in an apartment now. I used my half of the sale of the home here and financed the remodel and enclosed the copies of the checks used to do the remodel.

Am I now correct in my findings that this may have screwed us in some way?

Terri

[Tim/Mav 305]

Not speculating but in actual experience related here over and over...

reciepts of sending money for a FIANCEE (not spouse) have usually TWO responses

1. None

2. Bad

In most consulates, low fraud, no one cares. It is not in itself proof of a relationship. In some consultes it is considered a RED FLAG of paying for a fiancee. Best not to do it. If they ask your fiacee if you send money (I doubt it) then just answer honestly. Otherwise it is a non-issue.

I DID send some money for immigration related expenses (medical exams, shipping costs, veterinary costs, train tickets to Kiev for Alla and the boys, etc.) I DID have receipts at the interview, they never showed any interest in looking at them and asked no questions about it.

I would say to concentrate on other things

And what step are you at? Fr the petition you do not need ANY of this, nor any financial information, nor any proof of relationship. If you are doing the petition you do not need any such thing

Oh Please. There is nothing wrong with sending a Money Gram of any sort for a Birthday, Holiday or JUST BECAUSE. Red Flag. ? Help me with that. Its not a FLAG. Also, the Petitioners Income and Financial Status is Only what Counts, Not the beneficaiaries so if the Petitioner in either K-1 or CR-1 wants to send money it shows good intent. Your Miles apart and it Cheaper to send money that it is to ship a gift. REMEMBER, Western Union Reciepts are dated and just specify the Occassion. Western Union does not mean a Welfare Check It is a Gift and can be noted.

[Tim/Mav 305]

Oh Please. There is nothing wrong with sending a Money Gram of any sort for a Birthday, Holiday or JUST BECAUSE. Red Flag. ? Help me with that. Its not a FLAG. Also, the Petitioners Income and Financial Status is Only what Counts, Not the beneficaiaries so if the Petitioner in either K-1 or CR-1 wants to send money it shows good intent. Your Miles apart and it Cheaper to send money that it is to ship a gift. REMEMBER, Western Union Reciepts are dated and just specify the Occassion. Western Union does not mean a Welfare Check It is a Gift and can be noted.

Sorry Honey. I'm not sending you ####! Thats a Red Flag

[GringoD 33]

this really is a ridiculous thread (even more than most, here on VJ)

If you sent a few - 2 or 3 - western unions for small change - $100 usd, more or less - then include it. No big deal, as long as you have PLENTY of OTHER EVIDENCE.

If you sent her BUNCHES OF $$$ VIA Western Union... it's suspect, probably.

If you never sent anything.... so what? A Non-Issue.

Edited December 15, 2011 by GringoD

[Tim/Mav 305]

That is fine i guess if you already have a child with your fiance, to which regular allotments and support is needed.

That is an Assumption since there is No Timeline established. If true, there is a child involved showing Support is a plus. Thus Western Union Payments to Support the Child or Spouse.

Most Countries accept International Child Support Laws but are rarely enforced due to the Costs to the Immigrant not filing or can't afford too.

Tell me you never sent your loved one a Western Union.