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My fiancee got white slipped in August. Has anyone had this experience? Has anyone cancelled their K1 and got married and then filed a K3? Your help would be greatly appreciated.


met online November 18, 2004 (my mother's birthday)

first visit February 7, 2005

filed I-129F 3/2005

receipt confirmed 4/29/05

USCIS approval 12/5/05

received P3 3/2006

received P4 6/2006

interview 8/28/06

interview failed with white slip

married November 6, 2006

fourth visit March 2007

filed I-130 for CR1 July 12, 2007

NOA1 received July 26, 2007

fifth visit October 28, 2007

1st wedding anniversary November 6, 2007

NOA2 received March 8, 2008

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Explain 'white slipped'.


8-30-05 Met David at a restaurant in Germany

3-28-06 David 'officially' proposed

4-26-06 I-129F mailed

9-25-06 Interview: APPROVED!

10-16-06 Flt to US, POE Detroit

11-5-06 Married

7-2-07 Green card received

9-12-08 Filed for divorce

12-5-08 Court hearing - divorce final

A great marriage is not when the "perfect couple" comes together.

It is when an imperfect couple learns to enjoy their differences.

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Explain 'white slipped'.

She got an outright denial and GUZ said they were sending the petition back to the US and they are recommending revocation.


met online November 18, 2004 (my mother's birthday)

first visit February 7, 2005

filed I-129F 3/2005

receipt confirmed 4/29/05

USCIS approval 12/5/05

received P3 3/2006

received P4 6/2006

interview 8/28/06

interview failed with white slip

married November 6, 2006

fourth visit March 2007

filed I-130 for CR1 July 12, 2007

NOA1 received July 26, 2007

fifth visit October 28, 2007

1st wedding anniversary November 6, 2007

NOA2 received March 8, 2008

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You don't have your timeline set up. At what stage in the process did the denial come? Was it post interview?

Very sorry regardless, but it would be helpful to know at what point in the process your fiance visa was denied.


B and J K-1 story

  • April 2004 met online
  • July 16, 2006 Met in person on her birthday in United Arab Emirates
  • August 4, 2006 sent certified mail I-129F packet Neb SC
  • August 9, 2006 NOA1
  • August 21, 2006 received NOA1 in mail
  • October 4, 5, 7, 13 & 17 2006 Touches! 50 day address change... Yes Judith is beautiful, quit staring at her passport photo and approve us!!! Shaming works! LOL
  • October 13, 2006 NOA2! November 2, 2006 NOA2? Huh? NVC already processed and sent us on to Abu Dhabi Consulate!
  • February 12, 2007 Abu Dhabi Interview SUCCESS!!! February 14 Visa in hand!
  • March 6, 2007 she is here!
  • MARCH 14, 2007 WE ARE MARRIED!!!
  • May 5, 2007 Sent AOS/EAD packet
  • May 11, 2007 NOA1 AOS/EAD
  • June 7, 2007 Biometrics appointment
  • June 8, 2007 first post biometrics touch, June 11, next touch...
  • August 1, 2007 AOS Interview! APPROVED!! EAD APPROVED TOO...
  • August 6, 2007 EAD card and Welcome Letter received!
  • August 13, 2007 GREEN CARD received!!! 375 days since mailing the I-129F!

    Remove Conditions:

  • May 1, 2009 first day to file
  • May 9, 2009 mailed I-751 to USCIS CS

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You don't have your timeline set up. At what stage in the process did the denial come? Was it post interview?

Very sorry regardless, but it would be helpful to know at what point in the process your fiance visa was denied.

Yes I do not have a timeline as of yet. I just joined. The denial came at the interview on August 28, 2006. I has initially started the K1 process in April, 2005. I will get my timeline on soon. Thanks for asking. I need all the help I can get as my fiancee and I will marry soon. We are wanting a child very much as she is 38 and doesn't have much time left for us to have a child. Can't wait on the US gvt.


met online November 18, 2004 (my mother's birthday)

first visit February 7, 2005

filed I-129F 3/2005

receipt confirmed 4/29/05

USCIS approval 12/5/05

received P3 3/2006

received P4 6/2006

interview 8/28/06

interview failed with white slip

married November 6, 2006

fourth visit March 2007

filed I-130 for CR1 July 12, 2007

NOA1 received July 26, 2007

fifth visit October 28, 2007

1st wedding anniversary November 6, 2007

NOA2 received March 8, 2008

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You don't have your timeline set up. At what stage in the process did the denial come? Was it post interview?

Very sorry regardless, but it would be helpful to know at what point in the process your fiance visa was denied.

Yes I do not have a timeline as of yet. I just joined. The denial came at the interview on August 28, 2006. I has initially started the K1 process in April, 2005. I will get my timeline on soon. Thanks for asking. I need all the help I can get as my fiancee and I will marry soon. We are wanting a child very much as she is 38 and doesn't have much time left for us to have a child. Can't wait on the US gvt.

What was the reason for the denial? We really need more info if you expect some help....


8-30-05 Met David at a restaurant in Germany

3-28-06 David 'officially' proposed

4-26-06 I-129F mailed

9-25-06 Interview: APPROVED!

10-16-06 Flt to US, POE Detroit

11-5-06 Married

7-2-07 Green card received

9-12-08 Filed for divorce

12-5-08 Court hearing - divorce final

A great marriage is not when the "perfect couple" comes together.

It is when an imperfect couple learns to enjoy their differences.

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You don't have your timeline set up. At what stage in the process did the denial come? Was it post interview?

Very sorry regardless, but it would be helpful to know at what point in the process your fiance visa was denied.

Yes I do not have a timeline as of yet. I just joined. The denial came at the interview on August 28, 2006. I has initially started the K1 process in April, 2005. I will get my timeline on soon. Thanks for asking. I need all the help I can get as my fiancee and I will marry soon. We are wanting a child very much as she is 38 and doesn't have much time left for us to have a child. Can't wait on the US gvt.

What was the reason for the denial? We really need more info if you expect some help....

The paper that was given to her said that according to INA 5(A), we do not have a bona-fide relationship. This couldn't be further from the truth. She had tons of evidence with her but they did not want to see it.

I also know that just having 5(A) on the paper is incomplete. but this is what it said.


met online November 18, 2004 (my mother's birthday)

first visit February 7, 2005

filed I-129F 3/2005

receipt confirmed 4/29/05

USCIS approval 12/5/05

received P3 3/2006

received P4 6/2006

interview 8/28/06

interview failed with white slip

married November 6, 2006

fourth visit March 2007

filed I-130 for CR1 July 12, 2007

NOA1 received July 26, 2007

fifth visit October 28, 2007

1st wedding anniversary November 6, 2007

NOA2 received March 8, 2008

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Try posting here in this forum too. There are some super knowledgeable people there.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showforum=113


August-December 2004---------Together my baby.

June 2005-----------Together again.

November 2005-----Together again.

March 2006---------Together again.

July 2006------------Together again.

October-November 2006-------Together again.

April 28, 2006--------NOA1.

May 2006-------------IMBRA.

May 27, 2006--------Touched.

June 1, 2006---------Touched.

June 2, 2006---------Touched.

June 3, 2006---------Touched.

June 14, 2006-------Touched.

June 15, 2006-------Touched.

June 16, 2006-------Touched.

June 17, 2006-------Touched.

July 3, 2006---------Touched.

July 4, 2006---------Touched.

July 5, 2006---------Touched.

July 18, 2006--------Touched.

July 22, 2006--------Received IMBRA RFE.

July 24, 2006--------RFE returned Next Day Air to CSC.

July 25, 2006--------CSC receives RFE.

August 1, 2006------Touched 3 times.

August 1, 2006------Preliminary processing completed email.

August 2, 2006------Touched.

August 3, 2006------Touched.

August 7, 2006------Touched.

September 7, 2006---Touched.

September 7, 2006---Approved.

September 8, 2006---Touched.

September 11, 2006--Receive NOA2.

October 12, 2006-----Left NVC.

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Try posting here in this forum too. There are some super knowledgeable people there.

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.php?showforum=113

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met online November 18, 2004 (my mother's birthday)

first visit February 7, 2005

filed I-129F 3/2005

receipt confirmed 4/29/05

USCIS approval 12/5/05

received P3 3/2006

received P4 6/2006

interview 8/28/06

interview failed with white slip

married November 6, 2006

fourth visit March 2007

filed I-130 for CR1 July 12, 2007

NOA1 received July 26, 2007

fifth visit October 28, 2007

1st wedding anniversary November 6, 2007

NOA2 received March 8, 2008

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Hey Chilton,

My fiance Bala, and I also are going thru the exact same thing you are. Our petition was sent back to the states in July after Bala had his second interview. The reason was same as yours and we also had lots of proofs of which they were not interested in seeing.

All I can tell you is that I contacted a lawyer, and we are expecting to recive a NOID (Notice of Intent to Deny ) letter which I have heard can take anywhere from a few months to even a year or longer. So I would suggest contacting an attorney for at least some advice on how to proceed. I do know of one other petitioner who didnt reply to her NOID letter, instead she opted to marry and now they are in a mess of trouble.

Apparently the way I understand it, is that if you dont respond to the NOID letter then they will deny you and it can be seen as fraud, which we all know is not good.

You are welcome to PM me and I can give you some more information that I have received on this situation.

Best of luck to you and yours!!!

Vicki/bala


10/2002 Met in yahoo chat

10/2004 Romance blossoms

04/2005 Went to india, spent two wonderful weeks together

06/11/05 Sent petition

06/22/05 1st NOA received

09/12/05 2nd NOA received

11/15/05 Interview: request for additional information from me.

11/30/05 Got notice that we were Placed on Administrative Processing

03/04/06 Going to visit with my boo!

04/08/06 Back home (sigh) back to waiting again.

06/15/06 7 months on AP (will this ever end?)

07/06/06 called for second interview (it was a nightmare)

07/14/06 learned our petition was sent back

07/15/06 ready to carry on the fight!!!!

10/17/06 petition is back at USCIS

God determines who walks into your life....it's up to you to decide who you let walk away,

who you let stay, and who you refuse to let go.

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Hey Chilton,

My fiance Bala, and I also are going thru the exact same thing you are. Our petition was sent back to the states in July after Bala had his second interview. The reason was same as yours and we also had lots of proofs of which they were not interested in seeing.

All I can tell you is that I contacted a lawyer, and we are expecting to recive a NOID (Notice of Intent to Deny ) letter which I have heard can take anywhere from a few months to even a year or longer. So I would suggest contacting an attorney for at least some advice on how to proceed. I do know of one other petitioner who didnt reply to her NOID letter, instead she opted to marry and now they are in a mess of trouble.

Apparently the way I understand it, is that if you dont respond to the NOID letter then they will deny you and it can be seen as fraud, which we all know is not good.

You are welcome to PM me and I can give you some more information that I have received on this situation.

Best of luck to you and yours!!!

Vicki/bala

I'll do just that....I like your signature ;)


met online November 18, 2004 (my mother's birthday)

first visit February 7, 2005

filed I-129F 3/2005

receipt confirmed 4/29/05

USCIS approval 12/5/05

received P3 3/2006

received P4 6/2006

interview 8/28/06

interview failed with white slip

married November 6, 2006

fourth visit March 2007

filed I-130 for CR1 July 12, 2007

NOA1 received July 26, 2007

fifth visit October 28, 2007

1st wedding anniversary November 6, 2007

NOA2 received March 8, 2008

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I can't help you with your situation, but I found this:

9 FAM 41.81 N6.5 Marriage Bona Fides

(CT:VISA-756; 07-27-2005)

a. If a consular officer finds that the fiance(e) or marital relationship is not bona fide but is a sham entered into solely for immigration benefits, post should return the K-1 or K-3 petition with a recommendation for revocation to the national visa center (NVC) under cover of a memorandum detailing the specific, objective facts giving rise to the posts conclusion.

b. All Immigrant and K-1/K-3 Visa revocation cases are to be returned to the following address:

National Visa Center 32 Rochester Ave. Portsmouth, NH 03801 Attn: Fraud Prevention Manager

http://foia.state.gov/masterdocs/09fam/0941081N.pdf

So now at least you know where the case is going.


I only offer advice - not even legal. Just the plain and simple kind.

Timeline (incompleta)

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I can't help you with your situation, but I found this:
9 FAM 41.81 N6.5 Marriage Bona Fides

(CT:VISA-756; 07-27-2005)

a. If a consular officer finds that the fiance(e) or marital relationship is not bona fide but is a sham entered into solely for immigration benefits, post should return the K-1 or K-3 petition with a recommendation for revocation to the national visa center (NVC) under cover of a memorandum detailing the specific, objective facts giving rise to the posts conclusion.

b. All Immigrant and K-1/K-3 Visa revocation cases are to be returned to the following address:

National Visa Center 32 Rochester Ave. Portsmouth, NH 03801 Attn: Fraud Prevention Manager

http://foia.state.gov/masterdocs/09fam/0941081N.pdf

So now at least you know where the case is going.

Thank youuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!! At least I will be able to find out on what they based their decision. Thank youuuuuuuuu


met online November 18, 2004 (my mother's birthday)

first visit February 7, 2005

filed I-129F 3/2005

receipt confirmed 4/29/05

USCIS approval 12/5/05

received P3 3/2006

received P4 6/2006

interview 8/28/06

interview failed with white slip

married November 6, 2006

fourth visit March 2007

filed I-130 for CR1 July 12, 2007

NOA1 received July 26, 2007

fifth visit October 28, 2007

1st wedding anniversary November 6, 2007

NOA2 received March 8, 2008

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I am very sorry that both Chilten and Vicki & Bala are going through this. I agree that a lawyer is a good place to start. Also, if they ignored or refused to look at evidence that you had, I suspect that this will help your appeal.

My fiance and I certainly do not expect such a problem. But we have already discussed our Plan B. We would probably both emigrate to a country where we are both welcome. While I would hate to leave the US, being with her is what is most important.

Good luck on your journey.

Tom


Thank for for updating your timeline. (My Assistant, then edit/add my timeline.)
K1

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Thank youuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!! At least I will be able to find out on what they based their decision. Thank youuuuuuuuu

something to think about.. I have read along the way that during the interview process, the officer can (should) not deny based on information that has already been found acceptable at the service centre level. A visa is denied based on evidence previously unknown. Eg, problem with the medical, affidavid of support, or information given while answering questions. I am wondering if they were not interested in your fiance's evidence on hand as the decision made was based on her answers to questions at the interview. Did she tell you much about this?? It might give you a better idea of what needs to be addressed?

William33 may know more...


2006

April 14 - sent I-129F to Vermont

April 25 - NOA1

May, June, July lost to IMBRA and RFE's

Aug 22 - NOA2

Sept 25 - interview date OCTOBER 13th

Oct 26 - arrived at JFK - work authorized

Nov 21 - apply SSN, received Nov 29

Dec 16 - marriage license

2007

Jan 05 - wedding

Jan 30 - AOS begins

AOS

Feb 07 - NOA1 ,check cashed

Feb 28 - notice I-485 sent to CSC

Mar 10 - Biometrics

Apr 16 - surprise RFE arrives..they lost my medical. New medical returned, Apr 23

Jun 1st - RFE ..more medical BS ( go back for TB skin test)

Jun 28 - CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED!!!

July 06- Green card arrives.

LIFTING CONDITIONS 2009

June 12 - mailed package

June 15 - check cashed

June 19 - NOA extension letter ( card expires June 26th)

July 03 - Biometrics notice

July 14 - Biometrics appointment

OCT 29 - CARD PRODUCTION ORDERED!!!

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